jimoshel Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Any one here know how to get a title for a vehicle that doesn't have one? A couple years back it was possible to get one by going thru a VIN search and bond. Total cost $75. The politicians passed some laws and that is no longer possible. There are a couple places back East that does it but they want $700-$900. Just not worth it. Any help, ideas appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula69 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Going to depend on your state Jim. Here in Louisiana you can still do the bond trick. If it's from out of state we have to get an notarized affidavit from the last registered owner proving sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddmodman Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Here in Alaska, you absolutely have to send the PO a letter. If they don't respond or respond saying you can have it, you can have it. If the VIN isn't in the system at all you can go the bond route, or you can post an ad in the paper and after a month or so you can have the Newspaper sign an affidavit stating you tried to advertise it to the PO, and you can take that affidavit to the DMV, which they can turn into a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJRemi Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Here is a CL Comanche in So. Cal. which the Owner/Seller has no title for and it's actually a pretty nice truck. I would jump on it but CA is a stickler for title, even if it's to sell to a junkyard. He doesn't list an asking price but if I could get it for $300ish, I'd buy it. http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/3925706452.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketwheels Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I finally got the title for old Sgt. Rock (don't ask how long I drove it incorrectly titled, you don't really want to know). I went thru a company that performed what in essence was a "mechanics lien". I bought the truck as junk from a little old lady out of chicken shed where it had sat for over 7 years. her hubby had died, she was selling the property and goin into assisted living and apparently didn't have anyone in the family to perform Power of Attorney. She never found the title and then the Alzheimers set in so I was ruined on the original title, since she couldnt help file for "Lost Title". I was just going to buy another junker and title this truck as such with no intent on ever reselling it. Since we don't have any inspections here in 'Bama I could have gotten away with it. Lucky I found this company that could help me get the title. cost me $150 bucks total ! Each state is different, but check into companies that can do the "Mechanics Lien" or "Abandoned Vehicle", maybe they can help you out. The company I used was Jason Steward Enterprises http://salethisvehicle.com/, maybe they can steer you to someone in your state. Good Luck !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellaheep Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 In Colorado, the easiest process is to attempt to find the last registered owner and ask them to apply for a replacement title. Hopefully the vehicle you're interested in was last registered by the person selling it. It really is an easy, under $20 process for them to get a replacement title. They just need to walk into their local DMV with an old registration, expired license plates or the like. It's still possible to bond for title on a car with no title......... but it is a very time consuming, paper trail involved process and the amount of the bond depends upon a certified apprasial of the vehicle. It can't appraise for less than $500 and of course, the bond amount will be 10%-15% of the appraised value...... a portion of which will be the fee for posting the bond. The title search process can be a b*@$£ if the car wasn't last registered in Colorado. I had an '03 Caddy CTS that literally was given to me because the property owner where it was parked was selling the property and needed it gone - nice little runner/driver that had been parked for 5 years because of a "lost" Nevada title. I tried the Colorado title bond process and found it had a lien on it in Florida. Having no way to find out how to handle it from there, I hired one of those title services "GetNewTitle.com". They provided me with the lien info. I contacted the lien holding bank and they were nice enough to release the lien and sent me the necessary letter. I submitted that letter to GetNewTitle and then they discovered the vehicle was actually never owned by the family that gave it to me. It was the property of a lady that got divorced from a brother of that family...... and she was now living in another country .... with the title in her name. I had paid $900 for the title service and had to fight to get $500 of that refunded since they couldn't live up to their "guaranteed title" claim. I ended up selling that damn Caddy to a guy with a friend who own's a tow company. All he had to do was "abandon" the car, and have it towed by his friend. His friend then applied for the title as tow companies can when towed cars go unclaimed after 30 days......... and now he has a nice, crisp Colorado title......... grrrr. So yeah, lost title processes are rediculous these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellaheep Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Here is a CL Comanche in So. Cal. which the Owner/Seller has no title for and it's actually a pretty nice truck. I would jump on it but CA is a stickler for title, even if it's to sell to a junkyard. He doesn't list an asking price but if I could get it for $300ish, I'd buy it. http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/3925706452.html The photos show that truck has a set of CA license plates......... contact the person registered to those plates and offer to pay them to apply for a replacement title, then sign it over to you. Once you've secured that agreement, get go buy it and get a bill of sale from the guy that has it now (assuming those plates aren't from when he last registered it)...... but if that's the seller's registration, I don't see why he couldn't go get a replacement title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sam Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 In Colorado, the easiest process is to attempt to find the last registered owner and ask them to apply for a replacement title. Hopefully the vehicle you're interested in was last registered by the person selling it. It really is an easy, under $20 process for them to get a replacement title. They just need to walk into their local DMV with an old registration, expired license plates or the like. It's still possible to bond for title on a car with no title......... but it is a very time consuming, paper trail involved process and the amount of the bond depends upon a certified apprasial of the vehicle. It can't appraise for less than $500 and of course, the bond amount will be 10%-15% of the appraised value...... a portion of which will be the fee for posting the bond. The title search process can be a b*@$£ if the car wasn't last registered in Colorado. I had an '03 Caddy CTS that literally was given to me because the property owner where it was parked was selling the property and needed it gone - nice little runner/driver that had been parked for 5 years because of a "lost" Nevada title. I tried the Colorado title bond process and found it had a lien on it in Florida. Having no way to find out how to handle it from there, I hired one of those title services "GetNewTitle.com". They provided me with the lien info. I contacted the lien holding bank and they were nice enough to release the lien and sent me the necessary letter. I submitted that letter to GetNewTitle and then they discovered the vehicle was actually never owned by the family that gave it to me. It was the property of a lady that got divorced from a brother of that family...... and she was now living in another country .... with the title in her name. I had paid $900 for the title service and had to fight to get $500 of that refunded since they couldn't live up to their "guaranteed title" claim. I ended up selling that damn Caddy to a guy with a friend who own's a tow company. All he had to do was "abandon" the car, and have it towed by his friend. His friend then applied for the title as tow companies can when towed cars go unclaimed after 30 days......... and now he has a nice, crisp Colorado title......... grrrr. So yeah, lost title processes are rediculous these days. So that was the outcome of the outcome of that whole ordeal. Craziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellaheep Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 This stupid no title issue reared it's ugly head again today......... I was selling a gun cabinet to a lady who responded to my Craig's ad earlier today. She saw my Eliminator in the driveway and complemented it, and added "Ive got a Comanche myself. I'm not using it, would you have any interest?" Of course I would! LOL! We chatted about her MJ and she said she wasn't sure of the year, somewhere between '85-'87 and that it had a rebuilt engine in it, but it's been parked for 5+ years in her back yard and she would like to pass it on to someone who'd appreciate it. I followed her home as she lives just a few miles from me. Sure enough, behind a cedar fence/gate that hasn't been opened since it was parked behind it sat a short bed MJ. Poorly sprayed with a full covering of primer (bumpers, flares and all). Super straight body but for some reason it has 4 good sized rusted through spots along the bottom corners of the driver's side of the bed. Also had a heavy object pound up against the front of the bed pushing/bending the bed panel into the cab. The passenger side is pristine. The rockers are solid and the rest of the unibody looks great. The driver's floor board has a fist sized hole rusted through. Fenders, doors, roof, tail gate and tail lights all in fair to good shape. New windshield too. Maroon bench seat interior with good plastics and decent seat, and the usual fallen headliner fabric. Tires were new when parked, but now all 4 sitting flat and in the dirt. All said and done, it's a 1987 4.0 / 5spd P/S, P/B, A/C 4x4 truck. She said a former boyfriend and she bought it together and it sat in this spot since then. Colorado plates on it show last registration was in '05. While I really don't need another MJ...... I asked her what she'd want for it. She suggested $1,000. I told her respectfully, without it running and driving, that just wasn't realistic. She said she had no skills nor interest in tinkering on it to get it running so she countered again at $800. I told her again, not realistic given the fuel tank is going to need to be drained, the battery replaced and all fluids changed before even thinking of trying to start it. She then said, "I can understand that....... How 'bout $500". I told her that was a fair price. I asked her about the title.......... "I don't have it but I can get it." I ask her to clarify and she says "My ex stole all my vehicle keys and titles when he left so I can just go get a replacement title". This explained the punched ignition cylinder....... But having been down this road before, I asked "So, the title he took...... it was in your name?" "No. I bought it, but we put the title in his name." :wall: I then proceeded to explain that the DMV won't care who paid for it, the only person that can get a replacement title would be the last registered owner. Needless to say, she was pretty disappointed. Since Colorado law allows the property owner to dispose of vehicle abandoned after 30 days, (and in this case 8 years) I offered to buy it as a parts truck for $300 which she declined "at this time" but said she may call me in the future if she can't get more for it. Which means this truck will end up at the local U-Pull & Pay. So unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankTheDog Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 If she lives that close to you, pop in now and then and ask her how it's going. Don't let it get away, even if it's just for parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellaheep Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Small world as it is....... while chatting with this lady, she's good friends with one of the guys I work with and she seemed more interested in the thought of my getting the truck over just scrapping it. She is on disability with two teen age boys so she's concerned about getting much needed funds for the truck. We'll see. She's a friggin' pack rat too. She had 15 or so antique farm implements hauled from her father's farm in Ohio to her back yard, She has 3 sheds full of stuff to include a fairly large collection of 80's dirt bikes and parts that her 1st husband was into. She also has a really clean, low mileage (90K) 1990 Cherokee Laredo that's sitting just ahead of the Comanche. She said she loves that Jeep but can't afford to fix it's issues (never got to what those were, but she said it runs, just doesn't drive well.... :dunno: ) .......... maybe I'll chat her up about that a bit more, perhaps I can barter repair of the Cherokee for the MJ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64 Cheyenne Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 This is why you should buy/acquire any non-running MJ with a title, even if its been wrecked or has too far gone body cancer. Take the important parts... Dispose the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 No junk yard, auto salvage yard or P&P will accept a vehicle without a title in Colorado. Been there. Tried that. If the vehicle is dismantled enough then the crusher will take it without a title. This is why you should buy/acquire any non-running MJ with a title, even if its been wrecked or has too far gone body cancer. Take the important parts... Dispose the rest. Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92tanMJ Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Here in ohio you just do to the DMV and get a new one. Its like 75 bucks. Just did one the last week all you need is proof of ownership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 What constitutes proof of ownership? An old registration slip? A signed note from mommy? The local reverend vouching for you? A bill of sale? If all it takes is a bill of sale, let me send you a bill of sale, notarized, and you go down and get me a title. I will reimburse you any and all expenses plus a couple bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnuck Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I have a Honcho with title and the PO passed away so the state won't allow me to transfer it because the right to sign from someone ceases when they die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 In Ohio you need to have a registration in your name to obtain a new title. The new title will also state it is a duplicate, so if somebody else comes up with an original title to your vehicle, theirs trumps yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpace6a Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 All it has to do is sit on your property X number of years and, so long as you can prove it, its yours. Dunno how you prove that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnuck Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 photos and a signed certification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92tanMJ Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 All we needed was a letter from the bank saying that we paid the lean off and own it but my dad my have kept me out of the loop on a thing or two so I may have missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 A letter from the bank would mean there was a title but it had a lien against it. The letter would show the loan had been payed and the lien was removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92tanMJ Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Yep. But I don't know lean is the proper word..I guess it would just be loan, since my parents got it from a dealer back in '97. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Lien is the official word used when owed money is associated with the vehicle. Typically it's when someone financed the vehicle and quit making payments, or they could have used the vehicle as collateral some other kind of loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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