88whitemanche Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Good morning fellas got an issue right now where my truck doesn’t start...it cranks but doesn’t start... i changed out the crank shaft position sensor and no luck.... checked battery cables (clean and tight) checked started wires (clean and tight) checked starter relay wires (clean and tight) unplugged connectors and all are clean and tight can’t check spark without of help of someone with me I’m at a plaza parking lot and can’t get to work without it.... any other ways I can try it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Have you unplugged and plugged back in the CPS connector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, cruiser54 said: Have you unplugged and plugged back in the CPS connector? Yes I did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 After it has sat for some time ... when you first turn on the key, do you hear the fuel pump running for a few seconds, then stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 6 hours ago, Eagle said: After it has sat for some time ... when you first turn on the key, do you hear the fuel pump running for a few seconds, then stop? Yes, I was able to move the truck back home i had flat towed it with the Cherokee I’ll get to messing with it today if it doesn’t rain... gotta double check the resistance on the cps, Gotta see if I’m really getting spark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, 88whitemanche said: Yes, I was able to move the truck back home i had flat towed it with the Cherokee I’ll get to messing with it today if it doesn’t rain... gotta double check the resistance on the cps, Gotta see if I’m really getting spark Test the OUTPUT of the CPS. Ever cleaned your c101 connector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 The problem with testing the resistance of the CPS is that the test is supposed to be condicted with the engine (and CPS) at operating temperature. It's impossible to do that if the engine won't start. The AC voltage test is a more reliable test of output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 45 minutes ago, cruiser54 said: Test the OUTPUT of the CPS. Ever cleaned your c101 connector? C101 connector was deleted and I’ll check the output today when I get back from work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdock Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I had the same problem a few weeks ago. I had replaced the CPS a few hundred miles ago, so I didn't even check that, but had a MAP sensor from another truck and swapped it in and she fired right up. Also, I put the wire harness where the sensor ground is back in the plastic sleeve. So one or the other might be a fix for you. I haven't had time to swap the MAP sensor back to see if that was the problem or the sensor ground that was redone by previous owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 Just an update... its the fuel pump... swapped in a new airtex one about 2 years and I guess it died.... used starter spray and it cranked right up then died, tried again with starter spray and started up and died again... going to order a Delphi brand one tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 I see rockauto has the carter pump set that mentions having an actual or Bosch pump...should I get that one instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Get the Bosch. You'll get a lot more than two years out of it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bosch-Electric-Fuel-Pump-Kit-69301-Jeep-Cherokee-Comanche-Wrangler-1986-1990/152981215748?epid=1738715865&hash=item239e641a04:g:BQAAAOSwQRlaz8FJ:sc:USPSPriority!35016!US!-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 12 hours ago, HOrnbrod said: Get the Bosch. You'll get a lot more than two years out of it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bosch-Electric-Fuel-Pump-Kit-69301-Jeep-Cherokee-Comanche-Wrangler-1986-1990/152981215748?epid=1738715865&hash=item239e641a04:g:BQAAAOSwQRlaz8FJ:sc:USPSPriority!35016!US!-1 Ordered same part # through amazon prime... thanks bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Quick question: do those Bosch pump kits come with the o-ring for where the sender goes into the tank? I need to fix my gas gauge and while I'm at it I think the Airtex pump in there now needs to take a hike. Would be nice to have everything I need in one purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 I want to say it did... But I had my Bosch put in a year ago so my memory may be foggy. The Delphi pump I initially got did have it for sure, but I can't recommend the Delphi at all. It didn't even come close to fitting. The adapters were total junk. I managed to jury rig it in there with some hose clamps, but it was barely over a week of use before I suddenly couldn't get gas out of the bottom third of the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/6/2018 at 12:07 PM, Minuit said: Quick question: do those Bosch pump kits come with the o-ring for where the sender goes into the tank? I need to fix my gas gauge and while I'm at it I think the Airtex pump in there now needs to take a hike. Would be nice to have everything I need in one purchase. Yes it does but no strainer for some reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/5/2018 at 9:02 PM, HOrnbrod said: Get the Bosch. You'll get a lot more than two years out of it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bosch-Electric-Fuel-Pump-Kit-69301-Jeep-Cherokee-Comanche-Wrangler-1986-1990/152981215748?epid=1738715865&hash=item239e641a04:g:BQAAAOSwQRlaz8FJ:sc:USPSPriority!35016!US!-1 Do you happen to have a strainer on yours? If you do, have the part #? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I didn't get that pump - have the 4.0. But the last Bosch pump I got came with the strainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 10:18 AM, HOrnbrod said: I didn't get that pump - have the 4.0. But the last Bosch pump I got came with the strainer. Ah ok, had reused the strainer from the previous pump... this pump is definitely bigger than the previous one.... but truck fired right up after I primed it and it’s been running good the last 15mins no issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 30 minutes ago, 88whitemanche said: Ah ok, had reused the strainer from the previous pump... this pump is definitely bigger than the previous one.... but truck fired right up after I primed it and it’s been running good the last 15mins no issues Did you check the pressure to be safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 hours ago, HOrnbrod said: Did you check the pressure to be safe? I don’t think the 2.5 has a spot to check fuel pressure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, 88whitemanche said: I don’t think the 2.5 has a spot to check fuel pressure... Isn't there a 1/8" NPT plug on the throttle body for checking fuel pressure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMO413 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 The parts catalog shows a port on the throttle body. It's number 16 in the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Jeep Driver said: How did you get this to work? I don’t recall a nipple on the tb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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