mknherhappy Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 With Chrysler matching the CARS program, have any of you thought about trading your Comanche on a new Jeep vehicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheKid45 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 @!*&!@@!#@#!@# :mad: NO! Sorry :rotfl2: , but no id never dream of such a horrible thing :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 1989 MJ Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 No way !! The new JEEP don't worth it. :ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mknherhappy Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Never thought I would think of it, but, realistically, my Comanche is worth $1500.00 or so, basically going in to a Jeep dealer, I get $9000.00 trade value. Its hard not to atleast give it some thought, for me anyway. Prove my logic is wrong...........seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87ComancheLB Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 The way I look at it, the more they crush XJ's, MJ's the less will be on the market so they will become very rare and the value will increase. $9K is very tempting though. I for one will never trade. I better buy my XJ donor now if I ever want to go to 4x4 before they all disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd44889 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 :fs1: :headpop: :hmm: :grrrr: :fool: thats just for thinking it just think what will happen if u do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Read this thread http://www.comancheclub.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17757 I posted something on JU when someone did the math on how much money they would save in gas over the life of owning their new gas saver. Basically, they forgot to add in the monthly payments, insurance increase, and the tax on tags. It came out to $295 a month in just payments (without anything else mentioned above) minus intrest for 48 months. That is roughly $3600 a year. There is no way possible you can sink $3600 a year into a MJ just to keep it running for the 48 months of new car payments. Maybe if you restore it every year. This program is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaekl Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 The more maintenance and repairs that you do yourself, the less sense economically it makes to buy a new(er) vehicle. You also have the known entity advantage (especially applies when buying a used vehicle) and the emotional advantage. Once you get over the appearance issue (you know, being seen in an old clunker), you have a home run because you don't have to worry about every dent and scratch. Also the longer you own it the more knowledge you gain on maintaining it, thus increasing it's reliabiltiy and decreasing repair costs. Despite what everyone thinks, vehicles have greatly improved for reliability, durabilty and even rust. The down side for the manufactureres is then inadvertently created another competitor - their own older vehicles. I don't think anybody has seriously considered the impact of this facit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mknherhappy Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Read this thread http://www.comancheclub.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17757 I posted something on JU when someone did the math on how much money they would save in gas over the life of owning their new gas saver. Basically, they forgot to add in the monthly payments, insurance increase, and the tax on tags. It came out to $295 a month in just payments (without anything else mentioned above) minus intrest for 48 months. That is roughly $3600 a year. There is no way possible you can sink $3600 a year into a MJ just to keep it running for the 48 months of new car payments. Maybe if you restore it every year. This program is a joke. The only thing about this program that makes it worth looking into for me is the fact that Chrysler will match the $4500.00 gov program. Plus the $1000.00 rebate, thats giving me $10,000 trade in value for a truck worth $1500.00. Believe me I'm not excited about the possibility of this trade, however, the frame on my truck is not good, floor boards need replaced, lots of bondo in it, but, its been a good forum for my youngest son and I to spend some quality time together working on it. Emotions aside, can't come up with a sensible reason not to, but emotions/attachments are huge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87ComancheLB Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I would say go for it if the MJ is in such poor shape and if you can get $10K is a no brainer! If it was in real good condition then NO! IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetjeep2.5 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I would say go for it if the MJ is in such poor shape and if you can get $10K is a no brainer! If it was in real good condition then NO! IMO. In my opinion taking advantage of this Cash for Clunkers is to ok socialism. Those in Federal Government and a lot of State government are poking their noses into areas that are NOT for the government, spending more money than comes in as they do this (Obama inviting Gates and the officer that arrested him to the white house to "fix" things shows this to the "nth" degree), and at some point taxes will be raised to pay for it (even if raised on the rich only, soon those at the lower level of the rich fall out of that category making fewer there to tax so the tax rate goes up causing more to fall out and .... well, it goes on and on until there are no more rich to tax and then they tax those on the next lower level and soon everyone is in poverty and we are like North Korea where hundreds wait in line to take a bath at the government run bath house), and WE are letting it happen to us because WE are as inactive in doing anything about it, like the frog that is put into the pot of cool water that is then slowly heated and is cooked before he knows it. WE talk about it, but still let it happen to us and participate in it, and that is to ok it. I will not do any business with any car sales place participating in this program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJA814 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 On lunch, so not alot of time to type, but this is my post from another thread: Have you even gone to a dealership to see what kind of deal you can get trading it in? Forget it. My mom was looking to trade our salvage title 96 s10 blazer in on a 2009 Patriot. Dealers don't know anything about how the plan works. And chrysler's double cash for clunkers incentive is a waste of time. NO Jeep dealership would sell us a patriot for less than 14k. The base models are 18k. That's only 4k off the sticker. You'd be better off taking Jeep's $3500 customer cash and talking them down. Complete waste of time. Just trying to save you some trouble. Hopefully you've already worked something out, but if not....be ready for a struggle with the salesmen. Not fun. p.s. sorry for the rant :grrrr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reson46 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 With Chrysler matching the CARS program, have any of you thought about trading your Comanche on a new Jeep vehicle? Chrysler makes nothing with a "Jeep" badge that is worth buying. Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithe1811 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I would say go for it if the MJ is in such poor shape and if you can get $10K is a no brainer! If it was in real good condition then NO! IMO. In my opinion taking advantage of this Cash for Clunkers is to ok socialism. Those in Federal Government and a lot of State government are poking their noses into areas that are NOT for the government, spending more money than comes in as they do this (Obama inviting Gates and the officer that arrested him to the white house to "fix" things shows this to the "nth" degree), and at some point taxes will be raised to pay for it (even if raised on the rich only, soon those at the lower level of the rich fall out of that category making fewer there to tax so the tax rate goes up causing more to fall out and .... well, it goes on and on until there are no more rich to tax and then they tax those on the next lower level and soon everyone is in poverty and we are like North Korea where hundreds wait in line to take a bath at the government run bath house), and WE are letting it happen to us because WE are as inactive in doing anything about it, like the frog that is put into the pot of cool water that is then slowly heated and is cooked before he knows it. WE talk about it, but still let it happen to us and participate in it, and that is to ok it. I will not do any business with any car sales place participating in this program. :agree: well put.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfpdm Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Thought about getting the 87 I'm going to part out running so I could take advantage of this seeing how it's going to the scrap yard anyway. Only bad thing is that the 4 bangers don't qualify for this as they get the est. 19 mpg cut off. If I was really needing a new car right now, I'd search craigslist for a clunker in the old ford or chevy flavor for a couple of hundred and do it that way. You help out the person selling the vehicle and make out at the dealership when you trade it in for $10k :D . :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Woudn't work. You have to be the owner and have it registered for the last like year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfpdm Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Woudn't work. You have to be the owner and have it registered for the last like year. Yea, wouldn't work for the 87 but I wonder if it would work for the later idea. Afterall the rule doesn't say that it has to be registered to the same person, only that it was continuously registered and insured for a full year. :dunno: I'm sure I'd lose this arguement at the dealership. -Your vehicle must be less than 25 years old on the trade-in date-Only purchase or lease of new vehicles qualify -Generally, trade-in vehicles must get 18 or less MPG (some very large pick-up trucks and cargo vans have different requirements) -Trade-in vehicles must be registered and insured continuously for the full year preceding the trade-in -You don't need a voucher, dealers will apply a credit at purchase -Program runs through Nov 1, 2009 or when the funds are exhausted, whichever comes first. -The program requires the scrapping of your eligible trade-in vehicle, and that the dealer disclose to you an estimate of the scrap value of your trade-in. The scrap value, however minimal, will be in addition to the rebate, and not in place of the rebate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 With Chrysler matching the CARS program, have any of you thought about trading your Comanche on a new Jeep vehicle? Yes, I've thought about it. For all of about 10 seconds. The fact is, Jeep (whoever "Jeep" is these days) does not currently make a single vehicle I might want to own, and in fact they don't really make a single vehicle worthy of wearing the name Jeep. It only takes 10 seconds to figure that out. End of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJA814 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Woudn't work. You have to be the owner and have it registered for the last like year. Yea, wouldn't work for the 87 but I wonder if it would work for the later idea. Afterall the rule doesn't say that it has to be registered to the same person, only that it was continuously registered and insured for a full year. :dunno: I'm sure I'd lose this arguement at the dealership. -Your vehicle must be less than 25 years old on the trade-in date-Only purchase or lease of new vehicles qualify -Generally, trade-in vehicles must get 18 or less MPG (some very large pick-up trucks and cargo vans have different requirements) -Trade-in vehicles must be registered and insured continuously for the full year preceding the trade-in -You don't need a voucher, dealers will apply a credit at purchase -Program runs through Nov 1, 2009 or when the funds are exhausted, whichever comes first. -The program requires the scrapping of your eligible trade-in vehicle, and that the dealer disclose to you an estimate of the scrap value of your trade-in. The scrap value, however minimal, will be in addition to the rebate, and not in place of the rebate. Jeep dealership told us we needed to have the title and it had to be registered and insured to the person buying the new car. For atleast a year. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluricaunne Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 10k toward a new vehicle almost sounds tempting, but I went out of my way to buy my MJ, and wouldn't trade it or sell it for anything. It is still a work in progress, even if it runs and drives it still needs A LOT of work. I am not tempted by this offer at all, I love my MJ too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Don't think of it as 10k towards a new vehicle. If a dealership is willing to knock down their price for any reason, then they can knock down that price without any reason at all. trade-ins and matched discounts are just scams to make it sound like they're doing something special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffK Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 With Chrysler matching the CARS program, have any of you thought about trading your Comanche on a new Jeep vehicle? Yes, I've thought about it. For all of about 10 seconds. The fact is, Jeep (whoever "Jeep" is these days) does not currently make a single vehicle I might want to own, and in fact they don't really make a single vehicle worthy of wearing the name Jeep. It only takes 10 seconds to figure that out. End of discussion. ...or one test drive :ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Don't think of it as 10k towards a new vehicle. If a dealership is willing to knock down their price for any reason, then they can knock down that price without any reason at all. trade-ins and matched discounts are just scams to make it sound like they're doing something special. :hmm: whaa? it's all subsidized money. they are not knocking down the price, the govt is giving the mfr $4500 and the mfr is giving the dealer $4500 $9k including the pass-through $4500 from the govt), and the other $1000 is either coming from the mfr or the mfr is making the dealer pony up the $1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetjeep2.5 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Don't think of it as 10k towards a new vehicle. If a dealership is willing to knock down their price for any reason, then they can knock down that price without any reason at all. trade-ins and matched discounts are just scams to make it sound like they're doing something special. :hmm: whaa? it's all subsidized money. they are not knocking down the price, the govt is giving the mfr $4500 and the mfr is giving the dealer $4500 $9k including the pass-through $4500 from the govt), and the other $1000 is either coming from the mfr or the mfr is making the dealer pony up the $1000. No, the $4500 is coming from your and my pocket, not the government. All we get in return is a crushed car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Good point. there are three ways to lower prices, government money (our money), manufacture money, and dealership money. In my tired brain I was lumping them all together. Mostly I was thinking about the one CC member who got a "trade in" on his Comanche a while back. If the dealership is willing to blindly give you a few grand for a 20 year old truck, then they are willing to knock thousands off the price for nothing at all beyond good negotiating skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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