jimoshel Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Is there a sure fire way to ID the metric tonne package? Seems I read someplace, thot it was here but can't find it, that they had 4 leaves as compared to 3. However all 4 of my MJ'S have 4 leafs. one '88 and one '89 has Dana 44's original. One '89 has 44's been added. and one '88 has the Dana 35. Would think the GVW label would say but it's illegible. The VIN for the '89's give the GVW but not metric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPB Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 What is your reason for wanting a metric ton modle. the only reason I could think of is the dana 44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyc Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 All Metric Tons were longbeds, for one. And some, if not all, had a Metric Ton badge on the tailgate. Besides that :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Uh... they have more load capacity. That's why it's called what it is. And it's mainly 5 leaves vs. 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 :agree: 5 leaves VS 4 standard, D44, also, the vin will give up the Metric ton package in the "model" numbers of the vin. I have rarely seen the Metric ton badges... I wouldn't rely on those. The last couple years of the MJ were weird too, because short beds could be found with the D44 also... As a rule though, with jeep, there are no rules. :D Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 6, 2009 Author Share Posted December 6, 2009 The one '89 is a short box with 44, 2.5 and AX15. The other 3 are long boxes with 4.0 and AX15. And my reason for wanting to know is because I just like to know what I've got. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philistine Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Rob has a VIN checker you can use here: http://www.comanchemj.1hwy.com/custom3.html I had similar questions with my MJ as it has an AMC20 but 4 leafs. Turns out it's just one of those wierd Jeeps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowey Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 :agree: 5 leaves VS 4 standard, D44, also, the vin will give up the Metric ton package in the "model" numbers of the vin. I have rarely seen the Metric ton badges... I wouldn't rely on those. The last couple years of the MJ were weird too, because short beds could be found with the D44 also... As a rule though, with jeep, there are no rules. :D Rob L. Hmmm... I see one of those "rare' metric Ton badges every day on my tailgate... :nanner: But OP.. its in the VIN number. 1986 F,G,H,J In position 8 is metric ton. Renix era F,R,U In postion 8 is metric ton. But a 1 in that position is custom ordered so that also could be a metric ton. Chrysler era.. don't know for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Hmmm... I see one of those "rare' metric Ton badges every day on my tailgate... :nanner: What a jerk. :( Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche09 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Anyone running metric ton springs on a short bed? Any issues with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 they shouldn't have any troubles. all the stuff is swappable. Jeep simply chose not to offer it on the shortbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gjeep Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I'm running MT springs on my shortbed. No issues and plenty of lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I'm running MT springs on my shortbed. No issues and plenty of lift. How rough is it? Does it plex at all off road? Where in CA are you located? I'd love to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche09 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Yeah how does she ride? I stiffened up the front end with the XJ Upcountry springs (rides like a truck should). Want to match the rear as close as possible and I like overbuilding stuff.. :brows: Do they provide any lift vs OEM 4x4 non MT springs? Is there a difference in ride height between 2wd and 4x4 MT springs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 My 86 metric ton never struck me as rough riding, nor was it much if any higher than a regular 4x4 MJ. But individual results will vary as widely as the sag in 20 year old leafs. A shortbed does have slightly less steel back there to hold up. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gjeep Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I probably gained close to 3 inches of lift over my stock 4x4 leafs with 100K on them. I haven't wheeled the truck, nor do I plan to. But looking at the leaf pack, I doubt it flexes much as it has 2 thick overloads on it as part of the factory MT pack in 89. To balance things out in the front (in terms of ride and height) I am running OME 934 coils with a 3/4" spacer. Looks good with a slight 'rake' to it's stance. I've driven on it with the new suspension all of 2500 miles before I parked it close to 9 years ago. It handled great in the turns, but I don't think that's what you're going for... I am currently getting back to work on this truck and have plenty to do. Most everything is gutted and in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 admittedly my 86 has the normal looking leafpack. later years had the funky thick lower leafs thing going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I probably gained close to 3 inches of lift over my stock 4x4 leafs with 100K on them. I haven't wheeled the truck, nor do I plan to. But looking at the leaf pack, I doubt it flexes much as it has 2 thick overloads on it as part of the factory MT pack in 89. To balance things out in the front (in terms of ride and height) I am running OME 934 coils with a 3/4" spacer. Looks good with a slight 'rake' to it's stance. I've driven on it with the new suspension all of 2500 miles before I parked it close to 9 years ago. It handled great in the turns, but I don't think that's what you're going for... I am currently getting back to work on this truck and have plenty to do. Most everything is gutted and in progress. 'k. I am looking for about 1" more lift over my current set up after I add about 300# of tubing witht he same flex. Right now I have a stock MJ leaf pack with an XJ main leaf in there and it flexes REALLY good but it doesn't take weight well (soft). I have MANY various leafs at the house including the same leafs you have (S-10, XJ, regular MJ, 1 ton MJ, etc.). I was thinking about removing the two (ridiculous) overloads and putting a bunch of regular leafs with arches. I will eventually post up my findings. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche09 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I probably gained close to 3 inches of lift over my stock 4x4 leafs with 100K on them. I haven't wheeled the truck, nor do I plan to. But looking at the leaf pack, I doubt it flexes much as it has 2 thick overloads on it as part of the factory MT pack in 89. To balance things out in the front (in terms of ride and height) I am running OME 934 coils with a 3/4" spacer. Looks good with a slight 'rake' to it's stance. I've driven on it with the new suspension all of 2500 miles before I parked it close to 9 years ago. It handled great in the turns, but I don't think that's what you're going for... I am currently getting back to work on this truck and have plenty to do. Most everything is gutted and in progress. MT springs sound like the perfect solution for my rig. 2wd 102k springs to new MT's would effectively yield near 4" of lift if I read that right. And would get rid of my slight negative rake... :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I do believe that hell creek makes mt packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Right now I have a stock MJ leaf pack with an XJ main leaf in there and it flexes REALLY good but it doesn't take weight well (soft). I'm thinking of doing exactly that. I have a couple of sets of XJ spring packs here I can cannibalize. Did adding the XJ leaf produce any lift at all, or just increase the spring rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gjeep Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 You will get ~ 3" of lift from a new set of MT springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Right now I have a stock MJ leaf pack with an XJ main leaf in there and it flexes REALLY good but it doesn't take weight well (soft). I'm thinking of doing exactly that. I have a couple of sets of XJ spring packs here I can cannibalize. Did adding the XJ leaf produce any lift at all, or just increase the spring rate? It was about an 1.25" of lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyc Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 It was about an 1.25" of lift. Were those the main leaves that you got from me? I got closer to 2" when I had them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 It was about an 1.25" of lift. Were those the main leaves that you got from me? I got closer to 2" when I had them on. Not really. Those sort of got lost over at Russ's :doh: They were another pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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