my86mj Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 post pics asap when you do flat flares. I'm planning on doing them but want to know what theyll look like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COFFMAN Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Car,nt wait to see how ya new look looks. have admired your o so clean factory look. GREAT build :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rymanrph Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 Whats included in the 3" lift? Mileage on it, etc? Put me first in line and congrats on the purchases! I loved my Clayton's stuff and it took some serious abuse. RockMJ The lift will at least be the Hell Creek 3" leaf springs (with bushings), shocks all around and possibly the U-bolts. I'm not going to include the front coils for two reasons: the first being that I'm going to use them with the ACOS and I'd rather not buy another set of springs since I have some already. The second is that if I were going to do the 3" HC springs in the back again, I'd pair them with a 3.5" spring upfront. Before deciding to do the SOA and ACOS, I had considered buying a set of 3.5" coils or some 3/4" spacers because I've been rubbing so much on my bumper end caps. I've only got about 7k miles on the lift (and the tires). Do you have any advice for the flat flares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMJ Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Sounds good on the lift. I can pick up a set of RE 3.5" coils no problem. Just let me know when your ready to sell the stuff and ill take it. As for the fender flares, if I knew now how they fit before cutting the body I would have been better off. Point being, for the rears you are almost better off not removing the lip of the fender like the directions tell you to and instead just drilling holes lower and bending that seam inwards to fit them better. I did not have this information before I started cutting and at that point it was all but too late. Biggest bit of advice I can give you is be patient and take your time. Measure, measure, and measure again. I made them work but I'm not 100% pleased with the way the rears are. Thats mainly due to me being super picky about things. Ill likely take them off at some point and try my hand at making them fit better somehow. Hope that helps, but if you have any questions just ask man RockMJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Comanche4x4 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Sounds good on the lift. I can pick up a set of RE 3.5" coils no problem. Just let me know when your ready to sell the stuff and ill take it. As for the fender flares, if I knew now how they fit before cutting the body I would have been better off. Point being, for the rears you are almost better off not removing the lip of the fender like the directions tell you to and instead just drilling holes lower and bending that seam inwards to fit them better. I did not have this information before I started cutting and at that point it was all but too late. Biggest bit of advice I can give you is be patient and take your time. Measure, measure, and measure again. I made them work but I'm not 100% pleased with the way the rears are. Thats mainly due to me being super picky about things. Ill likely take them off at some point and try my hand at making them fit better somehow. Hope that helps, but if you have any questions just ask man RockMJ were they designed for the cherokee or for the comanche? i want some too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rymanrph Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 I spoke to Carolina Truggies today and I am on their schedule for the re-gear and the SOA conversion for July 9th. I decided to stay with the Chrysler 8.25, so I need to swing by the junk yard and pick one up in the coming weeks. I was all set on Duratracs again when I thought about 33s. Now that I'm leaning toward 35s, I was disappointed to find that Goodyear doesn't make a Duratrac in 35x12.50x15. The BFG all terrain just isn't aggressive enough for me, but its a very light tire. The General Grabber AT 2 is relatively inexpensive, slightly more aggressive, but its a lot heavier. The next best option seems to be the BFG KM2. I had them on my TJ and really liked them. They are very light, but I'm having a hard time finding a good deal on them. They've gone up almost $50 a piece since I bought mine for the TJ. I can't seem to find any for under $1,000 shipped (for four). I think they are on national back order any way. Discount tire has four sets coming in on the 25th and only one set isn't accounted for. I'm tempted to go ahead and get them and hope that they work. I'd hate to not get these and then have to wait 6 weeks once I make a decision to get them. But then if I get them and decide I really want 33s... I really wish I could just get a set of 33s and 35s, mount them both and see how they look before I commit. I ordered a track bar for 4-6" of lift. I'm starting to think I may need to swap it out for the 6-8" version. I guess it just depends on what my 2wd leafs give me in the back. I still want to keep some rake. I'm starting to stress a bit since so much money is involved and I don't want to "mess up" my truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinMJ Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Have you checked tirerack.com . I have found they have tge cheapest prices but shipping us high. Thats when you call 4wheelparts and get them to price match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rymanrph Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 The first of the parts are here! I also got my quick disconnects. More on the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam518 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 You'll dig the ACOS...I love them on my XJ. Aside from fine tuning the front to rear rake, they are also great for getting it perfectly level from side to side, too. You'll also have the flexibility to tweak the height later on if you change front bumpers, add a winch, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMJ Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I used the ACOS setup on my ZJ and after my V8 swap they helped level everything out. Youll love them! RockMJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rymanrph Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 The Clayton long arms have arrived (cross member not pictured)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500 MJ Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Those look very familiar, I'm looking forward to watching the install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rymanrph Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 My spring over axle conversion kit (perches, shock mounts, etc.), Bushwackers and wheels came in today. Still waiting on the track bar which should be in any day now. I need to go ahead and order my new 8.25. I should be able to pick it up maybe next Friday. I want to mock up the suspension this weekend so I can decide between 33s and 35s. Then I just have to pick a tire. From there it will be a wait until the first of July when my re-gear is completed. At that point I can install the long arms, the new axle, ACOS and measure for bump stops and shocks. Summer is going to be half over before I finish this. I can't wait to show you guys my wheel choice. Some of you guys will hate it while others will totally love it. I haven't decided which camp I'm in yet. Not quite ready to show yet though; give me a week and a half or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rymanrph Posted June 1, 2012 Author Share Posted June 1, 2012 Well, I got one bushwacker flare on. I will be busy all weekend, but I've got Monday off, so hopefully I can get at least the other front one done. I'm picking up the new 8.25 Monday morning too. Photobucket isn't cooperating right now, so hopefully the picture will show up at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinMJ Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Looks great. Lets see the wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COFFMAN Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Looks great. Lets see the wheels? Yer show us ya wheels....... 16" or 17" ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rymanrph Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 The wheels are 15s. I wanted a C class tire and they are easier to find with a 15" wheel. Tires are much cheaper too. Plus the wheel I picked didn't even come in the finish I wanted in a 16" or a 17". I should be able to show you something next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Comanche4x4 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Show us the wheels! I'm leaving Monday for 3 months no Internet and I'm curious haha Sweet build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMJ Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Almost sounds like you chose the MT Black Classic Locks. They only make them for our BP in 15's, but they are sexy wheels. MJ looks good man! RockMJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COFFMAN Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Almost sounds like you chose the MT Black Classic Locks. They only make them for our BP in 15's, but they are sexy wheels. MJ looks good man! RockMJ I was thinking M/T sidebitters thats why i said 16s or 17s all in good time ........ Them flat bush wackers do look so cool :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rymanrph Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 I got the other front Bushwacker installed. I cut the fender liner too short on the driver side, but I'm not going to sweat it for now. The back two will have to wait until next weekend. I also picked up my new 8.25: You can see my improvised bed mat in there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backdraft Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Are you going to keep the drums on the 8.25 or swap to KJ discs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rymanrph Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 Are you going to keep the drums on the 8.25 or swap to KJ discs? I guess it depends on how much it costs. KJs aren't in the pull a parts here. I haven't really read much about the swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam518 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I used ZJ rear discs on my 8.25". All you have to do is open up the center hole in the caliper bracket because the axle tube on the 8.25 is larger than the tube on the ZJ...they all had D35's. It is simple to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW86 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 really. youd probably have an easier time finding the ZJ discs than KJs. i don't think ive ever seen a KJ in the local pull a part yards down here. the more expensive "jeep only" yards yes, but who is going to pay those prices :shake: if you go ZJ, grab the tie rod for a quick, cheap upgrade. has to be a V8 ZJ though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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