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It honestly makes me vomit a little. I'm not opposed to progress and the changes brought forth by tech advancements, however you don't have to dress it up to look like a pig with lipstick.

 

Why can't we just get a regular cab no frills truck with a solid reliable drivetrain without heated and cooled steering wheels?

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I’ve got questions...
 

35s with room for 37s? Crab walk for extra maneuverability? Additional 6” of ground clearance at a push of a button? Lane change/passing technology? Loads of technology wrapped inside a huge vehicle that’s dripping in plastic?

 

Who’s the target audience here? I guess it’s cool but... :dunno:

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16 minutes ago, neohic said:

I’ve got questions...
 

35s with room for 37s? Crab walk for extra maneuverability? Additional 6” of ground clearance at a push of a button? Lane change/passing technology? Loads of technology wrapped inside a huge vehicle that’s dripping in plastic?

 

Who’s the target audience here? I guess it’s cool but... :dunno:

With a starting price of $112K, it's targeted at people with more dollars than sense.

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Much better looking than the Tesla truck.

 

And that's it's only competition. I'm somewhat impressed with the 350 mile range. I think the trickle down will be slow, but inevitable. I think we are only a decade from an electric tow vehicle. So, how do you recharge that in the boondocks?

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11 minutes ago, BeatCJ said:

Much better looking than the Tesla truck.

 

And that's it's only competition. I'm somewhat impressed with the 350 mile range. I think the trickle down will be slow, but inevitable. I think we are only a decade from an electric tow vehicle. So, how do you recharge that in the boondocks?

I agree with your first sentence. I do believe Ford is coming out with an electric F-150 and I'm curious as to how that will compete and what the pricing will be. Maybe they will come out with some sort of solar panel charger?

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7 minutes ago, derf said:

I hate to think about how heavy that thing is to have enough battery power for 350 miles.

I'm curious about this too. I'm guessing it will be 8,000+ pounds, but maybe the body will be very light.

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8 hours ago, 89 MJ said:

I agree with your first sentence. I do believe Ford is coming out with an electric F-150 and I'm curious as to how that will compete and what the pricing will be. Maybe they will come out with some sort of solar panel charger?

I'm not a ford F-150 fan, not at all. But they have got an amazing line up in the new options their coming out with. You can get whatever your heart desires, instead of just making do with the truck on the lot. 

 

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13 hours ago, neohic said:

Who’s the target audience here? I guess it’s cool but... :dunno:

 

Rappers, SM influencers, A list celebrities, and their airheaded yet some how absurdly wealthy ilk.

 

This is 100%, concentrated, consumerist, status symbol seeking, look how much money I have, hot garbage. Which is ok I guess. Not everything has to be a bare bones white work truck.

 

 

The on the fly lift height adjustment was cool though.

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35 minutes ago, ftpiercecracker1 said:

The on the fly lift height adjustment was cool though.

Land Rover and Jeep have been doing it for a while.  Even the Ram trucks have adjustable air suspension.  So that feature isn't exactly new.

 

Though on a truck that expensive, bling like that is expected.

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On 10/22/2020 at 4:42 AM, watchamakalit said:

It honestly makes me vomit a little. I'm not opposed to progress and the changes brought forth by tech advancements, however you don't have to dress it up to look like a pig with lipstick. 

 

Why can't we just get a regular cab no frills truck with a solid reliable drivetrain without heated and cooled steering wheels?

Yes. This is what I here from every farmer around. They are stuck with old vehicles because they see the new computer everything vehicles as a liability. Bring back a simple truck with a good v8 or diesel. Nothing fancy, it just needs to works. 

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17 minutes ago, GreenJeepGrump said:

Yes. This is what I here from every farmer around. They are stuck with old vehicles because they see the new computer everything vehicles as a liability. Bring back a simple truck with a good v8 or diesel. Nothing fancy, it just needs to works. 

Quick weigh in on electronics... Modern engine electronics are absurdly reliable, Cab electronics are unnecessary for a work truck and I agree with the farmers on that. 

HOWEVER, unlike the 1990s and 2000s where OBD2 was required and most diagnostics were covered under the OBD2 umbrella and universal scan tools, manufacturers are figuring out how to put those diagnostics back behind a "Pay Wall" and requiring specific scan tools and subscription software that is not available to consumers. Much like the OBD1 systems from the 80s and 90s. Until the market demands better from the manufacturers (likely through regulation) the situation is only going to get worse. 

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The half ton market has been taken over by the suburbanites and as a result they are less able to function as a working truck.

 

You still can get a pretty bare bones "work truck" in the 3/4 and 1 ton lines that are for the most part good trucks to use around the farm.  There is very little in the way of fancy gadgets inside the cab of these base model trucks.  Seats, a steering wheel, probably a radio, heater and AC controls, and that's about it.

 

We are never going to get away from computerized engines and transmissions.  And at this point, there really is no need to.  It's stupid easy to get a scan tool to tell you what code the computer is throwing and a quick search to find out what it means.  These systems have been in place for over 20 years.  The only reason not to know how to deal with them comes down to refusal to learn.

 

Having grown up with carburetors and having watched the evolution of fuel injection over the last 40 years, I'd take a modern truck over an old one any time.  Even if you compare new vs new, I'll take the modern truck.  Reliability, driveability, fuel economy, power, everything is better with modern trucks.  You don't have to constantly tinker with a carburetor going out of adjustment.  So many older engines were whipped when you hit only 100,000 miles.  I remember having to warm up the engine before you could drive anywhere in the winter.  Now you just get in and go.  And sure, we're not getting 100 MPG, but high teens is a vast improvement over the maybe 10 MPG you get in an old truck.  Then there's the fact that modern small blocks are making as much torque as the big blocks of the 70s.  All while spewing out a bunch less noxious crap out of the tailpipe.

 

This hummer is a stupid truck designed for people who want flash.  And they'll sell out of them because there's a market segment that wants them.  I don't blame GM for making it because they're going to make a ton of money off them and that's what they're in business for.  But beyond that, they're developing technology that will make it into other vehicles over time, much like new features show up in Cadillacs first and then trickle down to the other brands.

 

I also get the desire for a lot of people who want a work truck to do work.  Makes sense.  That's what trucks are for.

 

But at some point, there are just some people who have the attitude that change is bad and that we shouldn't change anything because "CHANGE BAD!!!".  Trouble is, the world is changing whether they like it or not and they're just leaving themselves behind.

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11 minutes ago, Jessemj said:

It's so obvious its a "lifestyle" vehicle like the new gladiator. They are for rich people who want to pretend they go out of their mansions and outside. 

Yes, but I would go so far as to say any Wrangler newer than 2007 is a lifestyle vehicle. Look at the Duck Duck Jeep trend. It's dumb. 

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