acfortier Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Need new leaf springs for my 88, will the stock Metric Tonne springs from HellsCreek work even though I don't have a Metric Tonne truck package? Trying to keep it as low cost as possible
1tonMJ Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 As far as I know, they will work. I have had 2K lbs in my non-metric ton 88 MJ. :dunno:
Automan2164 Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Yep, they are a direct bolt in. The only difference is they have a higher load capacity. Rob L.
btm24 Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Oh and if your truck is a 2wd the springs will me higher by like an inch. It will take a bit for them to settle. Brandon
acfortier Posted February 13, 2011 Author Posted February 13, 2011 Another question, are the stock springs from Hell Creek a pair of two or just one? I'm confused when it says "HC-MJ-2200 Jeep MJ Metric Ton Rear Springs" if it means both sides or just one.
btm24 Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 It means one i thought the same. And don't forget you get 10% off if your from CC. If you have any more ?'s just call them up Tom. he's super great. Brandon
acfortier Posted February 13, 2011 Author Posted February 13, 2011 Ah alright. Interesting how it's cheaper to go for a 3" lift leaf spring than a stock Metric Tonne one.
jeepcoma Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 The MT springs are rated for higher capacity, they are a beefier heavy duty unit rather than just a stock spring with different arch. If upgrading from a 2wd stock spring, you will end up with "lift" from doing this swap. IIRC, there's a 1-2" difference between the normal 2wd springs and 4wd springs, but additionally the higher load rating of the MT springs will compress less under the weight of the frame and bed, resulting in some additional height (which won't ever settle, until the springs wear out and sag). Going from 2wd springs to MT springs might net you with 3" lift after all is said and done. The Hell's Creek MT springs are a great kit, but honestly, if you're trying to get by on low cost I think there are better options out there. The MT springs aren't cheap, and if you want to do anything serious cargo hauling you'll need quality ubolts, shocks, possibly shackles if yours are rusted... which will easily add another $150-250 to the price. And that's not even considering the D35 or it's smaller brakes.
acfortier Posted February 13, 2011 Author Posted February 13, 2011 The MT springs are rated for higher capacity, they are a beefier heavy duty unit rather than just a stock spring with different arch. If upgrading from a 2wd stock spring, you will end up with "lift" from doing this swap. IIRC, there's a 1-2" difference between the normal 2wd springs and 4wd springs, but additionally the higher load rating of the MT springs will compress less under the weight of the frame and bed, resulting in some additional height (which won't ever settle, until the springs wear out and sag). Going from 2wd springs to MT springs might net you with 3" lift after all is said and done. The Hell's Creek MT springs are a great kit, but honestly, if you're trying to get by on low cost I think there are better options out there. The MT springs aren't cheap, and if you want to do anything serious cargo hauling you'll need quality ubolts, shocks, possibly shackles if yours are rusted... which will easily add another $150-250 to the price. And that's not even considering the D35 or it's smaller brakes. Do you have any recommendations for a better option? I don't think there is any other way around it, the 3rd leaf down on the passenger's side is completely broken in half.
JeepcoMJ Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 mine gave me around 2.5" lift in the rear...
JeepsOLot Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Is this a Metric Ton spring? Looks a little too wimpy to me. This is an '86 Long Bed, had the 2.8, auto, and still has the D44. Image Not Found Thanks Jerry
jpdriver1 Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Yep, they are a direct bolt in. The only difference is they have a higher load capacity. Rob L. I'm currently set up that way as I rebuild my oem d44
gogmorgo Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 :offtopic: but is it just me, or is there something weird going on with that brake valve? Image Not Found
COMJNUT Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 :offtopic: but is it just me, or is there something weird going on with that brake valve? very common. when one of our MJ's go on a mechanics lift or the suspension is fully flexed in droop, everything on it get's out of place. and back on topic...the d35 will die sooner because it will be the failing point when adding that amount of weight that the springs can take.
Eagle Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Is this a Metric Ton spring? Looks a little too wimpy to me. This is an '86 Long Bed, had the 2.8, auto, and still has the D44. Image Not Found Something isn't right. The Dana 44 wasn't offered in 1986. The '86 heavy-duty axle was the AMC Model 20. My old eyes are having trouble seeing your spring clearly, but that spring looks like a 3+1. I don't think that's a metric ton spring. I believe they were either 3+2 or 4+1, depending on year.
benjy_26 Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Not meaning to hijack, but what's the difference between the 3+2 and the 4+1 MT spring packs? Is one more desireable than the other?
HOrnbrod Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Payload is a little higher on the 3+2, 1700 lbs. vs. 1440 lbs. for the 4+1.
Jeep Driver Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Just because the springs may carry the weight doesn't mean that axle will.
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