mythreesons

Clinton, MO It's his truck. As he lives about 40 minutes away, works late hours (till 2 or 3am like me) and has no room at his house nor tools he has decided to move on. Here is the CL ad: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5619956640.html

Shelby, I'm not going anywhere..... I am the most active lurker you'll ever not see. :laughin: Normally, by the time I get to the forum, you all have beat the horse to death and buried it so I just watch and laugh along with/at you. Besides, we still have a comanche at the house and I am looking for another XJ for my wife to have when her Honda is in the shop. Brett, I happened upon ROF just the other day when I was researching the gas puking problem. I will spend a little more time looking around under the chairs and in the dark corners, but probably will join up. What I have seen so far seems like a bunch of normal people who like their Jeeps ( a lot ). Thanks for the reccomendation. When I decided to get another Jeep for my DD, I had three TJ's sold out from underneath me before I could get to see them so i knew that I would have to move fast when I found something I liked. When I found this LJ, it had the last year model 4.0 (I liked), it had a 6 speed manual (I liked), it had Dana 44s in front and rear (I really liked) but it had that disgusting bright solar yellow color (It's growing on me........ like mold). I couldn't resist, I rushed over and made the dealer sell it to me. Now the Jeep fever is starting up again..... I'm ordering parts from places like FatBobsGarage.com and waiting at the end of the driveway for the postal lady to being me stuff. Second Childhood? Yeah that sounds about right. :rotfl2:

Long story short......... My Daughter-in-Law is running my old 95 Cherokee (so that she and my granddaughters get to where they are going), sold my wifes 02 Grand to my son (so that he can get to where he is going) and bought a 09 Subaru for me to drive. My Mom was in final stages of cancer and I needed gas mileage and zippyness to go back and forth. Well, Mom is gone now and I went looking for another Jeep to have for my DD. Found a 06 Unlimited Rubi. So now I have jumped into the deep end of a different pool of water and I am looking for a Comanche Club in the wrangler side of life. Is there such a place? I cannot see myself putting up with stupid, immature, etc. like what I see is some other forums. That's what I like about here. It's more friendly and not so egocentric. Suggestions? Thanks!

So the old XJ is getting a little long in the tooth (260K) and I decided to find a little gas money saver to drive until the deep snow comes back. Finally decided on a Subaru Impreza, 4 cyl. auto. When I get it home, of course, I start realllllllllllly looking at it. Man, oh, man!!! I need to really work on the grounds on this thing in the engine bay. I hope they have better grounds at the tail lights than the MJ's. A couple of days later I am searching for a forum like here and find that the Subie community has a SERIOUS feeling about the grounds or the lack thereof. Snicker!!!!! Then just on the off chance I decide to do a little lurker search about oil filters. Oh My Gosh!!!! They take oil filters to a whole new level that we never get to. Of course, they are looking at different reasons than we do in the Jeep world, but .............. Well, it was giving me a chuckle to see fanatics running loose like that. I am not sure that some folks don't need white coats with long arms and round rubber rooms. :dunno: Scott

Well ain't that a kick in the pants?!?!?!?!?! :cheers:

Well, it seems like there is an issue with your CPS. Take a look in the DIY section for Cruiser's tips on the CPS. Perhaps just getting it a little closer to the flywheel will help, but from your measurements, yours is at the bottom (or below) of acceptable. How good are your multi-angle-arm bending skills? :D Initially, after first thoughts I would lean towards electical problem of some sort being the cause. I almost would have said heat-soak issue with the coil, but after re-reading your efforts, I probably would put that 2nd on the list.

97-99 is the range that I have been looking at lately. Showed the ad (orig. post) to my wife......"That's older than mine. Why would we want that?" She is driving the 2002 WJ which is beginning to nitpik me with little things. 2-5 miles of rough gravel road ain't doing it no good either. Oh, well. I will have to wait until the latest "world-ending" snowstorm gets done then pick up the search again.

Thanks! At least I had the right number. :laughin:

and I can't seem to get the right search terms to pull info from past threads. I am looking at getting another "nice" XJ to have around and came across this ad: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/3589531388.html What I can't seem to remember is the years of production for the infamous "cracking head" problem. Was that a 0331 casting number? I want to think it was 97-01, but ................... well, you know how it is. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Is that the right years? I have not talked with the sellers yet, but a cracked head being replaced would explain most of the replacements listed in the ad, right? Or at least that could be one explanation. Anybody see anything funny in that listing that I'm not seeing. It has been up on craigslist several times over the past few months. Makes me more than curious. Thanks!

First of all, I appreciate the fact that you are keeping your posts going as you move along the path to craziness. Secondly, I would begin to look into two different directions. one--- I know it's a pain to accomplish..... when this incident happens what voltages are at the starter solenoid? Is it being engaged then turned off before the engine has a chance to make even one revolution? Just asking the question here as I don't know..... If the NSS were to start in one state then change as soon as the flywheel rotates will it turn off the starter? When this non-turning over happens, will it work if you try to start in gear? two--- When you mention the idler pully having a little slack...... Perhaps you could disconnect the spark and take the belt off then try to turn the engine over with the starter? Could there be something binding up that keeps the engine from turning over until it gets loosened up? Loose bolt behind the ???? Loose bolt (or something) inside the starter??? That's all my feeble brain can pull up on a nice sunny Sunday afternoon. Perhaps it's enough to jog someone else's memory to give you better direction.

You started here.......... Then you went here....... Did you try this? When you are turning the key to the "start" position, you are energizing the starter circuit. The fact that your dash lights go out at this time tells you that your system has a electrical short, "possibly" from your previous changes to the truck. It "could be" that the starter has suddenly developed a bad spot and is shorted out, but I have doubts about that as you don't mention any smoke or fire. The only way to know for sure is start at the battery and follow the wires. Make sure you check all the connections on the starter relay and that the wires didn't get pinched somewhere during the changes (inside the cab as well). If all else fails, pull the wire off the starter and check it with a set of jumper cables or pull the starter and take it to the parts house and have them check it.

I thought that there were three temp sensors??????? Driver side- top for idiot light/temp guage, driver side below exhaust for ECU (open/closed loop operation) and the driver side radiator for aux. fan control. Maybe your missing a sensor in the radiator?

I see that you say that all those parts have been replaced, however does all that stuff work properly? Does it act the same way if the engine is warm? Might be a clue there. Cold engine needs good fuel delivery, air and good spark. Check those three under cold conditions and see what you find. Don't bother with the scanner it will tell you less than what you'll get from a clear thought process and a digital multi-meter. Personally, I would start with grounds and check the spark. If your spark is suspect, check the CPS (If you have good spark, the CPS is working). See Cruiser54's recent posts on CPS testing.

Thanks for posting these tips! I have already copied these to a file to add to my binder of various MJ/XJ hint & tricks.

Any progress or did you set fire to it? :waving: