Interior colors/paint

[eaglescout526]

Currently working on getting matching colors for 84-85 XJ's. Apparently the tans don't match the Almond interior color of Chunk, so I am on the hunt. 

[schardein]

This is a valuable resource thread with lots of good info.  I don't want to clutter it up, but I do have a question.  

Has anybody tried the 15013 Landau Black?  

What I'm really curious about is the difference between that and 15233 Gloss Black and 15243 Satin Black? Is it just the gloss level, with Landau Black being basically "flat"?

[eaglescout526]

2 minutes ago, schardein said:

This is a valuable resource thread with lots of good info.  I don't want to clutter it up, but I do have a question.  

Has anybody tried the 15013 Landau Black?  

What I'm really curious about is the difference between that and 15233 Gloss Black and 15243 Satin Black? Is it just the gloss level, with Landau Black being basically "flat"?

I have tried landau black with great results. If anything that’s one of the few colors that is exact vs the others that I have listed that “come close” but are satisfactory. I have even used the landau black on outside parts and pieces and they have held up in the AZ sun and heat. But I want to say that the landau is like a semi gloss

[Minuit]

Landau Black is, as I've heard, a near perfect match to the factory black interior.

[schardein]

OK great, thanks for the feedback gents.

[89 MJ]

Many body shop supply stores are able to look in their books to find the exact mixing ratios for the factory colors. Ask me how I know.

[kriswinner]

It wasn't mentioned specifically, but is 1988 Tan the same as 1987 Tan?

 

From Minuit's "post from the future", it sounds like...

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I recommend SEM 15323 Palomino to replicate 1987 Tan

 

Thanks!

KW

[eaglescout526]

21 minutes ago, kriswinner said:

It wasn't mentioned specifically, but is 1988 Tan the same as 1987 Tan?

 

From Minuit's "post from the future", it sounds like...

 

Thanks!

KW

It varies. If it’s a late model 87 it probably will be closer to 88. If it’s an early it probably will be closer to that of 86 and prior. 87 is that middle ground year where AMC was doing changes and improvements to both the XJ and MJ. 
 

I probably need to update the top post to reflect this discretion. 

[kriswinner]

2 hours ago, saveevryjp1998 said:

I would take off a kick panel and compare it to the backside of whatever your trying to match up.

 

Good idea.  I didn't realize there were so many possibilities.

 

Based on the history of my truck, the panels should be all original from the factory.  I think I know someone with an SEM color guide.  I'll see if I can borrow it. 

 

For an 88 with original panels, it seems like I'm one of 2 SEM colors:  Palomino or Santa Fe

[kriswinner]

1988 Tan:  Palomino (15323) confirmed.

 

[motownXJdad]

On 4/3/2020 at 10:45 PM, Minuit said:

We're approaching critical mass for another "what Minuit knows" writeup here, I think. My SEM Camel test panel is a near perfect match for the vinyl.

 

 

I've ordered some '84, '85, and '86 brochures to hopefully get a lock on the interior colors that were offered in the wild west AMC years.

 

EDIT FROM THE FUTURE: 1987 Tan, the color on the right, is its own color that is significantly lighter than 1986 Honey, the color on the left. "Honey", the darker shade in this picture, was available up to 1986. This color was replaced in 1987 with "Tan" and again in 1989 with "Sand" which changed to "Dark Sand" at some point thereafter. While the fabric on the "1987 Tan" seat is heavily faded, the vinyl is virtually identical to a NOS seat cover that has been in the package since day one. Knowing this, I recommend SEM 15323 Palomino to replicate 1987 Tan, and SEM  15173 Camel to replicate 1986 Honey. Another poster in this thread has mentioned SEM 15123 Santa Fe as being a good match for the Sand color - I haven't sprayed a test panel myself but I believe their judgment. At this point, I do not know a good color match for the early "Almond" color offered on 1984 and possibly 1985 XJs. It looks quite close to the later Sand color, but I don't have any Sand color parts on hand right now to compare.

So you all have just cleaned these parts obviously very well, and then directly sprayed the SEM color of choice onto the peices? , no primer before the paint color? who on this thread has gone from grey to camel or palomino?

[eaglescout526]

1 hour ago, motownXJdad said:

So you all have just cleaned these parts obviously very well, and then directly sprayed the SEM color of choice onto the peices? , no primer before the paint color? who on this thread has gone from grey to camel or palomino?

As long as you clean the parts you are painting very well, you should have no issues with the paint adhering to the part. You can use primer if you’d like but I myself have sprayed all the parts after a good cleaning with excellent results. Now I haven’t painted any grey parts to another color but I’d imagine they would transfer well with a few coats. The bigger challenge is going from a dark color to a light color. I took two cordovan parts and painted them to match my XJ almond interior. Took several coats of paint and a few days to get the darker color to disappear. 

[89 MJ]

I took a grey dash and made it dark blue. I did 2 light coats, 1 medium coat, and 2 heavy coats. You can’t tell it hasn’t always been blue and it has been that way for a year now. 

[motownXJdad]

5 hours ago, 89 MJ said:

I took a grey dash and made it dark blue. I did 2 light coats, 1 medium coat, and 2 heavy coats. You can’t tell it hasn’t always been blue and it has been that way for a year now. 

 

11 hours ago, eaglescout526 said:

As long as you clean the parts you are painting very well, you should have no issues with the paint adhering to the part. You can use primer if you’d like but I myself have sprayed all the parts after a good cleaning with excellent results. Now I haven’t painted any grey parts to another color but I’d imagine they would transfer well with a few coats. The bigger challenge is going from a dark color to a light color. I took two cordovan parts and painted them to match my XJ almond interior. Took several coats of paint and a few days to get the darker color to disappear. 

thanks guys! I'm doing a color change on my interior, going from grey to the light tan\Palomino color, ive got a dash, A pillar pieces, kick panels and a center console, ill just be Dying the B pillars plastics so hopefully it will cover well. I'm actually gonna do all my swap parts which are all from different MJs\XJsbso they all match.👍 this is a great thread very helpful, thanks for the info

[jeff351]

adding my 2 cents. SEM 15303 Graphite is a really close match for Agate gray interior in the later XJs. 

[Anthi4078]

Hey did anyone ever find another paint for the medium blue interior? The rustoleum Nantucket blue seems to have been discontinued 

[eaglescout526]

1 hour ago, Anthi4078 said:

Hey did anyone ever find another paint for the medium blue interior? The rustoleum Nantucket blue seems to have been discontinued 

Ouch....thanks for that tidbit. You might have to experiment here. 

[eaglescout526]

I updated this thread to show the latest match for the headlight bezels with the darker silver accent trim.

[acfortier]

Searched the thread, but didn't see anything on prep/adhesion promoters. If I were to paint any of the interior plastic trim pieces, which product would you use?

 

[eaglescout526]

I just did soap and water to clean the parts and then painted. Everything has held up fine with no adhesion promoter or anything. Some will say prep the hell out of it, others will say just a clean surface will do the trick without spending the extra money. 

[Gjeep]

There is a company I recently found called -- Paint Scratch -- that will mix up OEM factory interior specific paint/ paint colors. Paint that plays well with plastic surfaces. I'm currently building another XJ for the final kid and this one is a '99 XJ with the camel (tan) interior. Absolutely nothing SEM had available was close. In refinishing the interior panels, I can tell you this paint is just about spot-on as it's the actual Jeep K5/RK5 paint code. I still use SEM adhesion promoter and a clear for protection. Really happy with their product. Prices available on their website, but don't recall it being much more than SEM.