looking for if there are any 16" 5on5.5" factory rims in existance

[Pete M]

got a free set of near-new 35s from my buddy and am curious if anything came with those specs so I can put these on the MJ (ford axles) for minimal monies plus keep the backspacing within reason.    any ideas?  since I'm dreaming here, let's shoot for 16x8  

 

 

[Pete M]

aside from these I just found that were apparently optional in the 70s.  they are hideous and I refuse to run hubcaps on a wheeler.     hoping for something a bit more "modern".

 

 

[zomeizter]

1 hour ago, Pete M said:

got a free set of near-new 35s from my buddy and am curious if anything came with those specs so I can put these on the MJ (ford axles) for minimal monies plus keep the backspacing within reason.    any ideas?

I thought ZJs used them wheels, no? I scored a free set a while back and believe have your specs, I'm too far to verify this though...

[Pete M]

ZJs are 5 on 4.5.   

[zomeizter]

2 minutes ago, Pete M said:

ZJs are 5 on 4.5.   

My bad dude, I read your post title as 5 on 5.0, and I meant to write WJ...I'm old and decrepit!

[Pete M]

no worries.   I appreciate you trying 

[zomeizter]

4 minutes ago, Pete M said:

no worries.   I appreciate you trying 

But, you don't want to buy some cool shiny new ones? You already scored the tires ya know...

[neohic]

Maybe look for Suzuki Grand Vitara 16x7s? 1999-2004 are the years. 

 

[acfortier]

Dodge Dakota from 2005 - 2011 used 5x5.5, 16x8 ET25.4

 

 

https://wheelsamerica.com/?s=&ymm_search=1&post_type=product&_make=Dodge&_model=Dakota&filter_size_1=16&filter_width_2=8&filter_bolt_3=5-5

 

EDIT: fixed links for 5x5.5

[Pete M]

see, I completely forgot about the grand vitara and that the dakota had 5on5.5.  gotta keep and eye out next junkyard trip.  thanks guys! 

[Pete M]

16 minutes ago, zomeizter said:

But, you don't want to buy some cool shiny new ones? You already scored the tires ya know...

 

technically there's no budget for any of this and I should probably just sell the tires.     but that's boring! 

[neohic]

You’ll need to pay attention to the center bore too with the axles you’ve got. Factory locking hubs? Ford used a smaller diameter than Jeep did on their front axles. That’ll help some. 

[acfortier]

Ah, good point--Dakota won't work. 77.8 vs. 87.1 from the 78 Bronco axles. Doesn't seem to be any options 16x8 with 87.1 bore size, nor 16x7 with 87.1 bore size and 5x5.5. I think you're SOL.

 

I've been using this site: https://www.wheel-size.com/# if you want to try to play around with it--but putting in those specs, nothing comes up. Only thing with 16x7 and 87.1 bore is Ford's 5x135

[ghetdjc320]

I’m thinking based on axles as well. Almost all the 80’s and 90’s 1/2-3/4t Chevy trucks and vans used a 6x5.5 pattern. If you’re  looking for something from a Jeep then most FSJ such as the wagoneer came with that pattern also. Isuzu rodeo/Honda passport also. The Jeep wheel may be a good option. 

[Pete M]

dang, I knew that was too easy.     yeah, the old ford axles are strangely... odd.   

 

 

maybe I can fit the 35s under the Liberty. 

[Eagle]

2 hours ago, ghetdjc320 said:

I’m thinking based on axles as well. Almost all the 80’s and 90’s 1/2-3/4t Chevy trucks and vans used a 6x5.5 pattern. If you’re  looking for something from a Jeep then most FSJ such as the wagoneer came with that pattern also. Isuzu rodeo/Honda passport also. The Jeep wheel may be a good option. 

 

Full-size Cherokee/Wagoneer were 6-bolt.

[gogmorgo]

2 hours ago, acfortier said:

Ah, good point--Dakota won't work. 77.8 vs. 87.1 from the 78 Bronco axles. Doesn't seem to be any options 16x8 with 87.1 bore size, nor 16x7 with 87.1 bore size and 5x5.5. I think you're SOL.

 

I've been using this site: https://www.wheel-size.com/# if you want to try to play around with it--but putting in those specs, nothing comes up. Only thing with 16x7 and 87.1 bore is Ford's 5x135

I pulled up a 2004-2006 E150 Econoline in a 16x7 and 87 centre bore. 
Apparently the 2000’s Kia Sorrento had a 5x139.7 with a 95mm centre bore if going lug centric is okay, or you know someone with a lathe who can whip up some centre bore adapter rings. 
 

I’m just wondering if a 7” wheel is going to be wide enough for a 35” tire. 

[ghetdjc320]

1 hour ago, Eagle said:

 

Full-size Cherokee/Wagoneer were 6-bolt.

True, for some reason I was thinking he was looking for 6x5.5 pattern

[DirtyComanche]

Tons of half ton Dodges will have aftermarket wheels on them with the massive hub bore that will work.  16" isn't as common as 17", but they're out there.

 

I was going to machine the center out on a set of factory Dodge wheels for my MJ but found a set of brand spanking new in box aftermarket wheels for not much money and went that route.

 

 

Edit, the Ford axles are lug centric.  The hub bore doesn't matter as long as it goes over the front hub.  A guy could just hog a set of factory Dodge wheels over with a die grinder if he wanted.

[motownXJdad]

right bolt pattern wrong size, 17x9

[derf]

On 9/20/2022 at 6:29 PM, Pete M said:

 

technically there's no budget for any of this and I should probably just sell the tires.     but that's boring! 

It always seems I spend the most money on parts I get for free...

[Pete M]

as I like to say, just because it was a good deal, doesn't mean it's a good idea.  

[zomeizter]

Pete, there are adapters out there to make it "easy", I know I know, adapters are "evil", but this can be done right with correct installation and the mandated inspection and maintenance. Or, I'll come get them free tires off your hands you just smile and wave haha! XD

Carry on...

[Pete M]

I've got nothing against adapters in principle, but they will push the tires out even more.    

 

but now that I think about it, I may need to put one of the 33s back on the MJ and see just how close the tires get when turning.  this whole thread may be a moot point if it turns out I need more backspacing than factory rims tend to have. 

[Andy in Pa]

On 9/25/2022 at 9:45 AM, Pete M said:

I've got nothing against adapters in principle, but they will push the tires out even more.    

 

but now that I think about it, I may need to put one of the 33s back on the MJ and see just how close the tires get when turning.  this whole thread may be a moot point if it turns out I need more backspacing than factory rims tend to have. 

Actually, yes you are going to have a problem if you try to run 35's on factory backspaced 16" (5 on 4.5 or 5 on 5 pattern) Jeep wheels, so you'll need adapeter even if you had that bolt pattern.  In your case, add the correct 1-1/2" conversion spacers to the  16" Jeep wheels and you'll be good to go.  I bet the tire will stick out less than an inch with that combo.  And if its a D44 front axle, there is much less worry about the load the spacers put on the hub bearings and such.