ftpiercecracker1 Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 So why on earth would you waste your time with our "dinky" 4.0?? Even with the cost for adapting it to a jeep, the sheer power gain would seem to make this a no brainer? Or am i being blinded by the 1000hp and neglecting the fact they might only produce a couple hundred torques? BTW that is one monstrous turbo on the first video, i mean DAMN!
HOrnbrod Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 While semi impressive of course, as you say mountainman, it's not hard with today's technology and it's commonplace. The tricky (read super expensive) part is building a four cylinder engine to last for a 500 miler and dominate for decades, with all the pit stops, accidents, etc. involved was reliability. Only the Offenheiser-Miller engine ever did that. They were killed by technology as all things eventually are. The V8 Ford Cosworth engine that eventually became it's equal in endurance but had 33% more HP took control in the early 70's. I was fortunate enough to attend a few Indy 500s back in the day, and the scream of an Offy at full RPM is something I'll never forget.
JENSSEN Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 I would like more info on how they prepped the suspension and what parts they used. I see a mono leaf and sway bar in the rear
neohic Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 I would like more info on how they prepped the suspension and what parts they used. I see a mono leaf and sway bar in the rear Fiberglass leafs with aluminum bushing seats bolted at the ends in the rear along with the blocks and XJ shackles to lower it further. Not sure what the sway bar is off of. In the front, they used custom spun coils. That front axle isn't the race ready unit either. They cut between the control arm mounts and the knuckle to set the camber to get them to corner just right. There are rumors that they cut and dropped the axle in the middle for clearance. As far as I've found, they did not but there are plenty of action pictures that look as though they did however it's just the tranny cross member.
JENSSEN Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 I need to do more research it seems that setup would be great for my 88 4 banger manche :)
jimoshel Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 So why on earth would you waste your time with our "dinky" 4.0?? Even with the cost for adapting it to a jeep, the sheer power gain would seem to make this a no brainer? Or am i being blinded by the 1000hp and neglecting the fact they might only produce a couple hundred torques? BTW that is one monstrous turbo on the first video, i mean DAMN! BTW that is one monstrous turbo on the first video, i mean DAMN! That's not a turbo. It's a siren. warning people to get the h*ll outta the way.
JENSSEN Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 I have had numerous thoughts about fitting one of my Ford 2.3 Turbo motors in a manche,.. In my Turbocoupe I was making 250ish HP with minor mods and getting 30+ MPG on the hiway,..
HOrnbrod Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 The bidding has ground to a halt................
jimoshel Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 It's still way below my maximum bid. The thing on this is after the feeding frenzy of the opening bids it will be quite for awhile. Then in the closing minutes some lurker, who never even bid, until now, springs out of the darkness and grabs it up. Or maybe nobody wins and it just fades back into oblivion for another time period.
Alexia Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 It's still way below my maximum bid. The thing on this is after the feeding frenzy of the opening bids it will be quite for awhile. Then in the closing minutes some lurker, who never even bid, until now, springs out of the darkness and grabs it up. Or maybe nobody wins and it just fades back into oblivion for another time period. Bidding before the last minute on an eBay auction is a waste of time and just drives the price up.
vaquaro Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Fiberglass leafs with aluminum bushing seats bolted at the ends in the rear along with the blocks and XJ shackles to lower it further. Not sure what the sway bar is off of. In the front, they used custom spun coils. That front axle isn't the race ready unit either. They cut between the control arm mounts and the knuckle to set the camber to get them to corner just right. There are rumors that they cut and dropped the axle in the middle for clearance. As far as I've found, they did not but there are plenty of action pictures that look as though they did however it's just the tranny cross member. Back in the day ....SCCA suspension rules allowed : replacing OEM with any material attached to stock mounting points AND any additional suspension components you wished to add ! I campaigned A Datsun 1200 in C-Sedan with Teflon rear leafs , Zeed for tire clearance and a 4 link with adjustable coil-overs front and back .Since the 1200 was basically a BMC knock-off , we used dual "SU" side-draft carbs , tuned headers, roller cam ,dry sump ,and got 150 hp to the rear wheels @ 8000 rpm . Yes we did grenade a few engines in the process, but we sure gave those " Mini"s a run for the money !
neohic Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Nope... same story as last time. :doh: At least we still know where it's at for now.
Exxon Valdez Jeep Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Somebody out-bid me with 8 seconds left. I had a higher price typed in ready to go, but then I remembered that long, terrible drive out to Abilene and didnt submit the bid! uh well, that much more money for my MJ!
87Warrior Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230870245775 Again. I am surprised it only went to $1,100. Figured somebody would put down $2,500. At least that is what I believe it should sell for.
ComancheKid45 Posted October 24, 2012 Author Posted October 24, 2012 Idk for a 4cyl 2wd that needs completly restored.....$2500 seems alittle steep even if it is a Race truck. I admire the history behind it but most probably just see a 2wd 4cyl Jeep.
Exxon Valdez Jeep Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Yeah its pretty cool, but I could slap the same paint job on my non-rolled truck and be further ahead IMHO, it just wouldnt have the "history"...
Sir Sam Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 the race motor was replaced by the 4 banger so his son could drive it, the race motor is still available seperatly. My wife told me no many times...even after the puppy dog eyes...I've lost my edge :no: It's easier to bed for forgiveness than ask permission. I also have a nice couch.
neohic Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Surprised this hasn't been posted again. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Archer-Brothers-Championship-Jeep-/230879258949?pt=Race_Cars_Not_Street_Legal_&hash=item35c179e945#ht_500wt_1183
jimoshel Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Not even going to bid on it this time. If they want me to have it, they're going to have to bring up here and give it to me. :yes:
87Warrior Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Shoot, for $4500 it should include the old race motor!
ComancheKid45 Posted November 14, 2012 Author Posted November 14, 2012 Yeah, the price is kinda steep for the condition its in......its still sooooo cool though!
HOrnbrod Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 I think you can list four vehicles per year for free on Ebay. Then they sock it to you on listing fees. So what's this, the 3rd time he's listed it? Won't be seeing it for too much longer........
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