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17 hours ago, Pete M said:

can you bend tube?

I do not have access to a bender without cost.   I have been doing a bunch of research on cheaper tubing benders that actually work and haven't really found one I am confident in at a decent cost.  I've also been researching the "no bend" cages.  I have come across a few forums on these "no bend" cages and everyone who uses them claim that bending is not as strong as a properly welded and triangulated cage and that most people bend because racing organizations don't want to take the chance on people's welds, and because bending is easier to do.   They even pointed out that a lot of trophy truck frames only have a couple small bends at most. 

 

I'm currently leaning towards the "no bend" cage because of huge cost savings for me and the fact that I don't really see a situation I would have this thing in where I'd have a really serious rollover.  And if the thin factory roof held up as well as it did in a 60+mph rollover, I don't see why even a "no bend" cage couldn't sustain a low speed rollover.   If I did go this route, I'd prolly make two joints for the "bends" to give it more of a gradual edge.   

 

Also I've been researching using a stick welder for a cage on some welding forums.  Many welders claim that it will produce a stronger weld but it's difficult to keep a good arc on round tube and ironically also stated racing organizations won't allow it because they don't trust people's ability to arc weld tube.  They unanimously said to use 7018 Excalibur welding rods for the cage to get the best welds. 

 

Any input is greatly appreciated.  And yes I know money doesn't matter when it comes to safety but money does matter when it comes to this vehicle and the roof is not structural anymore so anything is better than what it has.  

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I believe "properly welded" is the key there.  how good are your welding skills with a stick buzzbox?  

 

I have neither a good welder nor a bender and so I found a local guy that had both for my rollbar.  :L:  I kept my design simple (4 bends, 4 notches) and it was very affordable (I did all the prep work and built the mounts myself).  you'll need a front hoop, a rear hoop and some runners.  in its simplest form that's 4 bends and 6 notches.  add in a couple diagonals and you're way ahead of the game. :D  Just remember that your cage is only as good as the mounting points so give them some thought. :L:  

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1 hour ago, Pete M said:

I believe "properly welded" is the key there.  how good are your welding skills with a stick buzzbox?  

 

I have neither a good welder nor a bender and so I found a local guy that had both for my rollbar.  :L:  I kept my design simple (4 bends, 4 notches) and it was very affordable (I did all the prep work and built the mounts myself).  you'll need a front hoop, a rear hoop and some runners.  in its simplest form that's 4 bends and 6 notches.  add in a couple diagonals and you're way ahead of the game. :D  Just remember that your cage is only as good as the mounting points so give them some thought. :L:  

Yeah I used to be a pretty good welder buy I haven't used anything other than a MIG for 5 years.  I'd definitely practice quite a bit before going for it.  I have actually contemplated buying this Calmini cage and adding from there but being for a 2 door, idk what the difference would be in a 4 door.  I don't plan on using the back doors so that isn't an issue.  The problem is that with shipping, it leaves me no room left in my budget for this thing.  I guess really thinking about it tho, a "no bend" cage requires more tube so would I really save any money? 

https://www.calmini.com/detail.php?b=2&m=5&t=5&p=692&n=

 

As for mounting points, I will be sandwiching the floor with steel plates and grade 8s for sure. 

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Bought a 2'x4'x1/4" sheet of Lexan off eBay to replace the windshield, which should be here around Christmas.  Will soon be driving the Suzuki out to my new house and continue the project since I'm too broke to do the work I want to on the Jeeps. 

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