pizzaman09 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Anyone know where I can find this door seal along the A pillar? I suspect it is the cause of most of my wind noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big66440 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I haven't seen an aftermarket supplier for that gasket/seal from any of the suppliers. If I could make a suggestion to rule out where your noise is coming from you can have some one tape off (I recommend using painters tape) the different areas you suspect you're getting noise from. I thought my wind noise was coming from the same area but it turns out it was saggy door hinges not allowing the weather stripping that goes around the entire door do it's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxyjeep Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 @Limeyjeeper did something cool to replicate the stock weatherstripping there. He got 1/2” aluminum angle iron, riveted it in place and used the other edge to attach the weatherstripping. I’ve bought the parts but haven’t attempted it yet. The upper seal is made by Precision part no DWB 6111 84. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaman09 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, big66440 said: I haven't seen an aftermarket supplier for that gasket/seal from any of the suppliers. If I could make a suggestion to rule out where your noise is coming from you can have some one tape off (I recommend using painters tape) the different areas you suspect you're getting noise from. I thought my wind noise was coming from the same area but it turns out it was saggy door hinges not allowing the weather stripping that goes around the entire door do it's job. I've definitely considered doing this. Also I definitely have sagging door hinges. 28 minutes ago, SoCalJeepComanche said: @Limeyjeeper did something cool to replicate the stock weatherstripping there. He got 1/2” aluminum angle iron, riveted it in place and used the other edge to attach the weatherstripping. I’ve bought the parts but haven’t attempted it yet. The upper seal is made by Precision part no DWB 6111 84. I like the method. I hope you did something to prevent galvanic corrosion between the aluminum and the body of the truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Use the more robust later model versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, cruiser54 said: Use the more robust later model versions? What specifically are you referring to? I’ve heard this mentioned before but the only thing I’ve seen used from the 97+ is the actual door seal. Haven’t seen anything that actually replaces this a pillar seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 The A pillar seals are stiffer and don't warp. some had this added, which in NLA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 18 hours ago, cruiser54 said: The A pillar seals are stiffer and don't warp. some had this added, which in NLA. So there is an a pillar seal for the 97+ that is similar to the 96-? Any chance you have a part number for that? I was under the impression they did away with the a pillar seal on 97+ but I haven’t really spend any time looking for that part on a 97+ Edit: found an image of what I believe to be the 97+ a pillar seals. They appear to be a more block style design which makes sense. I’ll see if I can find some decent used ones. @eaglescout526 any chance you have a part number for these? Edit 2: these seals are for a TJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 55175355AD. Discontinued. None around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 That's not the straight one attached to the A pillar though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I’m seeing that part number superseded by 55175355AC and seeing quite a few of those in stock. But according to the picture in the diagram below, it still looks like the seal is mounted to some sort of lip. What is that lip? Does someone have a good picture(s) of an a pillar from a 97+ XJ with this seal setup. It’s listed as the “seal, secondary”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Just to follow up, I’d like to confirm this info for future reference. Can anyone get us a picture of the secondary seal and what it mounts to on a 97+ XJ A pillar? I’m aware of many referring to the the 97+ door seals which seal the door to the cab opening but this is the secondary seal that runs along the A pillar and is not part of the main door seal in either pre or post 97 models. The part numbers and diagrams I’ve found don’t match the Mopar parts diagram either. Is it possible there were 3 or more variations of this seal over the years? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Wait. What if we just took a full door seal, cut it up and used the factory plastic rivets to rivet it in place and have a better full seal? Or even double sided tape like the later ones. I mean we don’t exactly have to use the original style that the factory got as its clear we aren’t finding anything remotely like the old part and nothing else in the Chrysler family uses this part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 The A pillar seal. The long one. It is much more rigid than the flimsy early one. Not sure when they changed to the improved one. Reduces wind noise. Not sure how to adapt it or if it needs adapting. The little seal at the bottom of the A pillar seal is NLA for sure. BUT, I bet you could make one or grab one at the wrecking yard. It's like a black foam material and is glued on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 3 hours ago, eaglescout526 said: Wait. What if we just took a full door seal, cut it up and used the factory plastic rivets to rivet it in place and have a better full seal? Or even double sided tape like the later ones. I mean we don’t exactly have to use the original style that the factory got as its clear we aren’t finding anything remotely like the old part and nothing else in the Chrysler family uses this part. You’ll need something to keep consistent pressure on that seal along the pillar. Some sort of backing material. I think limeys solution was a good idea. So I guess no one has been able to identify what the a pillar secondary seal mounted to on the 97+?? That seal is still available from several sources but I don’t know what it mounts to (see pic above and red circle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, ghetdjc320 said: You’ll need something to keep consistent pressure on that seal along the pillar. Some sort of backing material. I think limeys solution was a good idea Orrrrr a piece of metal made to mimic the original strip and just put a piece of foam on it that should keep a good seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, eaglescout526 said: Orrrrr a piece of metal made to mimic the original strip and just put a piece of foam on it that should keep a good seal. Like @Limeyjeeper did. So from what I can gather, the original pre 97 seal was just a rubber strip that mounted to the a pillar. It also had small foam pieces attached to it to help keep its rigidity. The 97+ is a rubber seal (part number 55175355AC) and it mounts onto a similar seal as the 96- (sort of a rigid plastic piece that is mounted to the a pillar. The rubber seal is still available but the plastic strip it mounts to isn’t… does that sound correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Oh…hahaha guess I didn’t really read into what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpnjake Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 7 hours ago, ghetdjc320 said: Just to follow up, I’d like to confirm this info for future reference. Can anyone get us a picture of the secondary seal and what it mounts to on a 97+ XJ A pillar? I’m aware of many referring to the the 97+ door seals which seal the door to the cab opening but this is the secondary seal that runs along the A pillar and is not part of the main door seal in either pre or post 97 models. The part numbers and diagrams I’ve found don’t match the Mopar parts diagram either. Is it possible there were 3 or more variations of this seal over the years? TIA It mounts to a piece of sheet metal bent out of the a pillar skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpnjake Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Also just had an idea, if you have an old seal that doesn’t line up or you just want a better seal, you can just take the new one and slide it on over the old one putting it on backwards seems to give a good seal, but forwards probably gives a slightly better seal at cost to looks Backwards: The “Correct way” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 So that's the 3rd design I guess. There was the flimsy angled one on early models. Then the more rigid replacement. then this. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, cruiser54 said: So that's the 3rd design I guess. There was the flimsy angled one on early models. Then the more rigid replacement. then this. ?? I’m beginning to think it’s just two designs. The rubber strip that had plastic retainers into the A pillar then the redesigned A pillar in the 97+ with the lip that the new seal would go on. Thanks @jpnjake for those pics! So one would need to fabricate a lip for the 97+ secondary seal to mount to. I’ve heard many times about upgrading to the 97+ style seal but I believe most comments are referring to the door to cab seal and not to this secondary A pillar seal. It seams many are missing that secondary seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 What about some other kind of seal (Trim-Lok) that has a stiff backbone and can be plastic riveted to the same position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 It's 3 designs. I knew of the flimsy early one, then the more rigid one. I did NOT know of the one that fits on the metal rail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpnjake Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, ghetdjc320 said: I’m beginning to think it’s just two designs. The rubber strip that had plastic retainers into the A pillar then the redesigned A pillar in the 97+ with the lip that the new seal would go on. Thanks @jpnjake for those pics! So one would need to fabricate a lip for the 97+ secondary seal to mount to. I’ve heard many times about upgrading to the 97+ style seal but I believe most comments are referring to the door to cab seal and not to this secondary A pillar seal. It seams many are missing that secondary seal. No problem, I’ve been wanting to look into this for a while From what I’ve experienced the early style design (rubber) if still in place can work was there rail to mount the newstyle seal on, you have to flip the seal around the other way, but it still works, I even took it on the highway and it made a big difference in wind noise. (This is with the original door seals and stock sound deadening.) ^ How I have the newstyle seals mounted on my original 89 ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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