Tanner Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 So is there any remedy to the characteristic driver's side sag with these trucks? I mean I know a lot of heavy components run along that side, so I was just curious if there was a specific reason for that and it needs to be left alone. If not has anyone been able to balance it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91Pioneer Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 The front end of my truck kinda sags on one side. But hey it's got a broken coil spring :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Start taking your dates to the Dairy Whip 4 times a week, you just have a black coffee and give her the Sunday supreme...in 2-3 weeks it will level out :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Lifted mine and it sits level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 You have a vehicle with 26 year old coil springs in it that has had only a driver in it for most of it's life. Mine was a bit leany to the drivers side too. I just did a small lift on mine and it sits level now. That drivers side spring is probably a bit weak and/or sagged a bit. You can either put in new springs, or they sell small spacer shims to go between the spring and chassis to level it (cheaper option). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Start taking your dates to the Dairy Whip 4 times a week, you just have a black coffee and give her the Sunday supreme...in 2-3 weeks it will level out :dunno: While this is amusing, not sure that it will do me any good hahah. You have a vehicle with 26 year old coil springs in it that has had only a driver in it for most of it's life. Mine was a bit leany to the drivers side too. I just did a small lift on mine and it sits level now. That drivers side spring is probably a bit weak and/or sagged a bit. You can either put in new springs, or they sell small spacer shims to go between the spring and chassis to level it (cheaper option). I have actually replaced the front coils, when I did my suspension lift. but I only have helpers in the leaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 All kidding aside....as said above....look at the top of your coil...it sits in what is call a spring isolator ( google an image if you like) you can get an easy lift or level a front from side to side by just adding another isolator or 2 as needed..each adds about 5/8" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 well its more the rear that sags to the left. the front has new coils and shocks and junk but the rear is the original leaf pack with a helper stuck under it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I have newer rear leaf springs as well. You could look into getting the springs re-arched or buying new leaves if you can afford too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyinajeep726 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Swap the leaf packs to the opposite side if that's where the majority of your lean is coming from... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 So is there any remedy to the characteristic driver's side sag with these trucks? What is this "characteristic driver's side sag" to which you refer? Granted, I only own three MJs at the moment, but several others have passed through the Jeep farm, and I know a number of other people who own MJs. I've never once heard anyone complain about a "driver's side sag." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 So is there any remedy to the characteristic driver's side sag with these trucks? What is this "characteristic driver's side sag" to which you refer? Granted, I only own three MJs at the moment, but several others have passed through the Jeep farm, and I know a number of other people who own MJs. I've never once heard anyone complain about a "driver's side sag." Me either. It's not a "characteristic" at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Since joining the forum I recall seeing at least one or two post about it but could not recall the title to be able to find them with a search. But I have even seen several older xj's running around where I live that also tilt a bit to the left. Now this is also my first Mj so It was really more of an assumption based on the fact I had seen a couple of other post about it and seen a few Xj's here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I've had this on my mj and 2 xjs... idk why...even with fresh suspension But it's most common with jeeps I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I've also seen complaints about this for Rangers and a few other small trucks and SUV's. My MJ is in line for new springs. It doesn't lean, but it's got a helper spring on the shock on the driver's side, so I imagine it would without it. Between the fuel tank and the driver sitting in that side, with me and a full tank of fuel, that's approaching an extra 400 lbs that the passenger side isn't carrying, which will wear things out faster. And that's the explanation that always comes up. But that said, my broken coil spring was on passenger side, so ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I've had this on my mj and 2 xjs... idk why...even with fresh suspension But it's most common with jeeps I guess... If we're dealing in assigning "characteristics" on the basis of anecdotal observations ("I saw one like that last week and another one three years ago"), I'd say mid-80s Chevy pickups are MUCH more prone to suffering "characteristic driver's side sag" than MJs. Come on, people. The newest MJ around is 24 years old at this point. They ARE trucks. It's not realistic to criticize the design or construction when you're dealing with a truck that's two decades old and you have no idea who has been driving it or how badly it has been abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 True...I don't mind it Just threw my mix in the pile... Aslong as mine doesn't hurt me from dd duties and off-road weekend warrior duties... I'm good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Now we are just quibbling over semantics haha. It really wasn't that serious, I simply didn't know how else to title it at the time and thought "no big deal". Guess I was wrong. Also it is still a correct statement. It is still Characteristic of an old jeep (or other vehicle of your choosing) to sag to the heavier side of the truck if the suspension parts are not replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekaz1 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I'm guessing the "drivers side sag" is a combination of the gas tank and a fat driver over many years just wearing the springs (both front and rear) slightly more over the last 25 years replace springs and I'm sure itd look fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Also it is still a correct statement. It is still Characteristic of an old jeep (or other vehicle of your choosing) to sag to the heavier side of the truck if the suspension parts are not replaced. But it is NOT a characteristic of old Jeeps (or old vehicles of any description) unless most such vehicles exhibit the same behavior. I currently own an 87 MJ and two '88 MJs. Others that have passed through my hands include three 86s and an 89. My buddy down the road had an '87, another friend has an '89. A guy I work with has an '87. None of them exhibit sag to either side, and I can't recall ever seeing or hearing of one with significant sag to the driver's side. If it doesn't affect a significant majority of the vehicles, it isn't a "characteristic," no matter how badly one or two isolated vehicles might have failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVPete Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 The only "driver's side sag" I am aware of is the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 My drivers seat has a lean to it thanks to a large driver in it's past. Not saying that I'm a small guy at 6'4 and 270, but it's rather annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 My drivers seat has a lean to it thanks to a large driver in it's past. Not saying that I'm a small guy at 6'4 and 270, but it's rather annoying. The seat, that I agree with. The stock bench seat in my red '88 is badly bent/broken down on the outer edge. I think that's partially due to the 4" lift that was in the truck when I bought it. I'm 6'-1" and the lift put the seat at just the height that my entire weight had to slide over the extreme edge and outer front corner of the seat when entering or exiting the truck. Once I had removed the lift, my feet could reach the ground for a normal mount or dismount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekaz1 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I'm anal about sliding off the seat, in both my TJ and MJ I put my hand in the door sill first and hold my weight up and kind of mini jump/ pivot out without sliding my weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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