Renix Eagle?

[89 MJ]

We were looking under the hood of my Eagle and saw the Renix diagnostic ports. Does anyone here know anything about these? Would my REM work in it? I wound guess that it would, but I have no clue why the port is there. 

[eaglescout526]

Those are the same ports I have on Chunk. I have no idea if the ECUs can even be read anymore. They are probably more lost to time than Renix is. There’s nothing about such on the Eagle forums? 

[89 MJ]

42 minutes ago, eaglescout526 said:

Those are the same ports I have on Chunk. I have no idea if the ECUs can even be read anymore. They are probably more lost to time than Renix is. There’s nothing about such on the Eagle forums? 

I haven’t seen anything, but I haven’t done a ton of checking. 

[jdog]

@cruiser54

Might know

[eaglescout526]

I’ll probably read up the XJ FSM tonight and see what it says about such. 

[Minuit]

Might be able to read something with an MT2500 and the right cartridge. The data won't be anything exciting.

[Strokermjcomanche]

Normally that would be a DRB hook up . I would try your rem and see what it does. May not be 100% exact, but it'll probably still give you readings

[Parei_doll_ia]

It might pick up some data, but it could also be formatted differently from the Renix and the REM won't know what it's saying. The connector is probably a parts bin connector that AMC put on everything. Isn't the Eagle a computer controlled carb?

[89 MJ]

33 minutes ago, keeponjeepinon said:

Isn't the Eagle a computer controlled carb?

I believe it to be just a regular carb. 
 

Thanks for the help everyone!

[Dzimm]

Maybe @NickInTimeFilms would have some input on this?  He's probably done more research on the Renix system than anyone else.

 

[Ωhm]

Don't know about RENIX, but what about the transmission (TCU) stuff? Transfer case (TC) stuff?

[1989commanche]

I’m pretty sure that’s where the rem adapter plugs in. The Jeep adapter for my MT-2500 plugs in there. I have the adapter but not the correct cartridge for Jeep. Just old Ford stuff. 

[89 MJ]

1 hour ago, Ωhm said:

Don't know about RENIX, but what about the transmission (TCU) stuff? Transfer case (TC) stuff?

I never considered that. Although, I’m not sure what kind of readings it would get about either. 

[eaglescout526]

1 hour ago, 1989commanche said:

Just old Ford stuff. 

See this is what I think when I see 84-86 2.5L carb stuff. AMC used Fords duraspark module to fire the coil and spark the plugs. I’m almost wondering if it’s just old Ford stuff. 

[89 MJ]

1 hour ago, eaglescout526 said:

See this is what I think when I see 84-86 2.5L carb stuff. AMC used Fords duraspark module to fire the coil and spark the plugs. I’m almost wondering if it’s just old Ford stuff. 

I know the current ignition system on the Eagle is FoMoCo (getting replaced with an HEI) and I will be installing a Motorcraft carb that is considered an upgrade. 

[scaleless]

The Renix computer outputs a serial bitstream that you can read all about on NickInTime's website.  Given the data is significantly different between the 4.0 and 2.5 and the pinout of the diagnostic connector is even different, I very much doubt this application shares any similarities to either.  It's simply a universal diagnostic connector that AMC used likely without any standardization.

[89 MJ]

7 hours ago, scaleless said:

The Renix computer outputs a serial bitstream that you can read all about on NickInTime's website.  Given the data is significantly different between the 4.0 and 2.5 and the pinout of the diagnostic connector is even different, I very much doubt this application shares any similarities to either.  It's simply a universal diagnostic connector that AMC used likely without any standardization.

Gotcha. I wasn’t sure if it was a Renix only port. 

[cruiser54]

It's for the ET501 tester to plug in. Pretty much worthless as a diagnostic tool. 

 

Or maybe the MS1700 tool. Equally useless. 

[89 MJ]

50 minutes ago, cruiser54 said:

It's for the ET501 tester to plug in. Pretty much worthless as a diagnostic tool. 

 

Or maybe the MS1700 tool. Equally useless. 

Alright. I will just ignore the ports then. 

[NickInTimeFilms]

On 6/18/2021 at 5:10 PM, Dzimm said:

Maybe @NickInTimeFilms would have some input on this?  He's probably done more research on the Renix system than anyone else.

 

I can't comment on the specifics of the eagle tech, but I know it says Jeep/Eagle all over my DRB II and MS1700 Cartridges. If there IS any amount of data stream coming out of there, I'd think there would be a good chance AMC at least kept that pin the same on the 15 pin block. 

One of these days when I can find a proper test subject, I'd love to dig into the Eagle and Alliance streams to see what is actually in there. Or if I can ever find out how to download the info directly from these cartridges then I could see what can truly be compatible. If it doesn't have an electronic fuel injection system on it, I wouldn't count on anything fun though.

[omega_rugal]

if there´s no Renix computer on the Eagle, then nothing can come out of that port

[89 MJ]

9 minutes ago, omega_rugal said:

if there´s no Renix computer on the Eagle, then nothing can come out of that port

This is kinda what I figured, I just didn’t know why it was there. 
 

 

7 hours ago, NickInTimeFilms said:

I can't comment on the specifics of the eagle tech, but I know it says Jeep/Eagle all over my DRB II and MS1700 Cartridges. If there IS any amount of data stream coming out of there, I'd think there would be a good chance AMC at least kept that pin the same on the 15 pin block. 

One of these days when I can find a proper test subject, I'd love to dig into the Eagle and Alliance streams to see what is actually in there. Or if I can ever find out how to download the info directly from these cartridges then I could see what can truly be compatible. If it doesn't have an electronic fuel injection system on it, I wouldn't count on anything fun though.

If you are ever up in WI, you could play with mine. 

[cruiser54]

There is a fuel feedback system on that Eagle. It has it's own little computer. 

[eaglescout526]

I learned that the reader for the FFS is a pretty penny and tough to find. 

[cruiser54]

I might have one.