Paul Bruchal Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 2JZ swap? n/a or boosted? I'm really thinking about doing this to my Eliminator only if my engine blows someday. The n/a swap. N/a has 220 hp! thats all in need but do you guys think that a dana 44 rear would hold up to that? or dana 60? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bruchal Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 I just found youtube vids... does anyone know build thread links? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexia Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Helps if you give us information so we know what you are talking about! I would not want two bass boosted rappers running my Jeep. Bad enough just having one around. Shooting for 220HP from an engine swap is a silly goal when you are generally starting from 195HP with the 4.0L HO. Putting a stroker engine in place of a non-HO 4.0L since it would be nearly a 100HP increase over the stock engine. Now if you are planning to shoot for some crazy boost off a crazy Japanese engine that is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny quest Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 it's not into an MJ, but here's a pic of that swap done; this particlar one is on the bottle too i have nothing useful to add, sorry :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I too, do not know what a 2JZ is, nor do I feel like looking it up. But where theres a will, theres a way. If this is something you really want to do, no one is stopping you.... and yes a Dana 44 rear will hold up just fine to 220 HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankTheDog Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 ZJ's came with a 220hp or so V8. They had an aluminum Dana 44. If your going to drift your MJ it might be a good swap. The 2jz has 220 hp at close to 6,000 rpm and torque peak at around 4,500 which means no low end. For all that work and marginal results it's not worth it. If you want power drop a 5.3 LS motor in it. 300hp, lighter a heck of a lot more parts laying around in yards. Read up on it on Novak Adapters web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bruchal Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Alright... I'm srry for not telling you guy what a 2JZ is, I just assumed erbody knew what it was. #1 I do not like or listen to the rapper JZ.. #2 I am probably the biggest JDM fan on this forum. #3 2JZ is the engine code for the engine in the MKIV Toyota Twin Turbo Supra. A N/A version is available that came in the Lexus SC300. The non turbo 2JZ had 220 hp. and thats the was I was thinking about swaping. I only found swaps into Jeeps that where boosted not N/A. If this swap isnt worth it, Id want to do 4BT... """The UPS truck engine"""swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave92cherokee Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1033211 There's a link to an ongoing thread on naxja about just such a swap, don't know how in depth or long the thread is though. If/when I replace the engine it will most likely be a 4.7 stroker for the ease of the swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Alright... I'm srry for not telling you guy what a 2JZ is, I just assumed erbody knew what it was. This is a Jeep board. Why would you assume that ANYONE here might know the product code for some Toyota engine? A N/A version is available that came in the Lexus SC300. "N/A" is the acronym for "Not Applicable" or "Not Available." How can a version that is not available come in anything? Sorry, but you're still not making a lot of sense here ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bruchal Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 I thought N/A is Natural Aspiration. ya know, not Force Induction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexia Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I thought N/A is Natural Aspiration. ya know, not Force Induction. I got that, but never saw some one abbreviate it like that. Must be a JDM forum thing. :D Got rid of both my Hondas. D: A nice light horsepower monster would be a great swap to make a drift Comanche. I really considered doing a Driftmanche, but I have all the parts just laying around to make a nice lifted off road Comanche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bruchal Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 I thought N/A is Natural Aspiration. ya know, not Force Induction. I got that, but never saw some one abbreviate it like that. Must be a JDM forum thing. :D Got rid of both my Hondas. D: A nice light horsepower monster would be a great swap to make a drift Comanche. I really considered doing a Driftmanche, but I have all the parts just laying around to make a nice lifted off road Comanche. I drift my Eliminator everytime it rains and I have gas in the tank. It would be awesome to make a driftmanche. i just got back from a drift event today. streetwisedrift.com. I'm just surprised that there are not alot of gear heads on CC today. I lived my life in both worlds, 4x4 Jeeps and the Import scene, so I know alot! about the both worlds and I try to put the best of both worlds together and see what I come up with. My dream is to have a bad azz Jeep MJ and a nice clean Hellaflush car and live in Japan. :drool: :rotf: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I went through all 5o some pages of that build last night, and I have to admit, it looks to be pretty badazz. The guy doing it did great work too. That thing will be awesome when hes finished with the bodywork and interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnkyboy Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I don't think it would be a good swap in a 4x4,you would be giving up too much displacement and losing a lot of low end grunt. The Toyota 2JZ is a great engine, just not in this application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bruchal Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 I never said that my 2 MJs are both crawlers.... I ""might"" make that drift MJ out of one. maybe :rotf: :D But if I did blow the engine in my Eliminator "the Crawler", 4bt swap then. I know that 4 cyl diesel is torque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnkyboy Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The 4bt has torque but it also wieghs as much or more then a big block V8 If I was gonna drift an MJ I would probably do an LS swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bruchal Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 The 4bt has torque but it also wieghs as much or more then a big block V8 If I was gonna drift an MJ I would probably do an LS swap The drift event I went to yesterday had atleast 5! LS1 swaps. I always want to go a different way. Thats why I have a Flatbed MJ! lol Scratch off what I said about making one of my MJs a driftmanche. I forgot its going to be my towing truck since its the cleanest of the 2. Id have to buy a 3rd MJ for the drifting. 1 for crawling 1 for towing 1 for drifting :shake: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche1987 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I rolled my stock toyota truck (22r/4speed) drifting it. trucks are better for doing work but theres no reason you can't have a little fun as well. A 2JZ is a overpriced terrible swap in my opinion. Your going about things all wrong, Torque what you need with a heavy box like a MJ if you want to try to go fast. A stock 4.8/5.3 V8 chevrolet is very small for a V8 and powerful. The weakest 4.8L has 255HP and 285Ft lbs of torque. The weakest 5.3 270HP/315ft lbs of torque. These are all STOCK numbers, and these engines respond very well to mods and I bet they weigh less than a 4.0L and bring most of the engine mass to a lower center of gravity. From where I have read about those turbochargining they have made insane amounts of power on stock engines. The chevrolet will also allow you to still have the ability to use a 4x4 setup, 500whp 4 wheel drive jeep=fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bruchal Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 I wana be close to this low! lmao Just better looking=] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knever3 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 It's all what you make of it, a 2JZ engine is an awesome car engine setup for an aerodynamic car body. It would work for our trucks but have fun with the electronics and dash instrumentation. Any modern engine would be cumbersome and costly. My bet is the new 3.5L Ford Ecoboost, all alluminum 350hp and 420lb/ft of torque, like the Geico lizzard says: Forgetaboutit!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Patches Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 If you were going to make a drift MJ I'd use a 1jz turbo cause it cost the same as a N/A 2jz, even with one with a single turbo swap are cheaper then a stock 2jz, plus think about suspension first before an engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bruchal Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 If you were going to make a drift MJ I'd use a 1jz turbo cause it cost the same as a N/A 2jz, even with one with a single turbo swap are cheaper then a stock 2jz, plus think about suspension first before an engine All the turbo cars my friends ever had they were a headache. And you said 1JZ is the same as N/A 2JZ, Id rather go with non turbo. Or do you mean they make the same power? I still rather have the non turbo 2JZ. Then I wouldnt have to wait for the boost to build up, and thats another positive about N/A. No turbo Lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnkyboy Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 1JZ is a 2.5l the 2JZ is a 3.0l both were offered in a GE (N/A). And GTE (Turbo) versions. I wouldn't consider either without the turbo,as its what makes them perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Patches Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 If your worried about lag run a small turbo ,plus I don't think your going to making more then 300whp, so lag really isn't a problem. and you could always invest in a anti lag system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 If this swap isnt worth it, Id want to do 4BT... """The UPS truck engine"""swap UPS uses a lot of different engines in their trucks including IH, Benz and yes, Cummins. But not the 4BT, though. They use a detuned 6BT. Some Chevy/GMC step vans commonly used for bread trucks used the 4BT, hence the nickname "Crummins". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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