i gotta blow off some steam......

[freakjeep93]

forgive me guys but i gotta rant for a min about some stuff.

first off i know some of you are parent and maby a couple are tennagers like me but i have a question. Is it normall for parent to bug you and spend all their time on the compter looking at you sschool marks on the computer because thats what my parents have been doin lately like tonight my dad comes in abd starts freaking at me about my physics mark which is 40%. hes sayin stuff like I'm gunna take away your atv(which he has no right to since i own all off it ) and take away my computer (i don't know why) if my marks don't get better. well ive checked and my physics mark hasnt changed for about 2 ad a half weeks because my teacher hasnt marked the 2 assignments and 2 tests ive done since then so my mark will likely gp up since i got help with the assingments.I'm amazed dad hasnt noticed that I'm not that bright and i deffinatly haveso i don't know.. anyway theres my rant for the night :rant: so if I'm in a bad mood for the next little while you;; know he hasnt gotten off my back.

[Akula69]

Don't take this wrong...

 

 

But yes, I check my son's grades all the time, usually when he is looking over my shoulder. Some of his teachers are also slow to post up grades, and we do get into difficult discussions about his progress.

 

However, as I have explained to him, school is one of the most important things that you will ever do, besides being a lot more fun then going to work every day. I know you probably don't believe that now, but when you have the time to look back on it you will realize its true.

 

I can't explain why your father is making the dire threats to you...it might be because he is concerned about your progress, or it might be because he misunderstood you in the past when you tried to tell him that they would get better and they did not (for whatever reason).

[dakal]

x2

[pitbull4x4]

I check my 14 year old sons grades about every 2 days. He lives with his mom and she does not tell me anything about how he is doing in school. I do have e-mail with his teachers and they let me know what he is working on for the weekend that I have him. Your mom and dad care about how you are doing in school. They want you to get good grades. Maybe they did not do well in school and want you to get better grades than them. If your grades are late at posting have your teachers e-mail mom and dad and tell them what your new grades are. It will show them your are getting better grades.

[jpdocdave]

my oldest boy is in 1st grade, he's in a private Christian school, and i'm not wealthy, its a struggle, but its important for us. all his school work is sent home every week in an envelope, and he gets basically a daily report where there's marks for any misbehavior, or a mark for all good. he is not allowed to have bad marks, and whatever he doesn't do right in school gets redone when it comes home.

 

i was a smart student, i graduated in the top 20% of my class and i barely tried. rarely did i do homework, and projects were done the night before, and i got A's and B's. no one held me accountable beyond a certain point. now if i had c's or below my parents weren't happy, but after that they left me alone. if i was held more accountable, or held more to my potential i know i could've done more.

 

i think its very imporatant for parents to be involved in their child's life. and you better believe any boy of mine that is failing a class will have no atv, computer, tv, and whatever else you can think of.

 

hope that helps :D

[Automan2164]

Same here, school is very important, and like Dave, I coasted through on auto-pilot, barely trying to pay attention, and procrastinated on everything. I got A's and B's. Graduated early. My mom was a stickler... An off the boat German woman, about 5 foot tall... No give with her. Computer was taken away, TV, you name it... All she required was B's or better, and gave me $100 if I had a 4.0 GPA quarterly.

 

But you best believe when I went to tech school, on MY DIME, I made the best of that. I graduated 2nd in class overall, taking top of the class 13-15 times in subjects. At UTI, they gave you a pin for top of subject... And put them on your ID... By the time I graduated, I had the nickname of "The General" because of all of my top of phase pins...

 

Bottom line, tough love is best. A 40% isn't even kinda failing... Its epic failing. My mom would have burned me at the stake if I bought home a 40%. Be lucky all that your folks are taking away are an ATV and some TV privilages... It may be your TV, but its most likely THEIR HOUSE. If I had a kid, and said its my TV, I would say you can take that TV and hit the bricks.

 

Rob L.

[KYMJ]

It's what us parents are supposed to do. We're responsible for your well being. How about doing well for yourself, don't cop out with the "I'm now bright comment". Akula is right, you'll figure it out someday. How about figuring it out now, You'll be glad you did. Good luck!

[Geonovast]

Physics is not an easy subject. It's not something that most people "just get". All the physics classes I took, most of it I didn't understand. Force charts were waaay over my head and probably always will be. But that doesn't understand material can't be understood. It's all about how you understand it. After reading, and reading about it, even looking at pictures, I didn't quite get how a manual transmission worked. About 30 seconds after I opened one up and move the parts around, I knew exactly how it worked.

 

My advice is, go talk to your teachers about it. See if you can stay after school a couple days and tackle it one-on-one with them. They might have a different approach you can try.

 

Everybody learns differently. You could tell me directions on how to drive somewhere until you're blue in the face, but it wouldn't help. I have to have a map.

[JeepcoMJ]

at the same time, what parent honestly cares what their kid's grade is in physics.

 

 

how many kids grow up (or even want to be) physicists? it's obvious you don't, or your interest would be shown by at least a passing grade.

 

 

I, like jpdocdave, graduated with pretty good marks...but I pretty much only did homework my freshman year. and even then, it was always late. after that, I pretty much did everything the night before, for projects...I couldn't screw over a group on a project.

 

my parents cared, but I did not...I did get a fair amount of nc's (F's), and I got in as much or more trouble as you...but the college classes I was taking by junior year outweight that when it came to gpa etc.

 

 

I gotta say, i understand where your parents are coming from, and also where you're coming from...just live with the results of your mistakes and do your best. prove them wrong if you feel they are (but I bet you'll find it pretty hard to prove your parents wrong when it comes to your education)

[whowey]

I'm also going to go down in the category of people you don't want to hear from.

 

I have 4 kids... a 13 year old, a 8 year old and a 2 year old twins.

 

I check the grades of my older kids every week. They are expected to have grades that are equivalent to their respective abilities. My teen has been on the Honor roll since she started receiving grades and therefore is expected to continue that. My 8 year old has had some challenges since he started school and his grades are expected to show his continued work on those issues. These goals are non-negotiable. Our teachers are slow updating grades also... It has lead to some rough discussions on Friday evenings. And some discipline because of those posted grades.

 

Two reasons for this rules. First.. my wife and I were polar opposites in school..I put for virtually no effort in school and I graduated on the high honor roll with a National Honor Society membership. My wife tried VERY hard, but was not successful. Her parents did not give a darn what she did as long as she wasn't drug home by the police or the truant officers. She struggled mightily with no support from anyone and barely graduated. We don't want our children to go through these types of struggles.

 

Second, (and you are going to HATE this) as a young-in you need boundaries, restrictions, limits and expectations on your behavior, actions and the way you lead your life. As parents we only get a handful of years to get you in shape,trained, educated and ready to deal with the reality that the world really sucks. We have alot of things to teach you and such a short time to do it, we need to take drastic measures at times. Sometimes when things don't go right, the situation escalates a little too much.

[mythreesons]

Enough of the parental explanations (as my user name suggests, I AM one of THEM)................... check pitbull4X4's sig line. Prove him wrong! I dare you! I double-dog dare you!!! :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

 

Scott

 

P.S. You never know when or where you might use parts of your education. Physics has a little more limited direct application to the career thing, but indirect application's are numerous throughout our lives. In rebuilding a MJ, I bet you use a LOT of physics, geometry, etc. Probably expand your language as well, then again maybe learning how to cuss in new ways don't count. :D

[pilotblake]

I love physics, what more interesting thing is out there knowledge wise. What can't you do with physics. Putting a pipe on a breaker bar is a use of physics. Pretty much everything we do to our jeeps involve physics. No I am not a nerd, but knowledge is power. I was a shi# growing up but I always took my education seriously. Same with college, I partied with the best of them, but still graduated a realtivley tough degree with a high GPA. Have fun with life, but always be looking out for your future. Man I am getting old.

[dasbulliwagen]

I beleive I lie somewhere in the middle of all this being that I'm 36 and just now have my first kid. I still remember those high school days, but Ive yet to deal with the kid and her grades.

 

I myself just squeeked by in high school. Its not that I was stupid, its just that I wasnt motivated. My parents didnt care too much as long as I wasnt failing, and at that time, you got an update in the mail quarterly, unless you were really screwing up. I only really screwed up once failing spanish class. I asked my parents to let me out of it, but I don't think they understood at time. I failed the class and they asked me later if I could have gotten out of it and into something else, and I told them I tried that but they had nothing of it... oh well.

 

The classes that interested me were the ones I did good in. Auto shop, and science, and art. Auto shop is obvious, but science, earth science, physical science (not physics), geology was always easy for me. I know its all different now with requirements and such, but if you are able you can try to tailor your class choices so that you have your basic requirements and also classes you know you will be able to do good in. I think my junior and senoir year was 3 hours of auto shop, 1 hour teacher/office assistant, 1 hour english, and 1 hour gym.

 

I know too that if you don't like the teacher or their style it can be different too. I had an english teacher once that never set due dates... so I never did the work. I got an E in the class, a C+ on my final exam and passed the class with a D-. I needed boundaries then... goals to work toward to at least be some sort of motivation for me do the things I had no interest in. It really is good for you!

 

After high school I went to Nashville Auto Diesel College and was on the honor roll the whole time graduated with a 3.6 GPA Associates Degree in Automobile Collision Repair and Refinishing Technology. I worked in body shops for 2 or 3 years before getting asthma bad enough to make me quit body work. And then five years ago I had a chance to go back to school again, this time for auto mechanics. I graduated top of my class with a 4.0 GPA Associates Degree in Automotive Systems Technology and am currently on the college advisory commitee for the automotive program.

 

Youll understand all that we are telling better as you get older. It will make more sense when you are on the other side of the argument... until then just try your best!

[dakal]

i grew up on the streets. the only thing that pushed me was getting loaded. i would of been saved a lot of heart ache if someone was there to push me in the right direction, because i didn't care.

 

my three kids had me in their corner every day. now they would make any parent proud!!!!!!

 

listen to your dad. he loves you and he's trying to spare you grief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Rockyrider367]

I am wi the origional host. I to am in school and have had the same issues. I actualy have been "yelled at" (for lack of a better word) because of the same things. My teachers have not always been the fastest at getting the grades in and most of the time my dad will understand. but I also have gotten things such as my truck and snowmobile taken away for having bad grades. bad being a C sometimes. but now I am in college and i can't understand why a little bit more but some parents realy need to find other ways to get their point across instead of threats and itimidation.

[dakal]

thats true, in a perfect world. you'll get it when you have kids. in a perfect world...

[dasbulliwagen]

I am wi the origional host. I to am in school and have had the same issues. I actualy have been "yelled at" (for lack of a better word) because of the same things. My teachers have not always been the fastest at getting the grades in and most of the time my dad will understand. but I also have gotten things such as my truck and snowmobile taken away for having bad grades. bad being a C sometimes. but now I am in college and i can't understand why a little bit more but some parents realy need to find other ways to get their point across instead of threats and itimidation.

 

Give us some sugestions... what will work best for you to be motivated to do better and keep your parents off your back at the same time? For some hard headed individuals, threats and intimidation are all that will get the point across. What would work better????

[dakal]

great question

[jpdocdave]

yes, threats and intimidation are not good if thats all there is. a parent needs to explain and make the student understand why they are losing priveledges, and what failing at something now means later, and the impact school has on your life.

 

and just so you don't think i'm some stail old guy that doesn't understand, i'm a father of 2 but i'm still in my 20's, i'm not out of touch as teenagers like to use as an excuse.

 

lets address physics, you don't like it, thats fine. and i had the same attitude at your age about stuff i didin't like. i hated geometry, said i'd never use it. now i'm trying to advance metal fabrication skills, and my weak geometry really pisses me off. but thats besides the point, back to more life long relevance here. so you don't think you'll ever use physics, and maybe you won't. but think of it like this, you will grow up and get a job. do you think in the work force there is never something you are asked to do that is a little out of your field, or comfort zone? it happens all the time. sucking it up, and doing good at whatever class you're in now is what you have to do to be prepared for real life. at your job you have to be able to do what your employer needs you to do, and if you can't, its more than failing, you get fired.

 

and that is what you're parents are trying to instill in you now. now its an atv and tv. failure is not an option in the real world, and you will be paying a harder price the rest of your life for what you do now.

[Rockyrider367]

For me some kind of positive insentive always worked so much more. granted sometime you do need to be stern but what realy worked for me was if I did well then he would help me work or modify my truck. Or this past winter as long as my grades were over a B he would let me use his truck to haul my sled around to go ridding. Things like that always worked better. They actualy made want to do better to get not just the good grades but also the extra satifaction that i had worked for something other than a "good job". It dosent have to cost money or keep you from your life just something that will make them glad to strive forward and not something that makes them affraid to fail.

[HOrnbrod]

I'm not even getting into this; oh well maybe a little. But if I did it would be a multipage. If your parents are paying for your edumacation, or even if you're still in HS and you get pissed when they check your grades and "yell" at you because you are screwing up and/or not working, that's all good. They simply want the best for you. And this concept should be easy enough to understand for even the programmed instant gradification w/o work youngsters of today. If your parents stop yelling at you and being concerned, them you should start worrying. :smart:

[Oizarod115]

physics is one of those classes you either get, or you don't... in my high school physics class i was the only one that seemed to just GET it. everyone else was frustrated at best, and hated the entire thing, but to me it just made sense.

 

all i can say is find the kid in the class that gets it, and make friends with him...

 

and i tried the that's mine i paid for it thing too... (never works btw)

 

I'm 20 so this is fairly fresh to me. just hold tight man, make it happen, and finish it up... you can't even join the military anymore without high school equivalency.

[87Warrior]

Hmm. I am more confused about how your folks can check grades from home. Are schools doing online grading and record keeping now. If so, why?

 

I graduated in May after sticking true to a 5 year program at college. All through school I was typically a 'coaster' but did put forth a lot of effort in a few classes: Advanced Algebra II and Spanish I/II. Those two courses kicked my butt in High School, just did NOT get it. My folks were pretty involved with my education; you know, going to conferences and asking about my scores and assignments. Motivation was the best tool for me. I never once had anything taken away due to poor grades (I learned how to restrict myself from stuff in college). I absolutely loved high school physics. For some reason, I could grasp the concepts very easily and apply the material in lab quickly. A good friend of mine, not so much, so we studied together and ate a lot of chili con queso (see, Spanish did me SOME good :rotf: ) Although I had a 4.2 gpa in high school (thanks honors classes) it took me 3 tries to get a 21 on the ACT test. My same buddy who was no good in physics simply filled in the bubbles for the ACT and got a 25 his first time around. Different strokes for different folks.

 

College was much different for me. Maybe it was because I was in a very select program where a lot of folks were turned away, but I struggled to keep the grades above the minimum. I tried to coast through my first semester, but had a huge slap on the face. I did not 'get' how to study and put off jeepin' until my 3rd year in school. It was certainly hard learning how to set 'boring' priorities high and the fun ones low. Through college my folks were much less directly involved with my education progress, however by simply asking about it and showing genuine concern, helped motivate myself to do the best I could.

[streetjeep2.5]

FreakJeep 93; first, be thankful that you have parents who care enough to do this! Maybe they don't do so perfectly, but they are trying to do what they are there to do; parent you! There are parents who could give a rip! Yours care!

Second, yea, Physics is tough! I don't know if I could have handled it! When I got to Trig and Calculus in High School, I did terrible!

Third, and this is the real point of my post; should I consider your spelling in your post an indication of why your parents are yelling at you? Was your spelling done out of frustration and anger at the moment as you blew off some steam, or is that the way you normally spell? I don't know if it does for you, but my spelling errors are underlined in red on this forum so I can correct them. Does it for you? Even if it did not underline in red, for the sake of us reading it you should have corrected your errors if you saw them because there was a bunch!

Now, please don't take this as coming down on you but out of great concern for your future. If your not taking the time to correct those errors is an indication of how you approach school work, and that is do enough to just get by and who cares how well it is done, no wonder your parents are frustrated and angry! An approach like this toward school, others, and life, will only turn out to bring great harm for your life in the future.

Please, if this is the case, correct it now before it's too late! Let your parents help you. All parents make mistakes, but yours obviously love you. If they didn't they would say "whatever! It's your life"!

 

A note: When I first posted this, I read it again, and because I found ONE missing word that would interfere with those reading it understanding it, I clicked the edit button. So, FreakJeep93, click the edit your life button if that is what you need to do, ok? You will like it later on as people "read" your life.

[reson46]

This probably won't come off as very nice, but it is intended to be helpful and constructive.

 

Is part of the reason your physics grades are so low because your instructor simply can't decipher your work? Your spelling, grammar, and punctuation are horrible. I know if I was an instructor I wouldn't even attempt to grade any assignment with as many grammatical errors as your posts contain - automatic fail. This is especially unexceptable with the prevelance of spell checkers.

 

While the relevance of physics to most individual's futures may be debated, grammar and spelling may not. It is vitally important to almost anything you will choose to do with your life. You may also be surprised how much improving in this area will also improve your other subjects.

 

Willy