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Oh I would also like to add that the labels for this conversion are still very much available at one dealer. I’ll probably order some just to have on hand for those of you who want to add that “dealer” conversion authenticity rather than shade tree/non dealer mechanic conversion done.

This 48k-Mile 1985 Jeep Cherokee For Sale on Bring a Trailer (caranddriver.com) Its got System Sentry!! Some lucky soul is going to have a well preserved XJ.

Thanks! Had I known this existed when I was installing my AC, this wouldve been posted right away.

Extreme long shot but I know you guys in the east coast seem to have some older XJs floating around but I am on the hunt for a Shock Absorber leveling kit/system. I’ll post a pic of the diagram when I get home but basically the system consists of a compressor and wiring to air up the shocks. I do not know how it works right now but I’ll figure it out in the FSM. Model years it seems to have been for 84-86 XJs but I suspect it fits the AMC Eagle as well since the model years for the set up is 80-88(Eagles run). Full graphic: The compressor I am after:

Lol no. That’s too much work for one weekend.

Just to give y’all a preview of what the new look is gonna be: So take these two, minus the sport bar and hidden winch and that’s probably what I’m gonna end up with this weekend. Along with a few other things in store. Plus new garage door on Tuesday!

This post is about the OP producing new mudflaps. He has not listed these for sale yet.

I would imagine at the time this came out, R12 was quickly disappearing fast and so there probably wasn’t any time to study and figure out the major differences between the two refrigerants. Now that it’s been around for 20+ years, research probably has been done since then to figure these things out about proper R134a systems. Just a thought. I’m also running probably what is 35 year old hoses and they’re holding on pretty fine, only the O-rings have been updated to the R134a compliant.

*X1 -YY APA MONOTONE PAINT PACKAGE CBA BENCH SEAT - STRAIGHT BK CGX Head Restraints-Outboard Seating, RR DCB Transmission - 4-Speed Manual EPD ENGINE - 2.5L I4 TBI GAS GSC MIRROR - RIGHT BLACK HCC HEATER W/UPR LEVEL VENTIL - TYPE II LAP FUEL ECONOMY SHIFT INDICATOR LIGHT LMA HALOGEN HEADLAMPS MBJ Bumper - Front, Black MDA FRT LICENSE PLATE ATTACH REQUIRED NAE EMISS CONTROL TESTING &&&&&&&& LABEL PXB QXB SBA POWER STEERING TBG SPARE TIRE - COMPACT WMC BASE WHEEL DRESS - UP (INCLS TRIM RING) Build date 9/8/86 Body code TL61 Sold by SHOWCASE JEEP EAGLE, MODESTO CA

NO: 24-01-95 Rev. A SUBJECT: R-12 to R-134a A/C Adaptation Service Procedure DATE: Mar. 3, 1995 THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 24-01-95 EFFECTIVE DATE MAR. 3, 1995 WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. THIS IS A COMPLETE REVISION THAT ADDS MODELS, PARTS AND PROCEDURES. THIS PROCEDURE SHOULD ONLY BE PERFORMED ON VEHICLES TO MAINTAIN AIR CONDITIONING OPERATION WHEN R-12 REFRIGERANT IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. COOLING PERFORMANCE MAY BE LESS THAN ORIGINAL SYSTEM DEPENDENT ON OPERATING CONDITIONS AND ALSO MAY VARY BETWEEN VEHICLE MODELS. NOTES: This bulletin excludes (AB) vehicles built after 8/1/93 and (XJ/YJ) vehicles built after 1/1/94. These vehicles are equipped with R-134a refrigerant. 1989-1991 (AD) non-intercooled diesel engine equipped vehicles are not available for adaptation. 1990-1991 (AQ) vehicles equipped with 2.2L engines are not available for adaptation. 1987-1992 (AS) vehicles equipped with 3.0L/3.3L engines and front and rear A/C may exhibit high system pressures and panel outlet temperature variations when operated in high ambients after being adapted to R-134a. These vehicles may require an engine cooling system upgrade package. DISCUSSION: This bulletin involves adapting vehicles with R-12 refrigerant A/C systems to operate using R-134a. NOTE: WHEN SERVICING THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM, FOLLOW ALL CAUTIONS AND WARNINGS AS OUTLINED IN THE APPROPRIATE SERVICE MANUAL PROCEDURE: Review Safety Precautions and warnings before proceeding with this procedure. Air temperature of the test area and inside the vehicle must be 70° F (21°C) minimum for this test. INITIAL SYSTEM OPERATION AND PREPARATION NOTE: WHEN REPLACING ANY COMPONENTS AND/OR OPENING ANY LINE FITTINGS, NEW R-134a COMPATIBLE SEALS OR O-RINGS MUST BE INSTALLED Review the Component Chart and installation notes attached to determine the parts required for the particular vehicle being adapted. Passenger Car Figure 1, Figure 2, Figure 3, Figure 4, Figure 5, Figure 6, Figure 7 Minivan Figure 8, Figure 9, Figure 10, Figure 11 Dodge Truck Figure 12, Figure 13, Figure 14, Figure 15, Figure 16, Figure 17, Figure 18 Jeep Figure 19, Figure 20 R-134a Adaptation Component Chart - Passenger Car Compressor Drive Belt Chart (Figure 21) R-134a Charge Port Adapter Chart (Figure 22) R-134a Adaptation Label P/N 4762869 (Figure 23) R-134a Performance Chart (Figure 24, Figure 25, Figure 26, Figure 27) If the system is functioning properly, proceed to step A3. If the system is not functioning, determine the cause. If the system has no charge, charge the system to 50 psi with R-12 refrigerant. Identify any leaks and/or failed components. If the system is still not functioning, proceed to Step A4. Operate the A/C system at engine idle speed for 15 minutes on high blower speed and outside air mode to maximize the oil in the compressor. Evacuate the system using an approved recycling/recovery station. Repair or replace any failed components with the exception of the compressor. CONVERSION PROCEDURE NOTE: IF THE COMPRESSOR HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY REPLACED WITH A 709CA OR 709CC SERIES COMPRESSOR, IT WILL NOT HAVE TO BE REPLACED UNLESS IT HAS FAILED. IT CAN BE IDENTIFIED BY THE CASTING NUMBERS "709CA" OR "709CC" LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE SUCTION AND DISCHARGE PORTS. NOTE: SPECIAL EFFORT MUST BE USED TO KEEP ALL R-134a SYSTEM COMPONENTS CAPPED TO PREVENT MOISTURE FROM ENTERING THE A/C SYSTEM OIL. MOISTURE IN THE OIL IS VERY DIFFICULT TO REMOVE AND WILL CAUSE A RELIABILITY PROBLEM WITH THE COMPRESSOR. NOTE: REMOVE THE SCHRADER VALVE CORE FROM ALL R-12 SERVICE PORTS EXCEPT WHEN USING STRAIGHT R-134a ADAPTERS. FAILING TO DO SO WILL PREVENT THE SYSTEM FROM BEING EVACUATED OF FILLED WITH REFRIGERANT. NOTE: CAP OFF ANY REMAINING R-12 PORTS USING SEAL CAP P/N 4773153 (3/8-24 THD) OR P/N 4773154 (7/16-20 THD.). NOTE: THE A/C SYSTEM SIGHT IS NOT VALID FOR DETERMINING THE CORRECT R-134a CHARGE LEVEL ON A ADAPTED SYSTEM. THIS IS DUE TO THE RESIDUAL MINERAL OIL LEFT IN THE SYSTEM. IT IS HELD IN SUSPENSION AND DOES NOT MIX WITH R-134a REFRIGERANT. IT WILL APPEAR AS A WHITE "MILKY" STREAM OF REFRIGERANT THROUGH THE SIGHT GLASS. NOTE: THE CLEAR MYLAR OVERLAY MUST BE INSTALLED OVER THE NEW LABEL. Remove the compressor and drain the mineral oil. Inspect oil for any unusual metal content. If a new compressor is a required adaptation part or is being replaced because it is a failed pert, the mineral oil must be drained from the new compressor. In this case it will not be necessary to drain the oil from the old compressor. With the compressor off the vehicle, refill with new R-134a refrigerant oil in the amount called out in the Adaptation Component Chart. Remove and discard the filter/drier/accumulator. Replace the HPRV (High Pressure Relief Valve) with the specified R-134a part listed in the Adaptation Component Chart. Refer to the appropriate Service Manual for location. In some applications the HPRV is located on the filter/drier. The HPRV on the new filter/drier must be replaced with the new R-134a HPRV. Replace the HPCO (High Pressure Cutout switch). Refer to the appropriate Service Manual for location. For Vehicles without HPCO switches, install a switch and wiring overlay in the system on the high pressure R-134a adapter switch tee as specified in the Adaptation Component Chart. For SJ/XJ/YJ vehicles, the LPCO (Low Pressure Cutout Switch) is located on the filter/drier and must be replaced with a dual function HPCO/LPCO switch as specified in the Adaptation Component Chart. Install the filter/drier or accumulator using new R-134a compatible gaskets or o-rings. Install the compressor on the vehicle using the new R-134a compatible gaskets or o-rings. Clean old R-12 service ports with a steel brush. Review the R-134a adapter choices as identified in the Adaptation Component Chart. Refer to the R-134a Charge Port Adapter chart and select the appropriate port adapter which allows for sufficient clearance in the engine compartment to attach R-134a service equipment couplings and/or HPCO switches. Also check for proper clearance between the hood and the R-134a adapter/switch. Evacuate the system for a minimum of 45 minutes at 26 in. Hg or greater. Charge the system with R-134a with the amount called out in the adaptation Component Chart. Fill in the required blue R-134a A/C adaptation label, P/N 4762869, using a typewriter or ball point pen. See label illustration for details. If possible, place the new label over the existing R-12 label. If the new label does not completely cover the existing label remove the old label before installing the revised label. If the A/C information is part of a general vehicle information label, cut out only that part that pertains to the A/C system. Check the system for leaks with approved R134a equipment that meets Chrysler and SAE J1627 specifications. PERFORMANCE TEST PROCEDURE Connect a tachometer and A/C manifold gauge set. Set control to A/C, PANEL, and RECIRC or MAX A/C, with the temperature control at "full cool" and blower on "high". Start engine and hold at 1,000 RPM with A/C clutch engaged. Engine should be at normal operating temperature and all doors and windows closed. Insert a thermometer in the left center A/C outlet and operate the engine for five minutes. The A/C clutch may cycle depending on ambient conditions. With the A/C clutch engaged, compare the discharge air temperature to the A/C performance temperature chart provided. If the discharge air temperature or discharge and suction pressure are not within the specified range, refer to the diagnostic procedure in the appropriate Service Manual. Renix years: HO Years:

I absolutely can!

So I found this service bulletin: NO: 24-01-95 Rev. A SUBJECT: R-12 to R-134a A/C Adaptation Service Procedure DATE: Mar. 3, 1995 THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 24-01-95 EFFECTIVE DATE MAR. 3, 1995 WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. THIS IS A COMPLETE REVISION THAT ADDS MODELS, PARTS AND PROCEDURES. THIS PROCEDURE SHOULD ONLY BE PERFORMED ON VEHICLES TO MAINTAIN AIR CONDITIONING OPERATION WHEN R-12 REFRIGERANT IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. COOLING PERFORMANCE MAY BE LESS THAN ORIGINAL SYSTEM DEPENDENT ON OPERATING CONDITIONS AND ALSO MAY VARY BETWEEN VEHICLE MODELS. NOTES: This bulletin excludes (AB) vehicles built after 8/1/93 and (XJ/YJ) vehicles built after 1/1/94. These vehicles are equipped with R-134a refrigerant. 1989-1991 (AD) non-intercooled diesel engine equipped vehicles are not available for adaptation. 1990-1991 (AQ) vehicles equipped with 2.2L engines are not available for adaptation. 1987-1992 (AS) vehicles equipped with 3.0L/3.3L engines and front and rear A/C may exhibit high system pressures and panel outlet temperature variations when operated in high ambients after being adapted to R-134a. These vehicles may require an engine cooling system upgrade package. DISCUSSION: This bulletin involves adapting vehicles with R-12 refrigerant A/C systems to operate using R-134a. NOTE: WHEN SERVICING THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM, FOLLOW ALL CAUTIONS AND WARNINGS AS OUTLINED IN THE APPROPRIATE SERVICE MANUAL PROCEDURE: Review Safety Precautions and warnings before proceeding with this procedure. Air temperature of the test area and inside the vehicle must be 70° F (21°C) minimum for this test. INITIAL SYSTEM OPERATION AND PREPARATION NOTE: WHEN REPLACING ANY COMPONENTS AND/OR OPENING ANY LINE FITTINGS, NEW R-134a COMPATIBLE SEALS OR O-RINGS MUST BE INSTALLED Review the Component Chart and installation notes attached to determine the parts required for the particular vehicle being adapted. Passenger Car Figure 1, Figure 2, Figure 3, Figure 4, Figure 5, Figure 6, Figure 7 Minivan Figure 8, Figure 9, Figure 10, Figure 11 Dodge Truck Figure 12, Figure 13, Figure 14, Figure 15, Figure 16, Figure 17, Figure 18 Jeep Figure 19, Figure 20 R-134a Adaptation Component Chart - Passenger Car Compressor Drive Belt Chart (Figure 21) R-134a Charge Port Adapter Chart (Figure 22) R-134a Adaptation Label P/N 4762869 (Figure 23) R-134a Performance Chart (Figure 24, Figure 25, Figure 26, Figure 27) If the system is functioning properly, proceed to step A3. If the system is not functioning, determine the cause. If the system has no charge, charge the system to 50 psi with R-12 refrigerant. Identify any leaks and/or failed components. If the system is still not functioning, proceed to Step A4. Operate the A/C system at engine idle speed for 15 minutes on high blower speed and outside air mode to maximize the oil in the compressor. Evacuate the system using an approved recycling/recovery station. Repair or replace any failed components with the exception of the compressor. CONVERSION PROCEDURE NOTE: IF THE COMPRESSOR HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY REPLACED WITH A 709CA OR 709CC SERIES COMPRESSOR, IT WILL NOT HAVE TO BE REPLACED UNLESS IT HAS FAILED. IT CAN BE IDENTIFIED BY THE CASTING NUMBERS "709CA" OR "709CC" LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE SUCTION AND DISCHARGE PORTS. NOTE: SPECIAL EFFORT MUST BE USED TO KEEP ALL R-134a SYSTEM COMPONENTS CAPPED TO PREVENT MOISTURE FROM ENTERING THE A/C SYSTEM OIL. MOISTURE IN THE OIL IS VERY DIFFICULT TO REMOVE AND WILL CAUSE A RELIABILITY PROBLEM WITH THE COMPRESSOR. NOTE: REMOVE THE SCHRADER VALVE CORE FROM ALL R-12 SERVICE PORTS EXCEPT WHEN USING STRAIGHT R-134a ADAPTERS. FAILING TO DO SO WILL PREVENT THE SYSTEM FROM BEING EVACUATED OF FILLED WITH REFRIGERANT. NOTE: CAP OFF ANY REMAINING R-12 PORTS USING SEAL CAP P/N 4773153 (3/8-24 THD) OR P/N 4773154 (7/16-20 THD.). NOTE: THE A/C SYSTEM SIGHT IS NOT VALID FOR DETERMINING THE CORRECT R-134a CHARGE LEVEL ON A ADAPTED SYSTEM. THIS IS DUE TO THE RESIDUAL MINERAL OIL LEFT IN THE SYSTEM. IT IS HELD IN SUSPENSION AND DOES NOT MIX WITH R-134a REFRIGERANT. IT WILL APPEAR AS A WHITE "MILKY" STREAM OF REFRIGERANT THROUGH THE SIGHT GLASS. NOTE: THE CLEAR MYLAR OVERLAY MUST BE INSTALLED OVER THE NEW LABEL. Remove the compressor and drain the mineral oil. Inspect oil for any unusual metal content. If a new compressor is a required adaptation part or is being replaced because it is a failed pert, the mineral oil must be drained from the new compressor. In this case it will not be necessary to drain the oil from the old compressor. With the compressor off the vehicle, refill with new R-134a refrigerant oil in the amount called out in the Adaptation Component Chart. Remove and discard the filter/drier/accumulator. Replace the HPRV (High Pressure Relief Valve) with the specified R-134a part listed in the Adaptation Component Chart. Refer to the appropriate Service Manual for location. In some applications the HPRV is located on the filter/drier. The HPRV on the new filter/drier must be replaced with the new R-134a HPRV. Replace the HPCO (High Pressure Cutout switch). Refer to the appropriate Service Manual for location. For Vehicles without HPCO switches, install a switch and wiring overlay in the system on the high pressure R-134a adapter switch tee as specified in the Adaptation Component Chart. For SJ/XJ/YJ vehicles, the LPCO (Low Pressure Cutout Switch) is located on the filter/drier and must be replaced with a dual function HPCO/LPCO switch as specified in the Adaptation Component Chart. Install the filter/drier or accumulator using new R-134a compatible gaskets or o-rings. Install the compressor on the vehicle using the new R-134a compatible gaskets or o-rings. Clean old R-12 service ports with a steel brush. Review the R-134a adapter choices as identified in the Adaptation Component Chart. Refer to the R-134a Charge Port Adapter chart and select the appropriate port adapter which allows for sufficient clearance in the engine compartment to attach R-134a service equipment couplings and/or HPCO switches. Also check for proper clearance between the hood and the R-134a adapter/switch. Evacuate the system for a minimum of 45 minutes at 26 in. Hg or greater. Charge the system with R-134a with the amount called out in the adaptation Component Chart. Fill in the required blue R-134a A/C adaptation label, P/N 4762869, using a typewriter or ball point pen. See label illustration for details. If possible, place the new label over the existing R-12 label. If the new label does not completely cover the existing label remove the old label before installing the revised label. If the A/C information is part of a general vehicle information label, cut out only that part that pertains to the A/C system. Check the system for leaks with approved R134a equipment that meets Chrysler and SAE J1627 specifications. PERFORMANCE TEST PROCEDURE Connect a tachometer and A/C manifold gauge set. Set control to A/C, PANEL, and RECIRC or MAX A/C, with the temperature control at "full cool" and blower on "high". Start engine and hold at 1,000 RPM with A/C clutch engaged. Engine should be at normal operating temperature and all doors and windows closed. Insert a thermometer in the left center A/C outlet and operate the engine for five minutes. The A/C clutch may cycle depending on ambient conditions. With the A/C clutch engaged, compare the discharge air temperature to the A/C performance temperature chart provided. If the discharge air temperature or discharge and suction pressure are not within the specified range, refer to the diagnostic procedure in the appropriate Service Manual. Renix years: HO years:

I am pretty sure swapping the gauge itself may not work either. I thought the fuel gauge and the pot on the FSU were both calibrated to 0-88Ωhms?

I may have found an entire service bulletin from Chrysler on converting the R12-R134a in our MJs and XJs.

Oh yeah. I had this happen too. It’s been like that since I got my MJ and then I finally had to address it as the cable finally just seized. Definitely something to check if y’all are still running the original cables.

I mean what else is there to do when you’re a computer nerd who never left the basement? Lol. That sucks though. I had an issue once that kept happening where somehow someone kept getting my card info from the QT gas station. Haven’t given them business since.

Yeah I can say the same for a few others. It seems kuhmo wants to support the 15’s. But otherwise looking in the mopar tireworks, you can’t find much in our rims. Granted there’s quite a few options but hardly any are available.

Yeah it’s not a fun thing to suspect. And usually you won’t see a milky oil. I had the issue where oil was fine but most of the gasket failure was putting water into the combustion chambers. Hopefully the compression test will reveal something.

So I heard an interesting 45 last night. I’ll have to get the songs but the artist was Frankie Lymon. At first I thought the singer was a woman but it turns out he was a man, young man actually. The best way I can describe him is he was the Michael Jackson of his time(50’s). I swear he looks like the illegitimate child of Nat King Cole as they look very similar. Unfortunately he died of heroine overdose in ‘68. Ill edit this post with the songs we heard that sparked this tidbit

There was something in the FSM regarding this actually. I would have to find it unless someone beats me to it.

Probably the early ABS I think.

Like the speedo gear itself in the trans? That gear is supposed to be changed out when you go up in tire size.

Kinda sounds like a blown head gasket. I had that issue where it would idle fine (IE going into open loop mode) then it would go back into closed loop and it would suffocate itself from the coolant intake.

I always have my work do AC stuff for me. Now I’d really like to learn and do it all myself for when my family has issues that way I don’t have to play the vehicle shuffle with them.

No problem!