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[derf]

I grew up flying in a Piper Comanche.  Dad had a quarter share in one.  I never got my own license but I did learn a bit about flying.  At one point I was able to navigate whole trips on instruments.

[JeepcoMJ]

6 hours ago, MiNi Beast said:

ill help put it back together if i can jump out of it at 10k??

Probably not going to take you up on either of those things...

 

would like to have it land successfully when I’m done 🤣

[89 MJ]

9 hours ago, JeepcoMJ said:

 

 

The owner of the hangar I keep my plane in owns a 260C Piper Comanche. 

So are we going to se some pictures, or are you going to tease us?

[MiNi Beast]

4 hours ago, JeepcoMJ said:

Probably not going to take you up on either of those things...

 

would like to have it land successfully when I’m done 🤣

yes balance. 😄

[JeepcoMJ]

3 hours ago, 89 MJ said:

So are we going to se some pictures, or are you going to tease us?

 

[89 MJ]

3 minutes ago, JeepcoMJ said:

 

That’s cool!

[Jesse J]

thats pretty sexy. you gonna show us the hangar owners mj?

[JeepcoMJ]

1 hour ago, Jesse J said:

thats pretty sexy. you gonna show us the hangar owners mj?

He’s not a jeep guy.

 

heck, I don’t even own an MJ that’s assembled any more.

 

just got this, though...

 

 

[JeepcoMJ]

[Jesse J]

that is very cool

[JeepcoMJ]

5 minutes ago, Jesse J said:

that is very cool

Thanks.

 

83 J20.  One owner, belonged to local ski hill.  They scrapped it, the owner of the yard saved it for me.  
 

360 4bbl edelbrock t19 granny low sun bro’s 4 speed 4x4 with a Dana 44HD front and Dana 60 full floating rear and 3.73’s, factory buckets but plain Jane otherwise.

 

I've got all the parts accumulated to put it back to a full truck and do a resto mod keeping the drivetrain and running gear.

 

that was the first time it had been started in a couple decades.

[MiNi Beast]

ill take the work box. could use it on my ford. 

[JeepcoMJ]

9 minutes ago, MiNi Beast said:

ill take the work box. could use it on my ford. 

Already gone.  Traded it for the winter storage

[MiNi Beast]

good trade. 

[derf]

T18a if it's stock with an NP208.  The T19 only made it into Ford trucks.

[89 MJ]

4 hours ago, JeepcoMJ said:

Thanks.

 

83 J20.  One owner, belonged to local ski hill.  They scrapped it, the owner of the yard saved it for me.  
 

360 4bbl edelbrock t19 granny low sun bro’s 4 speed 4x4 with a Dana 44HD front and Dana 60 full floating rear and 3.73’s, factory buckets but plain Jane otherwise.

 

I've got all the parts accumulated to put it back to a full truck and do a resto mod keeping the drivetrain and running gear.

 

that was the first time it had been started in a couple decades.

My brother has 2 J10s

[JeepcoMJ]

4 hours ago, derf said:

T18a if it's stock with an NP208.  The T19 only made it into Ford trucks.

Not in an 83 j20.  May be correct on transfer case, and I’d even say probably are.  But it’s a t19 for certain, and it’s stock. 

[derf]

3 hours ago, JeepcoMJ said:

Not in an 83 j20.  May be correct on transfer case, and I’d even say probably are.  But it’s a t19 for certain, and it’s stock. 

If it is in fact a T19 it's not stock.

 

Jeep never used the T19.  They used the T18 (close ratio) and T18a (wide ratio with the granny gear).

 

https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/transmissions/manual/t18-t19/

 

All J20 manual trucks starting in 1980 used the T18a.  All J10s starting in 1980 used the close ratio T176.  70s J trucks had the T18/Dana 20 combo.  Some close ratio, some wide ratio.

 

That doesn't mean it couldn't have been swapped at some point but it didn't roll off the assembly line that way.

[Pete M]

novak hasn't got a 100% track record on info.   close though so it's hard to say.  but I wonder if @jdog or @eaglescout526 might be able to find something in the Jeep computers?  maybe?  fingers crossed?

[derf]

https://www.advanceadapters.com/tech-vault/1-borg-warner-t18t19/

 

This one indicates that the T18 in the J20 only ran through 1982.  So it's maybe a swapped in Ford unit in an 83.

 

Regardless, the T19 was only stock in Ford and IH trucks.  It never came from the factory in a Jeep.

[JeepcoMJ]

1 hour ago, derf said:

https://www.advanceadapters.com/tech-vault/1-borg-warner-t18t19/

 

This one indicates that the T18 in the J20 only ran through 1982.  So it's maybe a swapped in Ford unit in an 83.

 

Regardless, the T19 was only stock in Ford and IH trucks.  It never came from the factory in a Jeep.

still wrong.  This truck is now 2 owner and was ordered as it is.  It’s never had custom work beyond the dealer installed service body.

[derf]

1 hour ago, JeepcoMJ said:

still wrong.  This truck is now 2 owner and was ordered as it is.  It’s never had custom work beyond the dealer installed service body.

Let's see the casting numbers on the transmission and the tag on the transfer case.  That will answer the question definitively.

[eaglescout526]

What I might be able to find will be as early as 84 unfortunately. It still might list all transmissions possible. 

[BeatCJ]

@JeepcoMJHow do you know for sure it's a T-19? I have had 3 of them, 2 Ford diesels and the rare 5.11 first gear version. As near as I can tell, externally they are identical to the T-18.

[JeepcoMJ]

15 hours ago, derf said:

Let's see the casting numbers on the transmission and the tag on the transfer case.  That will answer the question definitively.

 

Sure, in about 5 months when I go back and get it out of storage to drop off and have it rebuilt.

 

As it sits, I had someone who worked at the AMC plant in Kenosha 30 minutes away (who is a J truck fan) look it over, and advise me of what it has.  Combine that with the old jeep dealership parts master who is a J truck aficionado advising the same thing, I'll go with their recommendations as to what is in the truck