bighause Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 The seller said that he thought these were out of a 1990 model, is there any way to tell from this picture what year they are? I am looking for a full gauge swap for my 89. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... MEWAX%3AIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 looks right to me. :thumbsup: if he flipped it over it'd be super easy. 90 and earlier have a mechanical speedo hookup. I see a busted mounting tab on the lower left edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Seems a bit pricey to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildman Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Seems a bit pricey to me. But......it's got free shipping :D So, opening bid, and the free shipping, not a bad price. Oh, and it looks Renix to me to :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche09 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Be Careful. On that particular cluster style (old school font), ONLY 1987 Model year is plug and play with Renix 4.0. Clusters '88 and later with -full gauges- are the modern font. So he is wrong on the year. I have one installed in my '88 4.0L, and I pulled it from an '87 XJ Limited. '84-86 XJ's w/2.8L V6 were available with the exact same face style, however it's guts are different and it will NOT swap (I have one from an '84 XJ 2.8L sitting in my garage). Ask for a picture of the back and post it here and I'll tell you if it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I agree with Comanche09 -- that's not a 1990 gauge cluster. That's an early cluster and the speedo cable connection is probably different. Only a photo os the back side will tell for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james750 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 My 90 originally came with a old school font gauge cluster with idiot lights and a big gas gauge. I got a full cluster with the old school font (just like the one on that ebay listing, I just like that style better) and the speedo input was the same, no mods needed, just as plug and play so to speak as any other renix gauge cluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighause Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share Posted February 13, 2010 Thanks for the help, I didn't even catch the broken tab. I would personally like this style cluster better, can I find this one for a renix MJ or were they only 91+? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Che ... 2ea973012f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I would personally like this style cluster better, can I find this one for a renix MJ or were they only 91+? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Che ... 2ea973012f That style was also made for the RENIX era. It has a mechanical speedo hookup while the HO clusters have the electronic speedo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glundblad Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 If you are a little patient, I may be able to give you mine for free. It is for a Renix 4.0 and has the red fonts. All the gauges work. I have a blue font cluster I need to swap in. Assuming it works, you can have my red font Renix cluster. Just pay for shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowey Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Thanks for the help, I didn't even catch the broken tab. I would personally like this style cluster better, can I find this one for a renix MJ or were they only 91+? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Che ... 2ea973012f Keep looking... I have this exact one in my 88 from the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche09 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 My 90 originally came with a old school font gauge cluster with idiot lights and a big gas gauge. I got a full cluster with the old school font (just like the one on that ebay listing, I just like that style better) and the speedo input was the same, no mods needed, just as plug and play so to speak as any other renix gauge cluster. You got lucky and found an '87 Cluster. That year is the only swappable year for the full gauge old school font. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I put a so called "'87 only" cluster in Jakemans '88, and it works fine. Plug and play. Don't know why it shouldn't work... Rob L. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Here's what I (think I) know: 87 through 90 clusters are all compatible. All 87 (with or without tach) had the old font, 88 through 90 without tach all had the old font, 88 through 90 with tach had the new font. I currently have a full cluster with the new font in my 87 just because I liked having a tach (it already had all other gauges) and I though the humongous fuel gauge was tacky. But I would prefer the old font, as I found I don't like the new speedo. miles are ticked ever 2.5 miles, whereas with the old font every mile is ticked. The holy grail would be a full gauge old font 120mph cluster. Does that even exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I believe in Police XJ's... Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 And here I thought the speedo cable clip was changed midway through 87? I'd given an 88 cluster to 69camaroSS for his 87, and it didn't just plug in, so we figured he had an early 87. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I added and "Old Font" cluster with tach to my '88 but I gad to replace the speedometer with the original, solder in a piece of wire and shim the speedo into the cluster. I guess it must have been a pre 87. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 And here I thought the speedo cable clip was changed midway through 87? I'd given an 88 cluster to 69camaroSS for his 87, and it didn't just plug in, so we figured he had an early 87. I know my '87 MJ Pioneer with full gauges + tach has the "old" style lettering and the 1 MPH markings on the speedo, so it would be classified as an "early style" cluster. I have not checked to see which type of connector holds the speedo cable to the speedo head. It has always been my understanding that the old style is a "Type 1" cluster (1 MPH and 100 RPM ticks) and the new style (with the more modern numbers and ticks only at the 2.5 MPH and 250 RPM points) is a "Type 2." I've never heard of a Type 1 cluster that accepts the newer nylon push-on speedo cable. I don't know if the change to the Type 2 cluster was in mid-year 1987 or if it was changed when they brought in the '88 model year. I have believed that it was a 1988 introduction, but I suppose it might have been a mid-1987 running change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 My 87 has a build date of November 86, which I assume means it's an early one. Original cluster was full gauges minus tach, speedo ticked every 1 mph. I switched it out for a full gauge cluster with tach, and the newer speedo ticked every 2.5 mph out of an 89 Cherokee. Swapped right in with and had the correct speedo hookup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpnjim Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 The bottom cluster was what came in my 87 XJ (Laredo). It used the white push in style speedo cable connection. Sorry if the 87' full pack is the desirable setup, but mine went under the knife today :eek: (see Grandpa thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 My 87 has a build date of November 86, which I assume means it's an early one. Original cluster was full gauges minus tach, speedo ticked every 1 mph. I switched it out for a full gauge cluster with tach, and the newer speedo ticked every 2.5 mph out of an 89 Cherokee. Swapped right in with and had the correct speedo hookup. You're saying your speedo cable has the white nylon push-on retainer, and does NOT use a metal retainer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Can't remember any more. All I remember is it popped off the old one, and fit on the new one without modification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheKid45 Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Theres the OP Speedo on Ebay and I found this 1 earlier, the Seller says it a mechanical hookup. So which 1 should I go for? I have an 88. here's a pic of the other 1 with the new style font. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... &viewitem= and the Orgional http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... K:MEWAX:IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighause Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 The original because I will be buying the red font one... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheKid45 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Ha Ha....thats ok, i think the older 1 would look better in the MJ, i have the new font in the XJ and would like to have them be different. I think I'm gonna snatch the older 1 up, its a decent price and id hate to rip the dash apart and not upgrade while I'm in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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