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*X8 SEATS - CLOTH LOW-BACK BUCKET -Y1 3LW ADA LIGHT PACKAGE AGI APA MONOTONE PAINT PACKAGE AWJ Visibility Group BCQ Battery - Maintenance Free CAC BUCKET SEAT - LO BK CGW CKA CARPETS - CLASS I SHORT PILE 8 - 12 OZ CLE ACCESSORY FLOOR MAT - FRONT CUF FULL LENGTH FRONT CONSOLE DGQ TRANSMISSION-4SPD AUTOMATIC ERB ENGINE - 4.0L I6 MPI GAS GAC ALL WINDOWS - TINTED GLASS GEC Window - Left Side, Front, Sliding GFD SLIDING RR WINDOW GTZ MIRRORS - MANUAL REMOTE HAA AIR CONDITIONING - FRONT HCC HEATER W/UPR LEVEL VENTIL - TYPE II JAY Instrument Cluster w/Tach JFH TACHOMETER - MECH JGB Clock - Digital JHA WINDSHIELD WIPERS - DELUXE JJA CIGAR LIGHTER - FRT COMP LBB COURTESY LAMPS (BELOW PANEL) LDA UNDERHOOD COMPT LAMP LMA HALOGEN HEADLAMPS LNJ Fog Lamps LPE EXTERIOR CARGO LIGHT MBJ Bumper - Front, Black MCA FRONT BUMPER GUARDS MCB MDA FRT LICENSE PLATE ATTACH REQUIRED MWB SPORT BAR NAA ESA W/CATALYST (EXC CALIF SYSTEM) NHM AUTO SPEED CONTROL PE4 Colorado Red QE4 Colorado Red RAF Radio - AM/FM Cassette SBA POWER STEERING SCE STRG WHL - EURO/SPORT TYPE SUA TILT STEERING COLUMN TBG SPARE TIRE - COMPACT TBL TIRE CARRIER - INSIDE WJM Wheels - 15 x 7.0 Chrome XEA TOW HOOKS Build date 4/15/87 Body code JH61 Sold by SPARKS CHRY-JEEP INC, CONCORD NC

*ZZ TRIM STYLE ZZ - PLASTIC BUCKET SEAT -ZZ CGX Head Restraints-Outboard Seating, RR DDQ Transmission - 5-Speed Manual EFB ENGINE - 2.8L GM 6CYL GAC ALL WINDOWS - TINTED GLASS GFD SLIDING RR WINDOW GSC MIRROR - RIGHT BLACK HCC HEATER W/UPR LEVEL VENTIL - TYPE II JJA CIGAR LIGHTER - FRT COMP LMA HALOGEN HEADLAMPS MBJ Bumper - Front, Black MDA FRT LICENSE PLATE ATTACH REQUIRED MWB SPORT BAR NAA ESA W/CATALYST (EXC CALIF SYSTEM) NFA TANK - 23 GAL FUEL SBA POWER STEERING Build date 3/22/86 Body code JL62

You are correct. The 150’s are common place. But the ones that are damn near impossible to find at the pack-cons or Packard connectors. I don't know why despite ever auto maker, at least GM used them but yet they can’t be found anywhere. Now you could always use a connector that is era correct in its place if it is destroyed but those use pack-con III terminals most of the time.

Pics of said plugs? There’s some you can get new and there’s some you can’t get anymore.

You know, I get asked alot by members what the price of a specific part is. Sometimes I will look them up in the catalog and see what a list price is and other times I will crunch some numbers based on some recent sales and what not and make a good guess. I like to use the catalog method as that can help me gauge a price.

Wait? You haven’t you seen an AQ? Or those Hemi manifolds that are a BA?

Well yes I did know that. Most AMC numbers have an 89 in front of them. Sometimes even an SF or EF before the 89. But according to the catalog the original number to the one I posted is for a kit of the t-stat and gasket. So I am not sure.

It’s a kit that does three different t-stat housings. One for AMC engines and two more for other Chrysler products. I didn’t even know the suffix meant anything. I always thought it was just a change in part number when they go to a new vendor. My best guess about the original part number is that it included the t-start and the gasket for just AMC engines.

We used to stock them but they went on back order for so long that demand for them fell out of our system. Last time we had one, I special ordered for another member about a year ago and it didnt come in for about two-three months.

I’ll get one ordered and we shall see it Tuesday morning.

Ohhhhh. Easy. If I recall from one box I had it said made in the US and the side of the t-stat said moto-rad. I don't recall if it has an air valve or not as that was a couple years ago when I installed it and list price says $36.75 or through me would be about $27. I can order another one from LA and snap pics of it.

*E1 Cloth Bench Seat -SA Charcoal 166 Zone 66-Orlando 1AA U.S. Dealer Retail 5AM Largo Tracking 5KN ALN APA Monotone Paint BAY 105 Amp Alternator BCY BATTERY, 58-475 CC BGA Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes BJA STD DUTY FRT DISC BRAKES BKP 10x2.5 Rear Drum Brakes CBA Straight Back Bench Seat CKA Carpets - Floor and Cargo Area CSR Passenger Assist Handles DGB All 4-Speed Automatic Transmissions DGS 4-Speed Automatic AW4 Transmission DHA Lock-Up Torque Converter DHT Shift-on-the-Fly,P/Time T/Case DMD 3.55 Rear Axle Ratio DRJ Dana 35 Rear Axle EAA All Engines EAF ALL FUEL INJECTED ENGINES-GAS ERB ENGINE - 4.0L I6 MPI GAS GAC Tinted Glass Windows GBB Tinted Windshield Glass GCB Front Door Tinted Glass GEC Front Left Side Sliding Window GFD Rear Sliding Window GNA Rear View Day/Night Mirror GRZ Left Remote Mirror GSZ Right Remote Control Mirror GTZ Manual Remote Mirrors HAA Air Conditioning JAA Instrument Panel JAZ DO NOT USE - See JP, KA classes JBD BEZEL-I/PANEL CLUSTER - BRIGHT JCA 85 MPH Primary Speedometer JHA Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers JJA Cigar Lighter JKB K2X STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR K3E STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR KKE LAF Seat Belt Alert-Driver Seat only LBC Glove Box Lamp LCJ DOME/READING LAMP B-PILLAR LMA Halogen Headlamps MB1 Black Front Bumper MBJ Black Bumper MFG Body Color Headlamp Bezels MHA Black Windshield Moldings MMC Rear Door Solid Window Insert MMG Belt Moldings MMK Grille NAA Federal Emissions NBA LIGHT DUTY CYCLE NBK EVAP Control System NDA Catalytic Converter NF2 18.5 Gallon Fuel Tank PE8 QE8 RAA All Radio Equipped Vehicles RAB AM/FM Radio RCD 4 Speakers SBA Power Steering SCE Steering Wheel SFA Standard Duty Shock Absorbers SGA Rear Shock Absorbers SUA Tilt Steering Column TAA All Tires TAE TBC Compact Spare Tire TBM Tire Carrier Winch TMW Tires WJD 15X7.0 Styled Steel Wheels XBS Pickup Box XFA -35F Protection Anti-Freeze YAA Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications YGE 5 Additional Gallons of Gas Z01 Rear Spring Group I Z1A GVW/Payload Rating Z59 Left Front Spring Group Ix Z78 Right Front Spring Group VIII Build date 6/21/89 Body code TM61 Sold by COURTESY CHRY-JEEP OF CASSELBERRY, CASSELBERRY FL

*X2 -Q8 AGC APA MONOTONE PAINT PACKAGE BCQ Battery - Maintenance Free CBA BENCH SEAT - STRAIGHT BK CGW DDJ 5SPD MANUAL TRANS DSA LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL DTA ERB ENGINE - 4.0L I6 MPI GAS GAC ALL WINDOWS - TINTED GLASS GEC Window - Left Side, Front, Sliding HAA AIR CONDITIONING - FRONT JAY Instrument Cluster w/Tach JGB Clock - Digital JHA WINDSHIELD WIPERS - DELUXE JJA CIGAR LIGHTER - FRT COMP LAP FUEL ECONOMY SHIFT INDICATOR LIGHT LMA HALOGEN HEADLAMPS MBJ Bumper - Front, Black NAA ESA W/CATALYST (EXC CALIF SYSTEM) NHQ PWB QWB SBA POWER STEERING SUA TILT STEERING COLUMN TBB CONVENTIONAL SPARE TIRE WMC BASE WHEEL DRESS - UP (INCLS TRIM RING) Build date 2/4/88 Body code TL61 Sold by ST PETERSBURG JEEP-EAGLE INC, ST PETERSBURG FL

The hell?! Is this even legal to sell a title? Even if it is dead? Like thats personal info on those too. Anywhooo...... *E1 Cloth Bench Seat -SA Charcoal 161 Zone 61-Atlanta 1AA U.S. Dealer Retail 5AM Largo Tracking 5KM AMES Department Stores ALM Longhorn Southfork Package APA Monotone Paint BAY 105 Amp Alternator BCY BATTERY, 58-475 CC BGA Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes BJA STD DUTY FRT DISC BRAKES BKP 10x2.5 Rear Drum Brakes CBA Straight Back Bench Seat CKA Carpets - Floor and Cargo Area CSR Passenger Assist Handles DGB All 4-Speed Automatic Transmissions DGS 4-Speed Automatic AW4 Transmission DHA Lock-Up Torque Converter DHT Elec,Shift-on-the-Fly,P/Time T/Case DMD 3.55 Rear Axle Ratio DRJ Dana M235 Wide Rear Axle EAA All Engines EAF ALL FUEL INJECTED ENGINES-GAS ERB ENGINE - 4.0L I6 MPI GAS GAC Tinted Glass Windows GBB Tinted Windshield Glass GCB Front Door Tinted Glass GEH Fixed Door Vent Glass GNA Rear View Day/Night Mirror GRZ Left Remote Mirror GSZ Right Remote Control Mirror GTZ Manual Remote Mirrors HAA Air Conditioning JAA Instrument Panel JAZ DO NOT USE - See JP, KA classes JBD BEZEL-I/PANEL CLUSTER - BRIGHT JCA 85 MPH Primary Speedometer JHA Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers JJA Cigar Lighter JKB MOPAR Hood Lock K2X STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR K3C STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR KKE LAF Seat Belt Alert-Driver Seat only LBC Glove Box Lamp LCJ DOME/READING LAMP B-PILLAR LMA Halogen Headlamps MB1 Black Front Bumper MBJ Black Powder Coated Front Bumper MFG Body Color Headlamp Bezels MHA Black Windshield Moldings MMC Rear Door Solid Window Insert MMG Belt Moldings MMK Lower Grille Surround-Painted Silver NAA Federal Emissions NBA LIGHT DUTY CYCLE NBK EVAP Control System NDA Catalytic Converter NF2 18.5 Gallon Fuel Tank NHM Speed Control PQ9 DRK BALTIC BLUE M CC PRIMARY PAINT - HQ9 QQ9 DK BALTIC BLUE MCC SECONDARY PAINT - HQ9 RAA All Radio Equipped Vehicles RAF AM/FM Cassette Radio RCD 4 Speakers SBA Power Rack and Pinion Steering SCE Alcantara Wrap Steering Wheel SFA Standard Duty Shock Absorbers SGA Rear Shock Absorbers SUA Tilt Steering Column TAA All Tires TBC Compact Spare Tire TBM Tire Carrier Winch TPF P205/75R15 BSW All Season Tires WJD 15X7.0 Styled Steel Wheels XBS Pickup Box XFA -35F Protection Anti-Freeze YAA Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications YGG 9 Additional Gallons of Gas Z01 Rear Spring Group I Z1A GVW/Payload Rating Z59 Left Front Spring Group Ix Z78 Right Front Spring Group VIII Build date 9/9/88 Body code TM61 Sold by PIERSON JEEP, GADSDEN AL

That’s a good piece right there.

*X1 TRIM STYLE X1 - CLOTH BENCH -SA Charcoal 172 Zone 72-Portland 1AA U.S. Dealer Retail 5KK First American Title Insurance CO. ALA ALK APA Monotone Paint BAQ 61 AMP ALTERNATOR BCX Maint. Free Battery BGA Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes CBA Straight Back Bench Seat CKA Carpets - Floor and Cargo Area CSR Passenger Assist Handles CUM Mini Floor Console DBB All Manual Transmissions DDQ 5-Speed Manual Transmission DHN Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System DJH 230MM Front Axle DMM 3.07 Rear Axle Ratio DRJ Dana 35 Rear Axle EAA All Engines EAF ALL FUEL INJECTED ENGINES-GAS ERB ENGINE - 4.0L I6 MPI GAS GAC Tinted Glass Windows GBB Tinted Windshield Glass GCB Front Door Tinted Glass GEH Fixed Door Vent Glass GNA Rear View Day/Night Mirror GRV Left Manual Mirror GUA Open HCD Do Not Use - See HCA JAZ DO NOT USE - See JP, KA classes JCA 85 MPH Primary Speedometer JJA Cigar Lighter K3Z STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR KWX LAP Shift Indicator Warning Lamp LBC Glove Box Lamp LCJ DOME/READING LAMP B-PILLAR LMA Halogen Headlamps MB1 Black Front Bumper MBJ Black Bumper MDA Front License Plate Bracket MFF Black Grille MHB Bright Windshield Moldings MMC Rear Door Solid Window Insert MMG Belt Moldings MMJ DRIP TROUGH MOLDINGS - TYPE I NAA Federal Emissions NBK EVAP Control System NF5 Fuel Tank - 23 Gallon PE4 COLORADO RED CC PRI PNT - HE4 QE4 COLORADO RED CC SEC PNT - HE4 RA8 Delete Radio SBA PowerSteering SCB Steering Whl SFA Standard Duty Shock Absorbers SGA Rear Shock Absorbers TAA All Tires TBB Full Size Spare Tire TBM Tire Carrier Winch TPF P205/75R15 BSW All Season Tires WJK 15X6.0 Styled Steel Wheels WLY All Steel Wheels XBS Pickup Box YAA Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications YEP Manuf Statement of Origin YGE 5 Additional Gallons of Gas Z01 Rear Spring Group I Z5A GVW/Payload Rating Z65 Left Front Group XIV Z84 Right Front Spring Group XIII Build date 8/3/89 Body code JL62 Sold by SCARFF AUTO CENTER INC, KALISPELL MT

*E1 Cloth Bench Seat -SA Charcoal 171 Zone 71-Los Angeles 1AA U.S. Dealer Retail 4AF ALA APA Monotone Paint BAY 105 Amp Alternator BCY 475 AMP BATTERY BGA Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes CBA Straight Back Bench Seat CKJ Black Vinyl Floor Covering CSR Passenger Assist Handles DGB All 4-Speed Automatic Transmissions DGS 4-Speed Automatic AW4 Transmission DHT Shift-on-the-Fly,P/Time T/Case DMD 3.55 Rear Axle Ratio DRK Dana 44/226MM Rear Axle DSA Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle ERB ENGINE - 4.0L I6 MPI GAS GAC Tinted Glass Windows GBB Tinted Windshield Glass GCB Front Door Tinted Glass GEH Fixed Door Vent Glass GNA Rear View Day/Night Mirror GRV Left Manual Mirror GUA Open HAA Air Conditioning JAZ DO NOT USE - See JP, KA classes JCA 85 MPH Primary Speedometer K3Z STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR KWW LBC Glove Box Lamp LCJ DOME/READING LAMP B-PILLAR LMA Halogen Headlamps MB1 Black Front Bumper MDA Front License Plate Bracket MFF Black Grille MHB Bright Windshield Moldings MMC Rear Door Solid Window Insert MMG Belt Moldings MMJ DRIP TROUGH MOLDINGS - TYPE I NAE California Emissions NBK EVAP Control System NF5 Fuel Tank - 23 Gallon PX8 QX8 RA8 Delete Radio SBA Power Steering SCB Steering Whl SFB Front Heavy Duty Shock Absorbers SGB Rear Heavy Duty Shock Absorbers TAA All Tires TBB Full Size Spare Tire TBM Tire Carrier Winch TRP 225/70R19.5G All Pos Traction Tires WJD 15X7.0 Styled Steel Wheels WLY All Steel Wheels XBS Pickup Box YAA Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications YEP Manuf Statement of Origin YGE 5 Additional Gallons of Gas Z01 Rear Spring Group I Z1B GVW/Payload Rating Z58 Left Front Spring Group Viii Z77 Right Front Spring Group VII Build date 11/8/89 Body code TL62 Sold by ACTION AUTO RENTAL, IRVING TX Where are ya at in AZ?

*B1 TRIM STYLE B1 - CLOTH &&&& VNL BENCH SEAT -SA Charcoal 161 Zone 61-Atlanta 1AA U.S. Dealer Retail 5AL Low Series Tracking APA Monotone Paint BAQ 61 AMP ALTERNATOR BCY BATTERY, 58-475 CC BGA Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes BJA STD DUTY FRT DISC BRAKES BKP 10x2.5 Rear Drum Brakes CBA Straight Back Bench Seat CKJ Black Vinyl Floor Covering CSR Passenger Assist Handles CUM Mini Floor Console DBB All Manual Transmissions DDQ 5-Speed Manual Transmission DMF 4.10 Rear Axle Ratio DRJ Dana 35 Rear Axle EAA All Engines EAF ALL FUEL INJECTED ENGINES-GAS EPD ENGINE - 2.5L I4 TBI GAS GAC Tinted Glass Windows GBB Tinted Windshield Glass GCB Front Door Tinted Glass GEH Fixed Door Vent Glass GNA Rear View Day/Night Mirror GRV Left Manual Mirror GUA Open HAA Air Conditioning JAA Instrument Panel JAY DO NOT USE - See JP, KA classes JBF Instrument Panel Black Bezel JCA 85 MPH Primary Speedometer JGB JKB K3Z STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR KDB STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING LAF Seat Belt Alert-Driver Seat only LAP Shift Indicator Warning Lamp LBC Glove Box Lamp LCJ DOME/READING LAMP B-PILLAR LMA Halogen Headlamps MB1 Black Front Bumper MBJ Black Bumper MDA Front License Plate Bracket MFF Black Grille MHB Bright Windshield Moldings MMC Rear Door Solid Window Insert MMG Belt Moldings MMJ DRIP TROUGH MLDG - TYPE I NAA Federal Emissions NBA LIGHT DUTY CYCLE NBK EVAP Control System NDA Catalytic Converter NF2 18.5 Gallon Fuel Tank NMC Heavy Duty Engine Cooling PWB QWB RAA All Radio Equipped Vehicles RAC AM MTR Radio RCA SBA Power Steering SCB Steering Whl SFA Standard Duty Shock Absorbers SGA Rear Shock Absorbers TAA All Tires TBC Compact Spare Tire TBM Tire Carrier Winch TNC P195/65R15 BSW AS Touring Tires WJK 15X6.0 Styled Steel Wheels WMC Bright Wheel Trim Rings XBS Pickup Box XFA -35F Protection Anti-Freeze YAA Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications YGG 9 Additional Gallons of Gas Z01 Rear Spring Group I Z1A GVW/Payload Rating Z57 Left Front Spring Group Vii Z76 Right Front Spring Group VI Build date 9/17/88 Body code TL61 Sold by BOB BEARD JEEP-EAGLE INC, AUGUSTA GA

*A6 Seats - Vinyl High Back Bucket -Q8 3LW ADE COLD WEATHER PACKAGE AGI APA MONOTONE PAINT PACKAGE BCQ Battery - Maintenance Free CBA BENCH SEAT - STRAIGHT BK CGX Head Restraints-Outboard Seating, RR CKA CARPETS - CLASS I SHORT PILE 8 - 12 OZ DDQ Transmission - 5-Speed Manual EPD ENGINE - 2.5L I4 TBI GAS GAC ALL WINDOWS - TINTED GLASS GFD SLIDING RR WINDOW GSC MIRROR - RIGHT BLACK HCC HEATER W/UPR LEVEL VENTIL - TYPE II JAY Instrument Cluster w/Tach JGB Clock - Digital JHA WINDSHIELD WIPERS - DELUXE JJA CIGAR LIGHTER - FRT COMP LAP FUEL ECONOMY SHIFT INDICATOR LIGHT LMA HALOGEN HEADLAMPS MBJ Bumper - Front, Black MDA FRT LICENSE PLATE ATTACH REQUIRED MWB SPORT BAR NAF HIGH ALTITUDE EMISS CONTROL PKG NHK ENGINE BLOCK HEATER PA2 PRIMARY PAINT - FA2 QA2 SECONDARY PAINT - FA2 RAB Radio - AM/FM SBA POWER STEERING SCE STRG WHL - EURO/SPORT TYPE SUA TILT STEERING COLUMN TBG SPARE TIRE - COMPACT WJM Wheels - 15 x 7.0 Chrome XEA TOW HOOKS Build date 4/2/87 Body code JH61 Sold by BILL ANSELMI INC, ROCK SPRINGS WY

Like stroker said about removing the bumper but I’d go farther and get it powder coated. I don't know how much it might cost ya to someone local but I had mine done for just shy of $230 if I remember right and that kind of work will last a much longer time than painting. Plus it’ll look nice and new(be the envy of your MJ friends!) but as other side mask off everything that isn’t the bumper and go to town on your choice of paint works as well.

83501426AD. Ready to order whenever.

Lol, none left now.

I hate to say it but it looks like I can still order the full door seal but the individual pieces for the glass are discontinued and there’s like one or two of each piece left in the US.

*D4 TRIM STYLE D4 - VINYL BENCH SEAT -SA CHARCOAL 174 Zone 74-Denver 1AA U.S. Dealer Retail ADH Heavy Duty Electrical Group ALA APA Monotone Paint BAF 130 Amp Alternator BCY 475 AMP BATTERY BGA Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes CBA Straight Back Bench Seat CKJ Black Vinyl Floor Covering CUM Mini Floor Console DBB All Manual Transmissions DDQ 5-Speed Manual Transmission DHN Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System DJH 230MM Front Axle DMM 3.07 Rear Axle Ratio DRJ Dana 35 Rear Axle ERH 4.0L I6 Power Tech Engine GAC Tinted Glass Windows GBB Tinted Windshield Glass GCB Front Door Tinted Glass GEH Fixed Door Vent Glass GRV Left Manual Mirror GUA Open HCD Do Not Use - See HCA JAZ DO NOT USE - See JP, KA classes JCA 85 MPH Primary Speedometer JHA Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers K3Z STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR KDP STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING COLOR KWA STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR LAP Shift Indicator Warning Lamp LBC Glove Box Lamp LMA Halogen Headlamps MB1 Black Front Bumper MDA Front License Plate Bracket MFF Black Grille MHB Bright Windshield Moldings MMC Rear Door Solid Window Insert MMG Belt Moldings MMJ DRIP TROUGH MOLDINGS - TYPE I NAA Federal Emissions NBK EVAP Control System NF2 18.5 Gallon Fuel Tank PB3 Paint QB3 Paint RA8 Delete Radio SBA Power Steering SCE Steering Wheel SFA Standard Duty Shock Absorbers SGA Rear Shock Absorbers SUA Tilt Steering Column TBC Compact Spare Tire TBM Tire Carrier Winch TNC P195/65R15 BSW AS Touring Tires TZH Michelin Brand Tires WJK 15X6.0 Styled Steel Wheels WLY All Steel Wheels XBS Pickup Box YAA Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications YEP Manuf Statement of Origin YGE 5 Additional Gallons of Gas Z01 Rear Spring Group I Z5A GVW/Payload Rating Z65 Left Front Group XIV Z81 Right Front Spring Group X Build date 9/17/90 Body code JL61 Sold by KIZZIER CHEVROLET CO INC, SCOTTSBLUFF NE

That’s ok, probably what I did isn’t as bad but when I first got my truck I scrapped my spare tire winch like an idiot thinking “it’s a Jeep, there ought to be new carriers out there”. Nope I was wrong and it was that moment on I started hanging on to stuff.