derf Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I grew up flying in a Piper Comanche. Dad had a quarter share in one. I never got my own license but I did learn a bit about flying. At one point I was able to navigate whole trips on instruments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeepcoMJ Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 6 hours ago, MiNi Beast said: ill help put it back together if i can jump out of it at 10k?? Probably not going to take you up on either of those things... would like to have it land successfully when I’m done 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
89 MJ Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 9 hours ago, JeepcoMJ said: The owner of the hangar I keep my plane in owns a 260C Piper Comanche. So are we going to se some pictures, or are you going to tease us? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MiNi Beast Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 hours ago, JeepcoMJ said: Probably not going to take you up on either of those things... would like to have it land successfully when I’m done 🤣 yes balance. 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeepcoMJ Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 hours ago, 89 MJ said: So are we going to se some pictures, or are you going to tease us? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
89 MJ Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, JeepcoMJ said: That’s cool! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse J Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 thats pretty sexy. you gonna show us the hangar owners mj? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeepcoMJ Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Jesse J said: thats pretty sexy. you gonna show us the hangar owners mj? He’s not a jeep guy. heck, I don’t even own an MJ that’s assembled any more. just got this, though... IMG_1757.MOV Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Jesse J Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 that is very cool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeepcoMJ Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jesse J said: that is very cool Thanks. 83 J20. One owner, belonged to local ski hill. They scrapped it, the owner of the yard saved it for me. 360 4bbl edelbrock t19 granny low sun bro’s 4 speed 4x4 with a Dana 44HD front and Dana 60 full floating rear and 3.73’s, factory buckets but plain Jane otherwise. I've got all the parts accumulated to put it back to a full truck and do a resto mod keeping the drivetrain and running gear. that was the first time it had been started in a couple decades. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MiNi Beast Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 ill take the work box. could use it on my ford. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeepcoMJ Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, MiNi Beast said: ill take the work box. could use it on my ford. Already gone. Traded it for the winter storage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MiNi Beast Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 good trade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
derf Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 T18a if it's stock with an NP208. The T19 only made it into Ford trucks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
89 MJ Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 hours ago, JeepcoMJ said: Thanks. 83 J20. One owner, belonged to local ski hill. They scrapped it, the owner of the yard saved it for me. 360 4bbl edelbrock t19 granny low sun bro’s 4 speed 4x4 with a Dana 44HD front and Dana 60 full floating rear and 3.73’s, factory buckets but plain Jane otherwise. I've got all the parts accumulated to put it back to a full truck and do a resto mod keeping the drivetrain and running gear. that was the first time it had been started in a couple decades. My brother has 2 J10s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeepcoMJ Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 hours ago, derf said: T18a if it's stock with an NP208. The T19 only made it into Ford trucks. Not in an 83 j20. May be correct on transfer case, and I’d even say probably are. But it’s a t19 for certain, and it’s stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
derf Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 hours ago, JeepcoMJ said: Not in an 83 j20. May be correct on transfer case, and I’d even say probably are. But it’s a t19 for certain, and it’s stock. If it is in fact a T19 it's not stock. Jeep never used the T19. They used the T18 (close ratio) and T18a (wide ratio with the granny gear). https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/transmissions/manual/t18-t19/ All J20 manual trucks starting in 1980 used the T18a. All J10s starting in 1980 used the close ratio T176. 70s J trucks had the T18/Dana 20 combo. Some close ratio, some wide ratio. That doesn't mean it couldn't have been swapped at some point but it didn't roll off the assembly line that way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete M Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 novak hasn't got a 100% track record on info. close though so it's hard to say. but I wonder if @jdog or @eaglescout526 might be able to find something in the Jeep computers? maybe? fingers crossed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
derf Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 https://www.advanceadapters.com/tech-vault/1-borg-warner-t18t19/ This one indicates that the T18 in the J20 only ran through 1982. So it's maybe a swapped in Ford unit in an 83. Regardless, the T19 was only stock in Ford and IH trucks. It never came from the factory in a Jeep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeepcoMJ Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, derf said: https://www.advanceadapters.com/tech-vault/1-borg-warner-t18t19/ This one indicates that the T18 in the J20 only ran through 1982. So it's maybe a swapped in Ford unit in an 83. Regardless, the T19 was only stock in Ford and IH trucks. It never came from the factory in a Jeep. still wrong. This truck is now 2 owner and was ordered as it is. It’s never had custom work beyond the dealer installed service body. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
derf Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, JeepcoMJ said: still wrong. This truck is now 2 owner and was ordered as it is. It’s never had custom work beyond the dealer installed service body. Let's see the casting numbers on the transmission and the tag on the transfer case. That will answer the question definitively. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eaglescout526 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 What I might be able to find will be as early as 84 unfortunately. It still might list all transmissions possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BeatCJ Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 @JeepcoMJHow do you know for sure it's a T-19? I have had 3 of them, 2 Ford diesels and the rare 5.11 first gear version. As near as I can tell, externally they are identical to the T-18. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeepcoMJ Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 15 hours ago, derf said: Let's see the casting numbers on the transmission and the tag on the transfer case. That will answer the question definitively. Sure, in about 5 months when I go back and get it out of storage to drop off and have it rebuilt. As it sits, I had someone who worked at the AMC plant in Kenosha 30 minutes away (who is a J truck fan) look it over, and advise me of what it has. Combine that with the old jeep dealership parts master who is a J truck aficionado advising the same thing, I'll go with their recommendations as to what is in the truck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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