Jackrabbit41 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Hey all, been along time since ive been on here, good to be back! anyway, i got a buddy selling some king 2.5 air shocks 16" travel. They are massive, but I'm buying them and putting them on my jeep. The ole Comanches about to go to a whole new level. I have to relocate my air box, windshield washer tank, and all my wiring by the battery. I also need uni-body stiffeners so that the shock hoops that will be going up to almost the hood have a strong place to mount. I just ordered Cherokee front uni-body stiffeners from ruff-stuff, and now I am trying to figure out what to do with my stock intake. What is the simplest set up I can do to save the most room, and what lines do i need to plug? Thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I plopped a round carb style assembly on top of my throttlebody. it's minimal and the whistle from the TB is irritating as all get out. plus the hood limits the size of filter and I'm pretty sure it has fewer square inches than stock. what I plan to do in the future is a filter assembly inside the cowl. I've seen it done plenty of times. gets the filter up as high as possible and out of the engine bay's heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrabbit41 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pete M said: I plopped a round carb style assembly on top of my throttlebody. it's minimal and the whistle from the TB is irritating as all get out. plus the hood limits the size of filter and I'm pretty sure it has fewer square inches than stock. what I plan to do in the future is a filter assembly inside the cowl. I've seen it done plenty of times. gets the filter up as high as possible and out of the engine bay's heat. Ill have to check that out, sounds sleek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi Beast Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Make your own snorkel. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzimm Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 As Pete mentioned, cowl intakes are super nice and hidden away but the kits are kind of pricey. I love mine though. Look up Thor if you are interested in this route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrabbit41 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Dzimm said: As Pete mentioned, cowl intakes are super nice and hidden away but the kits are kind of pricey. I love mine though. Look up Thor if you are interested in this route. I like those but after a quick online search looks like they only fit 91 and up. Don’t know what changed in those years, maybe I could still get to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrabbit41 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 9 hours ago, MiNi Beast said: Make your own snorkel. Simple. Na I don’t want a snorkel and that doesn’t save me any room haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzimm Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jackrabbit41 said: I like those but after a quick online search looks like they only fit 91 and up. Don’t know what changed in those years, maybe I could still get to work I put it in my 90. I believe the difference to be the firewall/cowl area. I think the 91+ Jeeps have a deeper cowl area because when I cut the area according to the template, the bottom of the cut was flush with the bottom of the cowl so I had to squish and kind of force the cone filter in the hole because it didn't have extra clearance for the bottom of the filter. I don't care because it's still sealed and you can't see the slightly squished filter, still worked just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMO413 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 This should make the later air cleaners fit on the Renix throttle body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi Beast Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Jackrabbit41 said: Na I don’t want a snorkel and that doesn’t save me any room haha Thats funny i have enough room to mount 2nd battery and suck cold air and can drive through lakes and all under $20. Go ahead do something pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrabbit41 Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 10 hours ago, MiNi Beast said: Thats funny i have enough room to mount 2nd battery and suck cold air and can drive through lakes and all under $20. Go ahead do something pretty. Well I have a job and get paid well, I also like nice things so I’m gonna go with something reputable lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi Beast Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 53 minutes ago, Jackrabbit41 said: Well I have a job and get paid well, I also like nice things so I’m gonna go with something reputable lol You sound like my brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokeyyank Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Thought about something like this.... https://trailheadoffroad.com/product/cherokee-comanche-intake-kit91-01-with-pre-filter/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 yup, that's what I'm talkin' about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi Beast Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Cumbersome snorkel. 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblankss Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 4/9/2020 at 8:15 AM, Dzimm said: I put it in my 90. I believe the difference to be the firewall/cowl area. I think the 91+ Jeeps have a deeper cowl area because when I cut the area according to the template, the bottom of the cut was flush with the bottom of the cowl so I had to squish and kind of force the cone filter in the hole because it didn't have extra clearance for the bottom of the filter. I don't care because it's still sealed and you can't see the slightly squished filter, still worked just fine. Sorry to revive old post. I recently put a similar intake in my vehicle, what did you do with the small air intake hoses? I believe they connect to the EGR valve - or the part that opens the valve to pull in warm air from the exhaust. Now without the airbox it seems like those are completely useless - did you just cap off the hoses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblankss Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 @DzimmSpecifically the hoses in the diagram above that go from the vacuum fitting to the airbox and EGR solenoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzimm Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, billyblankss said: @DzimmSpecifically the hoses in the diagram above that go from the vacuum fitting to the airbox and EGR solenoid My 90 is a 97+ swap truck so I only had the one line from the valve cover. I didn't have the other vacuum lines to deal with. You may be able to get away with just capping them but if you can, I'd weld some fittings to the intake tube to connect them to so it doesn't screw something up. Otherwise you may be able to find some T fittings you could splice in somewhere on the new intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 what specific aspects make this a 91+ only item? i.e. what part doesn't fit the renix trucks? https://trailheadoffroad.com/product/cherokee-comanche-intake-kit91-01-with-pre-filter/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblankss Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 The biggest thing is the Renix intake doesn't have the flare for their elbow to latch on, but in the video of the installation they link to they show a guy who buys an adapter to solve that. The biggest thing i'm looking at is the egr valve is gone for me now. When i cap the hoses it seems like it runs well, i just wanted someone out there to clarify if they did the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 41 minutes ago, billyblankss said: The biggest thing is the Renix intake doesn't have the flare for their elbow to latch on, but in the video of the installation they link to they show a guy who buys an adapter to solve that. The biggest thing i'm looking at is the egr valve is gone for me now. When i cap the hoses it seems like it runs well, i just wanted someone out there to clarify if they did the same thing. If you are not "using" the EGR valve, then you can remove the vacuum lines from the fitting on the intake and cap the fitting off. Same if you aren't using the little door for the heated air intake. Capping off the unused lines won't affect how it runs (although deleting the EGR valve might). Once you delete the EGR and heated air intake hoses, it looks like you are left with the fuel pressure regulator connection at that vacuum fitting. You could swap the fitting for one with a single hose connection to clean things up, and not have to worry about a cap eventually dry rotting and falling off, causing a vacuum leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Dzimm said: My 90 is a 97+ swap truck so I only had the one line from the valve cover. The later valve covers still have two lines for crankcase ventilation, one for vacuum (vent) and one for clean air in. You'll still have two hoses unless you are using a filter right on the valve cover for clean air in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblankss Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, schardein said: If you are not "using" the EGR valve, then you can remove the vacuum lines from the fitting on the intake and cap the fitting off. Same if you aren't using the little door for the heated air intake. Capping off the unused lines won't affect how it runs (although deleting the EGR valve might). Once you delete the EGR and heated air intake hoses, it looks like you are left with the fuel pressure regulator connection at that vacuum fitting. You could swap the fitting for one with a single hose connection to clean things up, and not have to worry about a cap eventually dry rotting and falling off, causing a vacuum leak. My man. Thank you this is what I needed. Capped them and seems ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzimm Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 11 hours ago, schardein said: The later valve covers still have two lines for crankcase ventilation, one for vacuum (vent) and one for clean air in. You'll still have two hoses unless you are using a filter right on the valve cover for clean air in. It does have two lines coming from the valve cover however only the front one goes to the intake tube, the rear one goes to a fitting on the intake manifold so it isn't affected by removing the airbox. Glad to see you got yours figured out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75sv1 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I've been looking at adapting the 'Power Tech' WJTB hat or Resonator to an XJ. Not sure if to the airfilter box or a K&N type filter. The Power Tech has an oval opening. Seeing how that will adapt somehow. I do have the Thor, but not installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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