sang_route Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Nice write up. I purchased my commanche (89 sportruck shortbed white and black w blue interior) and the po had done almost the exact lift. The only major difference was he used Rustys coils. It rides good but I'd spend a few more bucks for a stiffer set. And don't forget when goin spring over rear, add the axle tube diameter into your "calcuated" lift height. I droped in a free 9" and now the truck went from a 2" rake to a 4.5" rake. This lift can fit 33's with lite fernder trimming.
daking Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 Nice write up. I just ordered all the parts. Lets see how this turns out. What shocks should I order? for the extra height?
ftpiercecracker1 Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 Oh, you should totally do a writeup on the assembly. That would be AWESOME. :drool: Make sure to take 10,000 photos if you do.
Alexia Posted February 14, 2013 Author Posted February 14, 2013 Nice write up. I just ordered all the parts. Lets see how this turns out. What shocks should I order? for the extra height? I ordered Bilstein 5100 #24-185943 shocks for the front. For the rear I am unsure since I still need to decide if I want to do spring pad mounted shocks or weld tabs on to the axle.
Zebvance Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 NICE!!!! did you still need that driveshaft?
Alexia Posted February 15, 2013 Author Posted February 15, 2013 NICE!!!! did you still need that driveshaft? I am supposed to offer up the axle to the rear tonight so I can take measurements!
Bornindesert Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Nice work, will definitely help me out as I finalize my build list. With the sway bar links and adapters, what goes on at the connection to the axle? The bushing is eliminated, replaced with a U bracket? Does the adapter ride off to the side or straddle the connection point. Thank!
Alexia Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Nice work, will definitely help me out as I finalize my build list. With the sway bar links and adapters, what goes on at the connection to the axle? The bushing is eliminated, replaced with a U bracket? Does the adapter ride off to the side or straddle the connection point. Thank! The bushing is retained in the new link. The adapter bolts through the top bushing and bols to the sway bar.
Bornindesert Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 I had it visualized upside down, got it now thanks! Have you fit the e-brake cables and brake hoses? About to pull the trigger on your p/n's...
Alexia Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 I had it visualized upside down, got it now thanks! Have you fit the e-brake cables and brake hoses? About to pull the trigger on your p/n's... I fit the front brake hoses and they work great. It took a bit of figuring out to oriented them properly so the hoses pull away naturally from the tires. I have held the rear hose and cables up to check lengths, but not yet put them on. I am dropping the rear axle off for work today and will not be getting it back until next week.
daking Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 Questions.. Shims to align the LCA, did you use the factory ones? How do you get the adjuster to fit? (NOTE: I'm using factory control arms, for now..) Front Brake hoses, can you post a picture of how you mounted them on the caliper? Cause, I have them installed, and at full drop, they are tight. any flexing and they may snap. Also, on the XJ they show braces that support the control arm drop brackets. The go all the way to a cross-member and support the back of the drop brackets. I found a site that sells them for the MJ, cause the XJ ones won't fit.
Alexia Posted March 3, 2013 Author Posted March 3, 2013 Questions.. Shims to align the LCA, did you use the factory ones? How do you get the adjuster to fit? (NOTE: I'm using factory control arms, for now..) Front Brake hoses, can you post a picture of how you mounted them on the caliper? Cause, I have them installed, and at full drop, they are tight. any flexing and they may snap. Also, on the XJ they show braces that support the control arm drop brackets. The go all the way to a cross-member and support the back of the drop brackets. I found a site that sells them for the MJ, cause the XJ ones won't fit. I did use the factory shims and it looks like I am very close to where I need to be. The LCA bolt is moved forward 0.5" with the drop brackets which is nearly perfect for taking up the difference in lift height. As for the braces, I am not worrying about them. The MJ already has much more bracing than a XJ with the stock LCA pocket. I had to put in an extra bolt to get the tabs to stay still instead of wobbling. Make sure to slide the metal bracket all the way to the end of the line. I did this by twisting a screwdriver between it to loosen the metal, slide it, and then clamped it again in a vice. The hard portion of the line I routed between the bleed nipple and upper caliper bolt.
Bornindesert Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 Here is the back brake hose on about 5" of lift. Thanks again for researching the p/n's. To use existing bracket had to modify the hose fitting The metal is soft, filed the hex off and made it round like OEM fitting Brake hose retaining clip is a Crown p/n 637427 was $1.99 from Quadratec
88whitemanche Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Hey I checked into the coils and the price has gone up....I was going to order the coils then I saw the price go up.
Alexia Posted May 22, 2013 Author Posted May 22, 2013 Hey I checked into the coils and the price has gone up....I was going to order the coils then I saw the price go up.Six left in stock. http://www.amazon.com/Rubicon-Express-RE1345-Coil-Spring/dp/B006GJK8MY
dlee Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 The control arm brackets have almost doubled in price...sheesh edit: found them on amazon for $150 cheaper
Alexia Posted May 23, 2013 Author Posted May 23, 2013 Looks like newer more expensive stock is rolling into places.
Lee21490 Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Hopefully i can snag some of the last few cheapies before they raise the prices all around. Ordering the rest of what i need next week when i get paid.
dscowell Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 RE springs for $80.93! http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.com/Suspension-Lift-Kits/Rubicon-Express-Suspension/Rubicon-Express-Components/Suspension-Components/Coil-Springs-Spacers/Rubicon-Express/Rubicon-Express-Coil-Springs-MJ-XJ-5.5-ZJ-4.5 Rough country control arm drop brackets for $189.95 http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_xj_control_arm_drop.php Barnes4wd spring perches for $26.14 http://www.barnes4wd.com/Anti-Wrap-Leaf-Spring-Perch-Pair-Dana-44_p_82.html I figured I'd share these sense a lot of the prices have rose!
Biotex Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 I lifted mine 4.5", and did not use the control arm drop kit. My lifted MJ drives perfectly at all speeds. Not sure what drivability issues they are referring to when they state: "This kit is used to lower the upper and lower control arm mounting points when the XJ Cherokee is lifted at least 4.5". Lowering the control arm mounting points reduces the arms angles and substantially improves ride quality and handling." The lowering kit also greatly reduces ground clearance behind the front tires where you need it when coming off a rock. I'm not sure I can justify the expense for a 4.5" lift.
TCAdkins Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Is there any way of getting a full set of instructions for this lift kit? I have all the parts and shocks ready I just don't know where to start
ftpiercecracker1 Posted August 25, 2013 Posted August 25, 2013 Any difference, except for price? Even though i am in no position to be buying parts for a lift at this moment, i am considering buying these simply because they are priced so low. http://mudflaps.com/cart.html http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.com/Suspension-Lift-Kits/Rubicon-Express-Suspension/Rubicon-Express-Components/Suspension-Components/Coil-Springs-Spacers/Rubicon-Express/Rubicon-Express-Coil-Springs-MJ-XJ-5.5-ZJ-4.5
dscowell Posted August 25, 2013 Posted August 25, 2013 The coils are exactly the same I kinda know the guy who owns serious offroad. In the same offroad club as me so that's how I know about them
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