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Paul Bruchal
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My Comanche cough fire on the way home from a job interview today. I had 2 rags in between the cross member and my exhaust, I for got to take down, and it was smoking. I pulled over to see what the smell was and when I moved the rags to pull them down, it ignited, flames.

I was like....... F*ck!! what now.

I went over to a sleeping truck driver "he said no problem on waking him up" ask him if he had a fire extinguisher and he did. He got the fire out and I pulled the rags out. Turns out that I didnt need them after all lol.

 

But do any of you guys have fire extinguishers in your rides? What brands do you have?

I'm thinking on getting a small one from Walmart for $20-30.

The ones I see on Jeep websites are going for $100+ and I don't know why.

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I "had" a Walmart one after the same thing happened to me. Then some one took it out of my tool box :fs1: but it seemed like the right size to have for the MJ and for the price its a worth while investment.

 

Brandon

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Mine is in the cab normally (my back wall has a layer of 3/4" plywood so I can hang all sorts of things off it), but while on the trail I move it to a place where anyone could reach it. (the big steel extinguisher can also be used, but I carry it more for cleaning out my previous drum brakes or whatever needs a short power wash after mudding)

 

a note: I've been told that long term storage on their side can be detrimental to their proper functioning.

 

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I grabbed on after I had some smoke floating around my cab. turned out a mouse made a nest in my heater box right up against the resistor. grabbed on at walmart and have had it floating around the cab until I can find a better place to mount it. also if you have it for a while I heard that you should shake it up to get the chemicals mixed up again. I guess the bumps when driving compacts the chemicals to the lower side of the extinguisher and could cause it not to work properly.

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I have a little cheap one. One of my wheeling buddies (also into racing) said I should get an automotive one not just a marine or household one. He said the ones for cars one ruin wiring :dunno: something about halon? might be worth looking into

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I'm thinking of mounting mine on the front pillar on the passenger side. or on the floor next to the driver side door.

 

Until I can invest again into a extinguisher that is safe for car wiring, I'm going to stick with the Walmart one I just bought, its a ABC.

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Mine is in the cab normally (my back wall has a layer of 3/4" plywood so I can hang all sorts of things off it), but while on the trail I move it to a place where anyone could reach it. (the big steel extinguisher can also be used, but I carry it more for cleaning out my previous drum brakes or whatever needs a short power wash after mudding)

 

a note: I've been told that long term storage on their side can be detrimental to their proper functioning.

 

Id like to know why,,, long term storage on their side can be detrimental to their proper functioning.

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I've got a nice waterproof equipment box in the back of my xj that houses my tow straps, d rings, reciever/balls, jumper cables (multiple in case I need to jump that car waaaay over there), fire extinguisher, and enough fluids to fill everything in my jeep as well as a trail recovery set in case I need to randomly drain something. craftsman 400pc tool set in another tool box with necessary tools added, and always carry a spare t-stat.

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Mine is in the cab normally (my back wall has a layer of 3/4" plywood so I can hang all sorts of things off it), but while on the trail I move it to a place where anyone could reach it. (the big steel extinguisher can also be used, but I carry it more for cleaning out my previous drum brakes or whatever needs a short power wash after mudding)

 

a note: I've been told that long term storage on their side can be detrimental to their proper functioning.

 

Id like to know why,,, long term storage on their side can be detrimental to their proper functioning.

 

If they're dry powder, it tends to become a solid block over time. There's a standpipe running down the middle of the cylinder, and the powder only fills half of the cylinder; so in a worst case scenario you'll turn it upright and only the CO2 charge will come out, with now powder. If you leave a dry powder sideways for a long time, turn it upright and smack it on the ground before you use it.

 

At least, that's what I was told when I took my aircraft fire fighting course... And having taken apart an old dry powder extinguisher I believe it. This would all also be avoided by sending the extinguishers out on a bi-annual basis for recharging.

 

Also, they dry powder ones are not all the same. Purple K is the stuff to get, if you can find it. I used it to put out a Jet-A fire, and was amazed at what it can do. However, if you use it, vacuum the $#!& out of everything post-fire, then wash it the best you can with soapy water, then baking soda and water. If you use it inside a cab, you're going to have to pull everything apart to clean it. I don't think the Purple K stuff was supposed to be as corrosive as the others, but all of the dry powder stuff is.

 

Halon is ridiculously expensive. It does work well. That's what the most expensive small extinguishers are. It also stores well, providing nothing leaks (IE, a seal doesn't go).

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Yeah Ive got one. I'm on my second one after a grass fire under my jeep. I got stuck in a dry ditch and the exhaust was sitting on the ground and caught it one fire! It was an ancient old fire extinguisher but it saved my jeeps butt!!!! I have a pretty large one I always keep behind my seat now.

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halon is now illegal at least in canada. its highly toxic and can kill you

 

It's not illegal, but it's not exactly legal either. You can still buy halon extinguishers, but I don't know if you can as an individual anymore... We buy them all the time at work, as the only thing approved for use in an aircraft is halon. All of them are only filled with 'recycled' halon, as it's now illegal to manufacture halon.

 

Also, it's not really toxic... But it will kill you. It binds with the oxygen in the air and makes it inert. You can suffocate yourself by simply spraying it in a confined area. Yet, oddly, it's what they want you to use if you're flying around. :dunno: It's also horrible for the ozone layer, which is why they banned manufacturing of it.

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When I had my bucket seats I had a mount by the bottom of the door that worked pretty well. After I put in the bench the mount wouldn't wouldn't any more. It's usually jammed in between the seat and door trim or behind the seat. Really need to make a new mount though....

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So how long is too long for leaving it side ways..... I just installed mine today.

 

Take if off every oil change, check that it's still charged, and give it a shake... :dunno: I think it would be fine, and pretty easy to remember that type of a maintenance schedule.

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Years and years ago,

they pulled all the Halon extinguishers off the shelves in stores.

 

They limited the sale of Halon since it's a chlorofluorocarbon, and kills ozone, chemically very close to old school Freon.

 

For years after, I'd check the fire extinguisher shelves, for dusty old boxes,

of Halon extinguishers.

 

Eventually, lots of them made their way back onto the shelf, clearanced for pennies on the original prices.

 

I picked up 5 or 6 Kiddy 4 pounders over the years like this,

usually for under $5. :yes:

 

Also, when we demo computer rooms, I keep an eye out for them. (those are bigger, but tough to come by).

 

I keep a 4lb in each car, in the kitchen, and a 20 pounder for when I weld.

 

There's no clean up with Halon, they work awesome,

and it's only a breathing danger if you release it in a confined area.

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