jdog Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Oh wise and knowledgeable CC folks I'm looking for options for lower control arms. I am unable to use GC arms for some strange reason, so what brand do you recommend. what is good and who do i stay away from? this is for a short arm. not looking for long arm yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I have JKS short arms for my XJ. I've been happy with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 why are you unable to use the WJ arms? did you trim the steel sleeve flush with the rubber bushing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZJeff Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I have Core 4X4 arms on mine. I had JKS on my last XJ. They both seem similar in overall quality. Whatever you do, make sure the arms come with RUBBER, not urethane, bushings, unless you want your fillings rattled anytime you drive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Pete M said: why are you unable to use the WJ arms? did you trim the steel sleeve flush with the rubber bushing? After getting the arms to install body side, the axle side would not line up, it would hit the mounting brackets of the lower control arm and keep it a half-inch from lining up. don't think the axle twisted cause the old one went right back in same as strokermjcomanche in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coheed Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I second Core4x4. Got a set of their Tier ones. The welds and powder coat of both of good quality for the price, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 41 minutes ago, jdog said: After getting the arms to install body side, the axle side would not line up, it would hit the mounting brackets of the lower control arm and keep it a half-inch from lining up. don't think the axle twisted cause the old one went right back in same as strokermjcomanche in But the ends of the WJ arms physically fit in both mounting points correct? Was it off the same amount on both sides or did you only try one side? Did you disconnect the track bar before doubt the control arm swap? How were you jacking up the axle? if your thinking of getting new control arms, Currie/Savvy and metal cloaks are my favorites. Very durable and very smooth both onroad and off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 rotate the axle. or trim a bit off the brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad R Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I am running savvy’s arms on my daily. I was hesitant with the aluminum arms but figured if it’s good enough for king of the hammers it’s good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 50 minutes ago, ghetdjc320 said: But the ends of the WJ arms physically fit in both mounting points correct? Was it off the same amount on both sides or did you only try one side? Did you disconnect the track bar before doubt the control arm swap? How were you jacking up the axle? if your thinking of getting new control arms, Currie/Savvy and metal cloaks are my favorites. Very durable and very smooth both onroad and off. yep both ends would fit, only tried one side, did not disconnect the track bar. and center of the axle thank you for the suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Pete M said: rotate the axle. or trim a bit off the brackets. couldn't rotate it the way to get em to line up also wasn' really wanting to grind on the axle bracket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Looks like the factory brackets would limit travel anyway unless you use a tube style control arm. I switched to artec brackets several years ago so I don’t have any originals to compare it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 yeah that's were i'm at so looking for tube style arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 a stockish truck, doing regular truck things, can run the WJ arms without incident. yes, it could contact when offroading in twisty trails and limit your droop. Don ran them for years just fine. I trimmed mine out of curiosity rather than need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 this is where it hits, not on the upper but the lower. not sure what they changed on the axles or why mine is different then majority. and i don't have a lift yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 that's not at ride height. that's at full droop and the bolt isn't in yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I change control arms on the ground at ride height, no jacks involved, if you’re only dealing with stock length. I’m also running WJ arms and they went in just fine, after trimming the internal bush sleeves of course. The WJ arms are good for ride comfort as well as tire clearance. If you’re planning on ever lifting much beyond 2” though you’ll want something longer than stock length. Good suggestions above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I promise it all worked out in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Pete M said: that's not at ride height. that's at full droop and the bolt isn't in yet. thats what mine looked like jacked up and off of the stands. but no matter how much i tried the bolt will not line up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 if it makes you feel any better, guys frequently struggle with reinstalling the stock arms too. is at least one lower arm in? or are they both out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 one arm was in, ratchet strap on drivers knuckle and jack under it just wouldn't line up, stock arm went right back in no issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I don't remember much of it any more, but going through my photos it appears I used a bottle jack to force the axle into position. it might have been less of an issue if I had the coil compressed a bit so the axle rotated just a hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdog Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Yep that's what the strap was for, still didn't go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rylee144 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I had to place a jack this way to get mine in, same control arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I used a broken leaf spring and a jack and jammed the leaf in a spot where it wouldn’t come loose but would help angle the axle back towards the cab with the jack. That’s usually how I get my control arms to go back and line up correctly. The passenger side is trickier to do that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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