HOrnbrod Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I read that an ashtray lamp is optional feature of our MJs and XJs. It's is tied to the dash illumination circuit and comes on with the parking lights. It can be dimmed by rotating the headlamp knob with the rest of the dash illumination lights. I don't have one of these and never knew it existed until recently. It's connector is supposed to be prewired in the dash harness and the actual bulb sits behind a hole on the left side of the ashtray cavity. Anyone have one of these in their rig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neohic Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I had one in my '91. I think I remember pulling the bulb out though because it would glow through the little crack at the top opening of the ashtray. Kind of an annoyance. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I have them on mine. I think I have an extra one, PM an address and it's yours, assuming I find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 My XJ had one. The PO removed the bulbs from every single interior light on it for some reason. I haven't had time to dig into it, but I'm assuming one of the door switches is stuck/bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 I have them on mine. I think I have an extra one, PM an address and it's yours, assuming I find it. Thanks Mike but I just snagged one on Ebay. I keep a container of change in there and a lamp would be nice to have at night at the drive through. I've had quite a few XJs and don't remember any of them having it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubachoo Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 One of my old XJ's had it, which I thought was odd because it was a bare bare bones XJ, with that as the only fancy option. Always made me think someone before me took it from a junkyard vehicle to put in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex06 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Mine had one, but I think the PO removed it...assuming when the ashtray broke, lol. Yet another thing to fix..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gregory Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Is the wiring to it only one orange/black wire? Where can I get a bulb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It should be two wires, one black one orange with a connector that fits this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 This is what it looks like - I just got it. So, to plug it in I assume I need to remove the lower dash panel and the connector is behind it somewhere? Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Hey Don, nice table! From what I remember, just pulling the knee panel is all that's required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 Hey Don, nice table! From what I remember, just pulling the knee panel is all that's required. :rotfl2: Ya, I like oak. So the whole lower dash knee panel has to come out Mike? Figured as much. I had something else I needed to do in that area but I've forgotten what it was. :hmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Knee panel speakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 No, but those would sure be nice with the new Mopar CD player I just put in. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggilez Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It should be two wires, one black one orange with a connector that fits this: so that's what the bleu thing is on the xj harness. guess I got one too then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MJTIM Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It should be two wires, one black one orange with a connector that fits this: so that's what the bleu thing is on the xj harness. guess I got one too then. Don't you know? It's for the new Blu e- cigarettes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 HA! It's blue because the bulb gives off yellow light resulting in a green light matching the switches and heat control panel. If you use a white LED in any of them it will result in blue illumination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 I have them on mine. I think I have an extra one, PM an address and it's yours, assuming I find it. Thanks Mike but I just snagged one on Ebay. I keep a container of change in there and a lamp would be nice to have at night at the drive through. I've had quite a few XJs and don't remember any of them having it. Mike - got a PM from G who said there was no power on the harness connector on both his 92 MJ and 95 XJ, yet his 89MJ and 87 XJ did have power. So maybe this ashtray lamp feature was a Renix era thing only. I'll dig through my FSM wiring diagrams and see what I can find.......... Anyone have a 91 or later MJ/XJ that has a working ashtray lamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekaz1 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Knee panel speakers? Always wondered if speakers went behind those grates. I planned k. Putting some tweeters behind there at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Those speakers were XJ only, the MJ harness does not have provisions for them but they're easy to splice in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnj92131 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Those speakers were XJ only, the MJ harness does not have provisions for them but they're easy to splice in. Wonder if it is the same issue with the ash tray lamp, XJ only? Thanks for confirming that I need to splice in those speakers. Thought I might just be missing the plugs or looking in the wrong place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 My MJ has the ash tray light connector. If my 91 has it I suspect the earlier ones do too. I say this because the earlier models were all wired for the cargo light, even if it wasn't optioned at the factory. However, 91-92 are not. I guess Chrysler was trying to save money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekaz1 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 My MJ has the ash tray light connector. If my 91 has it I suspect the earlier ones do too. I say this because the earlier models were all wired for the cargo light, even if it wasn't optioned at the factory. However, 91-92 are not. I guess Chrysler was trying to save money? Hmm explains why I had to run a wire and splice the dash switch harness when I installed one cargo lamp on my 91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekaz1 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Those speakers were XJ only, the MJ harness does not have provisions for them but they're easy to splice in. I have these converter box things that I got out of a parts jeep that split the front speaker feed and give a tweeter output with a couple dipswitch settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 My MJ has the ash tray light connector. If my 91 has it I suspect the earlier ones do too. I say this because the earlier models were all wired for the cargo light, even if it wasn't optioned at the factory. However, 91-92 are not. I guess Chrysler was trying to save money? Are you saying you have the harness connector and your 91 does have a working ashtray light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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