Never Thought He Would Win...........

[DTA]

America in a nutshell:

"I'm not voting for Hillary." -Oh so you must support a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic fascist who's literally Hitler! 

"I'm not voting for Trump." -Oh so you must support a pathological lying criminal!

"I'm voting third party." -Why would you do that, that's a waste of a vote!

"I'm not voting." -BUT IT IS YOUR CIVIC DUTY AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN TO VOTE 

[87MJTIM]

America in a nutshell:

"I'm not voting for Hillary." -Oh so you must support a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic fascist who's literally Hitler! 

"I'm not voting for Trump." -Oh so you must support a pathological lying criminal!

"I'm voting third party." -Why would you do that, that's a waste of a vote!

"I'm not voting." -BUT IT IS YOUR CIVIC DUTY AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN TO VOTE 

 

You sound like an Ex-Pat.   :rotfl2:

[HOrnbrod]

damn, i come to CC to avoid all political BS...

 

If we didn't have political BS discussions like this, how could the Canadian guys bash American politics?  :yes:

 

And I don't mind at all because it is like a sad soap opera at times. Especially lately..............

[rocklaser]

 

 

 

 

There are Americans that don't know how our system works.  This is frightening.

 

What's more frightening is they vote!

 

 

Yes, that is frightening.  And this time they elected a disgrace, but seem happy to do it.  Guess there was a reason why Alexander Hamilton believed government should be by the "Rich, the Able, and the Well Born".

 

really?  From Cali?  lets let illegals vote.  Better yet we should elect a person who should have been convicted under numerous federal statutes.  Thats a disgrace

[gogmorgo]

If we didn't have political BS discussions like this, how could the Canadian guys bash American politics? :yes:

 

And I don't mind at all because it is like a sad soap opera at times. Especially lately..............

This is what watching this one's been like for us.

 

I still don't understand why it takes you almost three years of campaigning to have a regularly scheduled election, when we can call, plan, and hold one within three months.

[DTA]

Lots of countries including Canada have laws dictating how long a campaign period can be, while America doesn't. Also the amount of money they throw around for advertising probably has something to do with it

[Keyav8r]

Personally I'm pleased with the way things turned out, given the choice we had. Do I think the two candidates were the best of their respective parties? No. I think there were others on both sides who had more to offer, but they didn't make the cut.

Bottom line, it is what it is. Trump got the electoral votes, Clinton conceded, we move forward and hope for healing and unity as a nation.

[Knucklehead97]

 

 

I prefered Trump over Hillary but I voted for neither. Voted, still, but voted for neither. Being Libertarian I'm never happy with the way the election turns out.

So what's the point of that Knuck? It accomplishes nothing except maybe a silent protest that no one hears except yourself. But that's cool. :cheers:

The way I see it is I would prefer to "waste" my vote by voting for someone I actually stand behind the beliefs of rather than voting to keep a "greater evil" out of office. My party is making progress. This election we got a higher percentage than we have in the last 20 years. Definitely could have done better though. And also, it's hardly a silent protest. I've gotten in multiple arguments over the election because other people enjoy bashing me for being Libertarian. It's just the way the cookie crumbles. Either way, I'll always support someone with beliefs that I can stand behind. Gotta stand for something :D

[Knucklehead97]

 

 

 

 

I prefered Trump over Hillary but I voted for neither. Voted, still, but voted for neither. Being Libertarian I'm never happy with the way the election turns out.

So what's the point of that Knuck? It accomplishes nothing except maybe a silent protest that no one hears except yourself. But that's cool. :cheers:

I don't recall the number, he'll probably know, but if the part gets X percent of the popular vote they automatically get to participate in all? of the debates the next election. Basically, it's another big step to actually being heard, and being considered a legitimate party. Or something like that, I'm Canadian, I get confused with how your system works at times. :dunno:

I believe it is 15%. I think we were at 12% during the first vote this go round.

[yxmj]

 

Lots of countries including Canada have laws dictating how long a campaign period can be, while America doesn't. Also the amount of money they throw around for advertising probably has something to do with it

 

 

 

Maybe as Canadians we can find it easier to laugh at the reality..... (Absurdity) of it......FYI that's our guy on the left

 

[87MJTIM]

A line that would P-off most Canadians is: Canada, the 51st state.

 

Now, it may be: California, the next province.

 

Some (loonies)(not the coins) in California are calling for secession from the US: Caliexit.

 

Prior to the start of the American Civil War, a legislator from South Carolina (where it started) said that SC was too small for a country, but too large for an insane asylum.  It sounds like history repeating itself.

[Keyav8r]

We keep hearing about people (usually "celebrities") who will leave the country if (insert Republican candidate name) wins the election (didn't leave when Bush was elected, doubt they will now - just trying to get a little more publicity).

Now it's rumored that a state (or a portion of the populace) wants to exit the union and join Canada because their choice lost.

We had a contentious primary and presidential election cycle with plenty of nastiness from all parties involved. The people voted, the electoral system worked as it should, and the loser conceded.

Now we have people protesting, rioting and vandalizing property because they don't like the candidate who was elected.

My views - (a) spoiled children throwing a temper tantrum because they didn't get their way, (b) vandalizing is not a legitimate form of protest, it's a crime, © if you don't like the way the election turned out, put on your big boy and big girl panties and deal with your emotions - you'll have another shot to get your way in 4 years, and (d) if you really want to leave, go.

A lot of conservatives and Republicans were not pleased with the outcome of the previous two presidential elections but they did not resort to public demonstrations of their displeasure. They respected the will of the electorate, kept their faith in the US election process, respected the peaceful transfer of executive power, and got on with their lives.

Some policies may change, but the US will still be the beacon of freedom and the rights of all will be respected and protected.

That's my opinion. You have a right to have a different opinion. We all have a responsibility to respect the rights and property of others, freedom of speech, and the will of the people of our nation even if our political preferences are different.

[87MJTIM]

We keep hearing about people (usually "celebrities") who will leave the country if (insert Republican candidate name) wins the election (didn't leave when Bush was elected, doubt they will now - just trying to get a little more publicity).

Now it's rumored that a state (or a portion of the populace) wants to exit the union and join Canada because their choice lost.

We had a contentious primary and presidential election cycle with plenty of nastiness from all parties involved. The people voted, the electoral system worked as it should, and the loser conceded.

Now we have people protesting, rioting and vandalizing property because they don't like the candidate who was elected.

My views - (a) spoiled children throwing a temper tantrum because they didn't get their way, ( B) vandalizing is not a legitimate form of protest, it's a crime, © if you don't like the way the election turned out, put on your big boy and big girl panties and deal with your emotions - you'll have another shot to get your way in 4 years, and (d) if you really want to leave, go.

A lot of conservatives and Republicans were not pleased with the outcome of the previous two presidential elections but they did not resort to public demonstrations of their displeasure. They respected the will of the electorate, kept their faith in the US election process, respected the peaceful transfer of executive power, and got on with their lives.

Some policies may change, but the US will still be the beacon of freedom and the rights of all will be respected and protected.

That's my opinion. You have a right to have a different opinion. We all have a responsibility to respect the rights and property of others, freedom of speech, and the will of the people of our nation even if our political preferences are different.

 

We keep hearing about people (usually "celebrities") who will leave the country if (insert Republican candidate name) wins the election (didn't leave when Bush was elected, doubt they will now - just trying to get a little more publicity).

Now it's rumored that a state (or a portion of the populace) wants to exit the union and join Canada because their choice lost.

We had a contentious primary and presidential election cycle with plenty of nastiness from all parties involved. The people voted, the electoral system worked as it should, and the loser conceded.

Now we have people protesting, rioting and vandalizing property because they don't like the candidate who was elected.

My views - (a) spoiled children throwing a temper tantrum because they didn't get their way, ( B) vandalizing is not a legitimate form of protest, it's a crime, © if you don't like the way the election turned out, put on your big boy and big girl panties and deal with your emotions - you'll have another shot to get your way in 4 years, and (d) if you really want to leave, go.

A lot of conservatives and Republicans were not pleased with the outcome of the previous two presidential elections but they did not resort to public demonstrations of their displeasure. They respected the will of the electorate, kept their faith in the US election process, respected the peaceful transfer of executive power, and got on with their lives.

Some policies may change, but the US will still be the beacon of freedom and the rights of all will be respected and protected.

That's my opinion. You have a right to have a different opinion. We all have a responsibility to respect the rights and property of others, freedom of speech, and the will of the people of our nation even if our political preferences are different.

 

:clapping:  :thumbsup:  :cheers:

Edited November 11, 2016 by 87MJTIM

[gogmorgo]

I can't see Canada being hugely happy about accepting California. We wouldn't know what to do with a population and economy that huge. Lol. Plus we've been continually rejecting tiny island paradises from signing up as well. :dunno:

I'm also not convinced we want the kind of people up here who are willing to give up on their country that easily.

[Keyav8r]

Well spoken, Gogmorgo! Bravo!

[gogmorgo]

But at the same time we also aren't super excited about all the xenophobic, homophobic, racist, ignorant bigotry and hatred inspired by Trump that is triggering a large number of the protests. There are people genuinely afraid for their lives out there thanks to him, with absolutely no reason for it.

Yes there are people opposing Trump who aren't behaving like responsible adults, but there's also a bunch of people supporting Trump who aren't behaving like reasonable human beings. Not a single one of your citizens deserves to be hated and live in fear just because of the colour of their skin or who their parents are and where they came from. Yes it's a small minority of Trump supporters, but these things tend to snowball out of control very rapidly, and I hope for everyone's sake that they don't.

[Rockfrog]

Cali would have to pay the hydro bill first.

 

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[HOrnbrod]

But at the same time we also aren't super excited about all the xenophobic, homophobic, racist, ignorant bigotry and hatred inspired by Trump that is triggering a large number of the protests. There are people genuinely afraid for their lives out there thanks to him, with absolutely no reason for it.

Yes there are people opposing Trump who aren't behaving like responsible adults, but there's also a bunch of people supporting Trump who aren't behaving like reasonable human beings. Not a single one of your citizens deserves to be hated and live in fear just because of the colour of their skin or who their parents are and where they came from. Yes it's a small minority of Trump supporters, but these things tend to snowball out of control very rapidly, and I hope for everyone's sake that they don't.

 

:smart:    Cmon man...........

 

Unfortunately it's everywhere Gog. 

 

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/prejudice-and-discrimination/

 

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/out-of-sight-out-of-mind-2/

[gogmorgo]

I'm not denying that. We definitely have more than our fair share of ignorance and xenophobia, and we do an unfortunately good job of sweeping it into the corners and pretending it doesn't exist.

 

But when you have political leaders openly provoking people to incite violence against ethnic or racial groups, or supporting groups whose primary contribution to society is the perpetration of hate crimes, that's a problem, and one that a lot of people are angry about.

[big66440]

But at the same time we also aren't super excited about all the xenophobic, homophobic, racist, ignorant bigotry and hatred inspired by Trump that is triggering a large number of the protests. There are people genuinely afraid for their lives out there thanks to him, with absolutely no reason for it.

Yes there are people opposing Trump who aren't behaving like responsible adults, but there's also a bunch of people supporting Trump who aren't behaving like reasonable human beings. Not a single one of your citizens deserves to be hated and live in fear just because of the colour of their skin or who their parents are and where they came from. Yes it's a small minority of Trump supporters, but these things tend to snowball out of control very rapidly, and I hope for everyone's sake that they don't.

Right on !! :thumbsup: . I wasn't too thrilled about the outcome and agree the "protests" have to stop, those people ( protesters) have to realize their actions are not going to change anything politically and have to grow up. Just like every other country we have our ups and downs but luckily we always land on our feet and keep moving forward.

[DirtyComanche]

The real party to blame here is the mainstream media.

 

They live by selling smut, derision, and hate.  Which is what their 'contribution' to society has been for a long while now.  The plain factual truth does not sell, but racial tension, fearmongering, and manufactured drama sure does.

[cruiser54]

From a close childhood friend:

 

Wherein I will attempt to explain a few things to the whining, crying, sorely butthurt Trump-haters out there, many of whom are currently rioting, looting, and viciously assaulting passersby because for the first time in the last eight years, they didn’t get their way.

Here’s the deal: for a long, long time, but really getting cranked into high gear eight years ago, you people have been picking the pockets of the people who do the actual work in this country—as George Bailey had it, “the people who do most of the working and the paying and the living and the dying in this community”—to pay for liberal-fascist social-engineering projects they were neither asked their opinion about nor approved of. You did this as though you assumed it was your God-given right, a fundamental assertion of your supposedly superior intellect, morality, and sensitivity. They were neither consulted about nor agreed with that assertion either, and you brooked absolutely no examination of it.

You fleeced them for a huge percentage of their income, itself steadily dwindling because of those self-same socialist policies you advocated for and implemented—policies that any fool can see have never worked, that have failed every time and everywhere they’ve been tried. You made it impossible for them to eke out a living with your meddlesome, intrusive government and its regulatory overreach, which stifled the creation of new small business, the lifeblood of the American economy.

They were supposed to sit back quietly and watch without complaint as you stole freedom after freedom from them, until they were surrounded by no-smoking zones, no-free-speech zones, gun-free zones, no-liberty zones. You surveilled them with cameras on every street corner and bugs in their personal computers at home; you tracked their whereabouts via their cell phones and the GPS units in their cars, all of which was ostensibly put there to defend against an Islamist terrorism you won’t even call by its name, much less fight, because of an “Islamophobia” that is not only undefined, but which doesn’t even demonstrably exist.

Everything that was not mandatory was forbidden, according exclusively to you, in consultation with absolutely no one else, with no other input either sought or accepted.

You inhabit cities that are festering cesspools of crime, lawlessness, and disease, then start sniping our police as a direct result of the riots you ginned up in response to a handful of violent thugs being justly taken down in the process of assaults against the cops committed with deadly intent. You sit idly in a squalor, muck, and rot with which the rest of us have no desire to surround ourselves, busily trying to export it to people who don’t want it, acting as if it conferred some sort of regal, high-minded, man-bunned eminence instead of just making you look foolish for willingly sitting in a pile of $#!& you claim doesn’t stink.

A mere handful of years ago, you yourselves were opposed to the idea of ghey marriage; both Hillary and Obama explicitly stated their opposition to it, and Bill Clinton signed into law the Defense Of Marriage Act, which you now present as an evil anathema to everything right and good about America since its founding. The idea of upending an entire civilization to accommodate a minuscule, statistically insignificant class of mentally-disturbed individuals tragically confused about their actual gender wasn’t even on anybody’s radar at all. Suddenly, with a quickness that seems absolutely incredible in hindsight, those things were a cause celebrewith you, and they were quickly rammed down American throats because who we (including most of you) once were is now deemed—by you, and you alone—to be “not who we are.”

Because as you have always demonstrated so forcefully to us: “you will be made to care.” And not just care, either; no, you (meaning “we,” of course) will be made not just to tolerate (which we’re just fine with, actually) but to celebrate and exalt these aberrations and perversions, no matter how direly that may conflict with whatever traditional morality Americans may hold dear and live by ourselves.

You took what was once the most exemplary, innovative, and advanced health care system in the entire world and turned it into just another plodding, inflexible, unworkable, dysfunctional big-government bureaucracy—again, as every time, against the clearly-expressed will of the people you run roughshod over…and again, the people you expect to be forced to pay for it.

When called on any of this, you scream hysterically about a “racism, bigotry, and xenophobia” that exists only in the empty space between your ears. You sneer about trailer parks and a lack of college credentials on the part of those you so clearly hold in contempt—i.e., anybody possessing the outrageous temerity to disagree with you—who also just happen to be the ones footing the bill and taking the responsibility for every bit of your stupidity, your arrogance, your wrong-headedness, your inability to be objective or realistic. You harshly enforce absolute limits on their speech, their actions, and their very thoughts, while accepting none whatsoever on your own.

You have been arrogant, obnoxious, over-entitled, smug, supercilious, dismissive, insulting, and ultimately, insufferable. And you have been proven to be dead wrong about every last bit of nonsense you so hatefully spew at us, every @$$-backwards idea you promulgate. In the end, what you really are is inadequate, incompetent, intolerable, unnecessary, and entirely dispensable.

You’ve done all these things, and more, dragging us by force of government edict in directions we strongly desired not to go, while denouncing us in the strongest, most hateful, and most offensive and contemptuous imaginable of terms. Did you really think we were so stupidly bovine as to go on taking this abuse forever? That your cause was truly so righteous and morally correct that we would never, ever rise up in opposition to it? That we would just go on forever and ever humbly accepting the unsupported and unjustified assertion of your own natural authority over the very people who set up and carefully, laboriously maintain the system that pays for every least aspect of your inane folly—a system without which your childish self-indulgence would immediately cease to exist, like smoke in a high wind?

Well, sorry, snowflakes. Reality just came a-knocking on your door. And your sobbing, petulant, spoiled-brat reaction to it just demonstrates again that we were right to put a stop to it. As with a child throwing a kicking and screaming tantrum on Christmas morning because he didn’t find a pony under the tree, the indulgence of your foolishness—which was itself foolish on our part—has proved to be a terrible mistake, and was all along. And now the grownups are going to have to stop your squalling and thrashing around before you knock the tree over and do any more damage to the rest of the house.

Deal with it, ya punks. Or else we’ll deal even more harshly with you than we’re already going to have to. You’ve made a deplorable mess of the place, for the simple reason that you were allowed to. Now it’s time to clean it up. And cry all you want, we intend to.

[cruiser54]

and Uncle Ted has his say:

 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154158266227297&id=124016042296

[HOrnbrod]

Sorry I can't see what Uncle Ted has to say because I refuse to join Farcebook. I'm sure it was a fitting tribute for Veterans Day though.  :cheers:

[cruiser54]

Sorry I can't see what Uncle Ted has to say because I refuse to join Farcebook. I'm sure it was a fitting tribute for Veterans Day though.  :cheers:

I'm not a member either. click on the link and then the arrow for the video. I just did it.