Drahcir495 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Anybody have an idea of what the real cost of everything needed to put this motor in the MJ? Any good write ups on this that you could direct me too? Just started thinking about this -> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limeyjeeper Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 You won't get much change out of $6 - $8k if you do it right. I am building one right now. Novak Conversions are a great resource for V8 swaps. Long block $3k Trans adapter $400 Valve covers $200 Engine mounts $400 Headers $500 Radiator $400 LS1 intake $300 Alternator $300 PS pump $200 Accessory drive relocate $500 Harness and PCM $1,000 Water pump $200 Hoses $300 Etc, etc ,etc The small stuff will nickel and dime you to death. You can get a high mileage LS from the junkyard but you will always have to deal with failing components. You might get lucky and save yourself a few grand. If you want to build a long term reliable power plant thst fits under the hood of an MJ it isnt cheap. But neither is a stroker and an LS will give you much more power and flexibility. Having gone through this I have huge admiration for the GM engine designers they built an incredibly versatile platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 buying a whole donor rig and having wicked fab skills is the only way I've seen it done for "cheap". there are a few chevy v8 swaps in the Epic forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Limeyjeeper said: Etc, etc ,etc First two things which came to mind are- Drive shafts, front and rear, depending on quality and from whom- figure around $700. Exhaust, mandrel bent, custom shop, you can figure around $1200 and beyond. 8 hours ago, Limeyjeeper said: The small stuff will nickel and dime you to death. You can figure another $2K worth of nickles and dimes......universal. Starter, cables, battery, hoses and clamps, wiring, loom, solder, connectors, master and slave, clutch, fluids, and on and on........... And if you are going to put 400hp/tq and beyond to the wheels.........brakes. Etc, etc, etc............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limeyjeeper Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 But it is by far the most rewarding project I have ever attempted.!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Drahcir495 said: Any good write ups on this that you could direct me too? 14 years ago, when I was building rifles, we could build an AK47/74 for sub $200, those days are forever gone. Same applies here, the days of $400 MJs and donors and cheap Trail Trash are about to, if not already, end, forever. What's my point? Jeep Culture. There are few, very few, MJ owners who have taken their trucks to the next level. When they come here, virtually any Jeep site, and state that I've done X, and the responses are- "I'd never pay for that!" or "I didn't pay that much for my entire truck", well, when you do that to guys.......you clam them up, they stay quiet. The XJ/MJ culture will change over time. The MJ you could buy for $2K ten years ago will now cost you $6K. Guys with the wherewithal to build expensive trucks will. One of my favorite phrases- Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to. Let's pretend for a moment, Muscle Car group/site, 69 Camaro, full Brembo brakes, custom wheels and tires to accommodate Brembos, upwards of $10K. No one is going to ask how much because everyone already knows how much, these are cars upwards and beyond $100K. I may spring for a Wilwood master, if so I'll have about $2500 in my brakes. I really want the 15" rotors with six-pots in the front and to move the fronts to the rear......add another $2K. And $2500 for 18" wheels/tires to accommodate, which I already have. None of this S--- it cheap, none of it. And if you want guys to be more informative about costs, efforts, ideas, desires......etc..........you guys need to be more accepting and less critical. I'm looking at a couple of blocks next week, Vortec, old-skool, I know what I want and I'm not going the LS route. That said, I'll likely, well, I will, have more invested than $8K. The transmission I want behind it is $6K. No crate engines, I want to build my own, good blocks are getting harder to find now, been looking. I may be poor but I'm determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70barracuda Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Limeyjeeper is correct on all the aspects. I'm in the middle of an ls swap as well. I still have the engine on a stand and I am still gathering parts. I am trying to keep this sub 5k. He is definitely going the correct professional way, I am going the junkyard just get it running way...we shall see how it pans out for me. I wanted an all aluminum block so I paid more than your iron block ls. Expect to pay about 600 for a lowish mileage junkyard one. I got 2 used transmissions for 300. But I'm staying 2wd so I save alot on transfer case and driveshafts. My list is absolutely no where near done but this is a bulk of the big stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMMYRIG Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I may have a donor LQ from a 2003 GMC Yukon XL. Would this still be worth it to swap even tho its not technically LS? And does anyone have an idea on cost for adapting this motor? I want to keep the truck manual... I assume theres a bell housing adapter for the peugots and ax15s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 28 minutes ago, JIMMYRIG said: I may have a donor LQ from a 2003 GMC Yukon XL. Would this still be worth it to swap even tho its not technically LS? And does anyone have an idea on cost for adapting this motor? I want to keep the truck manual... I assume theres a bell housing adapter for the peugots and ax15s? There is no bell housing adapter for the Peugeot. There is one for the AX-15. You’ll need motor mounts, headers/exhaust, a car intake and accessory drive, the ECU tuned, plus the adapter for the bell housing. You’ll have a few thousand in just those parts. Then there will be stuff like the clutch and flywheel, miscellaneous seals and gaskets. Plus you might need to get driveshafts made. Probably plan for $5k if you can do all of the work yourself. Whether or not it’s worth it is up to you. I personally wouldn’t pull a good 4.0 for an LS, but if the 4.0 ever has issues, I’ll strongly be considering an LS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJeepGuy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 My 87MJ that's LS swapped and on 1 tons ran me 12k. I'm being honest here, I didn't build the jeep myself, I met the original builder while in the midst of it and that is how I know him to this day. His first MJ turned into a wicked build and we got to talking about MJ tailgates then etc etc etc. After a couple years he sold the jeep off for roughly $20k, several owners of rather neglectful use - it's mine to make right or rather my LS swapped invisionment. I bring this to the table as I am playing in the route of buying a pre-built rig - which surprise all the things you think you would do differently - you will prolly end up changing/making right for you which still adds $$$$ to get it the way you'd rather have it. No regrets really as I really enjoy my truck though I don't get the pride statement that yes I built it. It'd be hard to say which way is best, cheap just yard route - just make it run mentality vs the go all out and presentation level build when it's finished. I suppose as long as your enjoying how and what it's becoming then good on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75sv1 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 14 hours ago, JIMMYRIG said: I may have a donor LQ from a 2003 GMC Yukon XL. Would this still be worth it to swap even tho its not technically LS? And does anyone have an idea on cost for adapting this motor? I want to keep the truck manual... I assume theres a bell housing adapter for the peugots and ax15s? Why is it not 'Technically' an LS? Anyways, your should be a Gen 3 block. I'd look at Limey's swap thread, 'Comanche Dawn'. I'm in the parts gathered, need to assemble phase. I built am building my engine from an NOS Gen 3 block and 243 heads. The market has changed or progressed in the past 3 years when I started. At least on camshafts. I bought a Comp Cam with .530 lift. It went into my Avalanche. Truck cams came out about a year latter. Now I'm looking at a VVT camshaft. I'm also going with a 4L60E trans. I think there is a shift now to go with the 4L80E in the market. 70Barracuda and Limey's are two that I've seen at Carlise. Both well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75sv1 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 As for cost on the engine: NOS Block $400 Pistons $300-$350 Hypereutectic and coated Machining to fit new pistons $400 Crankshaft $400 NOS Takeoff Heads used : $200 Junkyard Machining of heads $400 Valves $200 or more, Powell Cam Valves Springs $125 LSexcelleration Keepers, retainers etc $200 Powell Cams and Alex's Parts Camshaft $400 (can do cheaper) So, then there are rocker arms, push rods, valve covers oil pump, water pump and ... I did 'upgrade' on my Avalanche's motor. I did have the alternator rebuilt and the starter rebuilt , $90 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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