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Super cool. Here's their site. http://www.adventuretrailers.com/flippac.html

Tom, that was a HUGELY educational post. Thanks! Question though. The "stock" MT packs you mention above, that should still give lift over std packs, correct? There are some pics of trucks on here with stock MT packs that appear to be in really good shape, i.e. no sag, and they clearly sit 2"+ higher in the rear that std leaf pack MJ's. So, IIUC, you offer "stock" MT packs, which should offer some "lift" over non-MT packs, and you offer MT packs that offer have add'l lift effect in them through the mfg process? And, I loved that at the end you said you are getting ready to offer a 2nd stage MT leaf to basically allow people to convert to MT load capacities. I've thought for a long time that would be a very good idea for someone to offer, and super cost effective and simple I would imagine. Awesome :thumbsup: Ever since Taz got his from you and raved about them, they've been on my wish list. I'd say by next spring I'll be ordering up my 3+2s w/3" lift. :banana:

so if i get some 1" shackles and use my metric ton springs in conjunction with my sua lift, i could get another 2" or so? without having to use a sye? Yes, but only if your MT packs are in good shape, i.e. no sag. The MT packs spring rate gives them a higher arc when unloaded, which is where the lift comes from . Because MJs are SUA, the extra leaf in an MT pack technically would l=lower the rear. The thing to do would be install the MT packs and see how much lift it gives you over regular packs, then add the shackles after and re-measure. Fresh MT packs should give you 2"-3" of lift, whereas "seasoned" packs will only give you 0-1". They'll still have good load capacity if that is important, but the natural arc that provides the "lift" over std spring packs will have settled out. And even if you get the full 2-3" of lift, that amount does not need a SYE at all, especially since you have a long bed IIRC.

wicked cool....

:banana:

perfect weekend to finish up. i assume it was as nice in Richmond as it was here this weekend. I kept looking at the calendar thinking it was September. Low to mid 70s, little to no humidity, light breezes.....nice. So Jeff, have you sold the old house? Just curious since your taking your trees with you! :clapping:

:agree: Plus........you can find them in the "Tow Package" :D Just look for the OEM trailer hitch :brows: ahh, but that is still no guarantee. you can have the tow pkg, which DOES automatically gives you the d44, but does not give you the metric ton. that's how my truck was built. :brows:

you can have a D44 and not have the metric ton package. very easy to find out......4 springs is std, 5 leaf springs is the metric ton.

Dude, that is one sa-weet lid! Very cool. Cute kid too!

yeah, but does he love your truck as much as I do?! :chillin: :brows:

53k original miles, d44, metric ton.............NICE

don, maybe you could relocate the wiper arm to the center of the cowl and get one of those funky one wiper deals off of an early 90s mercedes! :yes:

Looks fantastic Don! Umm, do you have any sons? :brows:

:hmm: You say you are going to put used shocks on, but that your question was what can you buy OTC that is better than stock. I don't know of anyplace that sells used shocks over the counter, so are you going new or used? :dunno: If used, you just need to check the classifieds here, on jeepforum.com, ebay and craigslist of course.

Holy Blonde Strippers Batman! That is friggin hilarious! If her IQ was any higher, she'd be a plant. :rotfl2:

Easy Darren, this leads down a bad road... :roll: Rob L. Yeah, Ben (multipurposemj) might get pissed you claimed HIS claimed title. :rotfl2:

Assuming your shocks are stock, ANYTHING should be better. a fair amount of people on here have been happy with monroe sensatracs, and for your application might be just the ticket. 37026 for the front and 37029s for the back, about $125 shipped from several places. edelbrock still has some left for sale for $30 each and those who got the basics (not the off road ones like jeepco) seemed to be very pleased. however, you'll have to get a measurement of your rear shocks and find a suitable replacement for the rears from another truck as the site doesn't list anything for comanche rears and cherokee/waggy rears are not the right measurement. the ones below should work for your front, and the other link is for the spec chart to find rears that will work. http://store.edelbrock.com/3340884-91wagoneerfront.aspx http://edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mis ... l_2008.pdf

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LOL, I could use that with the wife sometiems. No for sale sign, no intent of putting one up, but just some "away time". :yes:

I would think with the overall condition of it you might get $3k in Cali, don't you think? I recall you said they were not very prevalent in your area. I know the engine is tired etc, but it's a clean rig. I hope you can't get $3k though, I think somewhere along the way you'll get in to it again, get the things fixed you want to, and be happy you kept it. Plus, while I'm sure you won't abandon CC completely, it will keep you around more, and afford me more sarcastic and witty post exchanges. :brows:

Laslo, thanks for making an appearance. I was about to make a call out to request such a visit from you. Nice pics of the family! TJ looks great. You need to let go of your negative energy to the MJ. :chillin:

i'm sure you know those zooks will perform better pointed towards the cab corners? ;)

wow, impressive work on the door panels, and one of a kind for sure.

225/55R17 Load Index 97 = 1609lbs (730kg) per tire Speed Rating “V” = 149mph (240kph) 97V SL Treadwear: 360 Traction: A Temperature: A360 A A 1609 lbs. 51 psi 11/32" 26 lbs. 6-8" rim width range 7" tested/recommended rim width 9.2" section width NA 26.9" diameter 775 revs/mile Country of Origin "PT" = PORTUGALPT 235/65R17 Load Index 108 = 2205lbs (1000kg) per tire Speed Rating “V” = 149mph (240kph) 108V XL Treadwear: 360 Traction: A Temperature: A360 A A 2205 lbs. 51 psi 11/32" 31 lbs. 6-8.5" 6.5" 9" NA 29" 718 Country of Origin "PT" = PORTUGALPT 255/50R17 Load Index 101 = 1819lbs (825kg) per tire Speed Rating “V” = 149mph (240kph) 101V SL Treadwear: 320 Traction: A Temperature: A320 A A 1819 lbs. 51 psi 11/32" 31 lbs. 7-9" 8" 10.4" NA 27" 769 Country of Origin "PT" = PORTUGALPT 255/60R17 Load Index 106 = 2094lbs (950kg) per tire Speed Rating “V” = 149mph (240kph) 106V SL Treadwear: 360 Traction: A Temperature: A360 A A 2094 lbs. 51 psi 11/32" 34 lbs. 7-9" 7.5" 10.2" NA 29" 718 Country of Origin "CZ" = CZECH REPUBLICCZ , Country of Origin "PT" = PORTUGALPT 275/55R17 Load Index 109 = 2271lbs (1030kg) per tire Speed Rating “V” = 149mph (240kph) 109V SL Treadwear: 360 Traction: A Temperature: A360 A A 2271 lbs. 51 psi 11/32" 35 lbs. 7.5-9.5" 8.5" 11.2" NA 28.9" 721 Country of Origin "PT" = PORTUGALPT 275/60R17 Load Index 110 = 2337lbs (1060kg) per tire Speed Rating “V” = 149mph (240kph) 110V SL Treadwear: 360 Traction: A Temperature: A360 A A 2337 lbs. 51 psi 11/32" 37 lbs. 7.5-9.5" rim width range 8" recommended/tested rim width 11" section width 8.5" tread width 30" diameter 695 Country of Origin "US" = UNITED STATES OF AMERICAUS

general grabber uhp...........in your size. listed as a "street/sport truck summer tire".