freakjeep93 Posted December 25, 2009 Author Share Posted December 25, 2009 thanks man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 alright its +5 today I'm gonna dig er out and do some work on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueXJ Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Any more snow expected in the next few days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 nope rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 its off the jacks now gunna take the boxoff next time I'm workin on er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Pics of progress? Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancome433 Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I just went through every single page and read most of the posts, and I'm not going to criticize you on anything, I know how that goes and I hate it when people do it to me. I'm all for saving mjs or any jeep worth anything really, but man you gotta let this one go. Part it out, use most of it to build your other one, drivetrain swap, but there is just way too much work in this thing to get it going properly and safely and in the end it really won't be worth it. By the time you get this one going you could have saved the money and time and finished the other one. I know you want to save this one and Ive been there done that plenty of times, but take it from somebody who learned the hard way, let it go. And I know about good memories in a car, I was driving my tj even before I got my license and now 4 years later after everything Ive been through with it I had to let it go because of difficulties with the finacing company. I'm not criticizing you for trying to save it or anything, I'm just telling you its not worth it. You have another one that looks to be in much better shape even though its a 4cyl. My advice just finish the other one, I went through that build thread also, and from the pics that one looks like a better truck to get it going than this one. Between this one and your blue one you can get the 4cyl one going in no time, with a 6vyl motor. I just don't think you should waste your time on this one. With that being said if you continue to try to save this one, all I have to say is good luck man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 I just went through every single page and read most of the posts, and I'm not going to criticize you on anything, I know how that goes and I hate it when people do it to me. I'm all for saving mjs or any jeep worth anything really, but man you gotta let this one go. Part it out, use most of it to build your other one, drivetrain swap, but there is just way too much work in this thing to get it going properly and safely and in the end it really won't be worth it. By the time you get this one going you could have saved the money and time and finished the other one. I know you want to save this one and Ive been there done that plenty of times, but take it from somebody who learned the hard way, let it go. And I know about good memories in a car, I was driving my tj even before I got my license and now 4 years later after everything Ive been through with it I had to let it go because of difficulties with the finacing company. I'm not criticizing you for trying to save it or anything, I'm just telling you its not worth it. You have another one that looks to be in much better shape even though its a 4cyl. My advice just finish the other one, I went through that build thread also, and from the pics that one looks like a better truck to get it going than this one. Between this one and your blue one you can get the 4cyl one going in no time, with a 6vyl motor. I just don't think you should waste your time on this one. With that being said if you continue to try to save this one, all I have to say is good luck man. yea right now I'm sorta just playing with this at the moment but i am going to keep working on it because i consider it fun and i need to do alot of work to the other one thatwould take more time then what I'm doing nowon this jeep so I'm just gunna keep playing with this. Pics of progress? Rob L. Pics of progress? Rob L. i got another bit of bracing on yesterday but its just one stip of metal welded on so its not much for ppics. but today I'm going to take the box off and do more work so i will get pics then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 okay i snapped a couple pics this mornin . i havnt realy started working on er yet i just cleaned the bcak of it out so i could take the bed off. anyway here is one of the braces on the right side . don't harpon me for my welding this time i its only bubbly because i went over it twick to fill in a few holes i burned. and here's what the inside of my bed looks like without the bedliner the holes are from last time taking the bed off rusty bolts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 okay i got quite abit done today well not a whole lot but a lot for me . beds off the frame is seperating here my patch plate burned in hows it look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrusty Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 youll find your welds will come out much better and have better penetration if you clean the area your welding first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC-MJ Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 shoot i only had 2 rusty doors, a rotten floor and few holes in each bed side above the wheel's. . .Fenders gotta go but not due to rust they are dented n bent up more then i care to fix . . . Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 youll find your welds will come out much better and have better penetration if you clean the area your welding first. :agree: Get that grinder goin'! Rob L. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 if you're not going to weld properly, don't do it at all. going over it quick to just "fill in the gaps" on welds that we've all agreed are not good in the first place is just halfassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 x3 on the cleaning. You MUST clean the rust and paint and everything else off the areas to be welded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 and I see vertical weld points (you chose to ignore the advice to remove the cab corners as they need to be). I don't see any fisheyes nor anything that will help remove shear points. your spot welds didn't look too bad....not too keen on the rest of them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 and I see vertical weld points (you chose to ignore the advice to remove the cab corners as they need to be). I don't see any fisheyes nor anything that will help remove shear points. your spot welds didn't look too bad....not too keen on the rest of them though. AW CRAP! i forgot about that. anyway it doesnt really matter because now I'm just fixing it to be and offroad truck because i found more frame damage but i WILL do it on the one i make tomorrow. :wall: and i was welding to clean metal today if you're not going to weld properly, don't do it at all. going over it quick to just "fill in the gaps" on welds that we've all agreed are not good in the first place is just halfassed. i wasnt filling in gaps in those welds that was on the other side . i did a weld and it was nice but i burnt through on the edges so i put it on lower heat and went over it again to fix where it burnt through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 and no i followed eagles advice where he said to cut and notch around the bbody mount which i did and i didnt really completly finish welding it all the way in today and that includes the ends so ill fish eye them with a grinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 I hate to keep beating you up here, But you really need to listen. All this effort will be completely wasted!! Even tho this is off road only, it will be just as useless when it snaps in to first time you flex it!! Making it for off road only eliminates damage to innocent bystanders, your still driving this thing and your still making and investment here. PLEASE take the time to do it rite. Here is some pics from when I did mine. Please notice the lack of full width 90 degree welds and the clean steel both on the frame and the patch panels. Take your time and do it rite the first time, maybe it will last a bit longer for you to enjoy once your done. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 wow that frame of yours is clean :eek: . anyway i wish i will someday find metal in this rea that is that clean it is almost not possible to get metal that clean without paying much more than i can offord. right now I'm just learning and its starting too look like this will be an offroad truck but I'm still going to clean it up and fix body panels and all that stuff and try inspecting it once i finish but its looking like it will be offroad only. and i will keep taking advice. i must ask though have my welds improved much since tha last batch of pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 BEFORE!! My frame was no where near as clean as this when the bed first came off!! An hour with a wire brush and wheel removed most of the scale. Then a 60grit flap wheel on my grinder cleaned the frame steel to almost a mirror. Believe me, this goes a LONG WAY to good looking and performing welds!!! I'm lucky to have a good steel yard about a mile away. But 90% of what I buy is scrap overages sold for 1$ a pound. I just have to wait sometimes for the exact material I'm looking for to come in. If I cannot wait, I pay full cost. In this case, I paid for the bottom cap to be made up and got the rest as scrap. Remember this, Anything worth doing, is worth doing correctly. You could have the best setup and skills creating a bead, if your steel isn't clean you won't get good looking or performing welds. I cannot express this strongly enough. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 i was weldong on clean steel today no paint coating or rust on it i swear to you. i use a high heat and no extesion cord because i got the truck close enough so i didnt need it .i think my welding was much better this time than before . and i only got flashed once and lit myself on fire once too.LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 i was welding on clean steel today no paint coating or rust on it i swear to you. i use a high heat and no extension cord because i got the truck close enough so i didn't need it .i think my welding was much better this time than before . and i only got flashed once and lit myself on fire once too.LOL LOL, I have two good scars. One on each biceps from weld slag dripping on me and burning Thur my shirts. they both look like someone put a cigarette out on my arms, almost in the same spot on each arm. My left arm has been burned like this a couple times. Comes from welding upside down.... FUN STUFF!!! What is your machines specs and what wire are you using? Solid or flux core? What is your gas mix if solid wire? CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 I'm using flux core .(0.30 at the moment) the duty cycle is 40% at 80 amps i think something like that . crap i can't remember all the specs illl post them tomorrow . i do know its got 4 heat settings and upp to 10 wire speed .don't remember much else . its a mastercraft welder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 40% duty cycle is good, but 80Amps is low... Sounds like a 110V unit. (Mine is too Mine is a Hobart 140 115V 140A machine) If so your at or very near the max you can do with that machine. The flux core will burn hotter and get you better penetration. Be sure you have the pos ground setup properly for the flux core wire... If you need more and your machine will handle .035 wire it will be hotter for you. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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