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did you try searching under "detailing" or similar keywords? i seem to remember a thread on detailing and there was a member how is a long time professional detailer.

bullet hole in the left rear wheel hump of the cargo area? :dunno:

as a 2 wheel lover, all i can say is verrrry nice!

:doh: :oops: Heyyyy, the top of your tape measure is inside the wheel well in the second picture. That's gotta be throwing it off by at LEAST 2". :shake: :dunce: :yes:

keep digging, the info is out there some where. have you tried to get the vin sequence for the last 100 MJs? i know it's kind of the same question you already asked, but sometimes it depends on what you are truly asking for. if it takes human effort to look up just your VIN, they probably won't do it. but if they can forward or cut and paste a range of VINS from that last production cycle, you can kinda figure out where you are. :dunno:

That is not accurate. Factory Metric Ton springs did not sit 2" to 3" higher than standard springs. They might have sat maybe 1" higher, but a friend of a friend has an '89 MT longbed that he bought new. My friend maintains it for him, I have seen it numerous times, and I don't think it sits any higher than any other MJ I've seen. The Metric Ton package added capacity, not lift. It was not intended as an off-road package, it was an on-road package. Ok, then ask Hornbrod why his 3+2s sit 2-3" higher than stock. And then ask Tom from Hellcreek if his 3+2s are factory spec or not (they are), and if they sit higher than stock springs (they do). Then look at this picture of jpcodave's truck. Those are 3+2s. If you tell me that truck sits the same height as std load springs, then you need to check in to the clinic for your drug addiction. :nuts: And that ain't no "maybe an inch" higher, that's every bit of 2-3". AND, nobody said anything about MT springs being for, or part of, an off-road pkg. :hmm: I think 98% of us know it was for load capacity. :idea: While typing this correction to your statements (LOL), I think I may have solved the mystery. My bet is that the design of 4+1 MT packs sit fairly close to std load spring height, but that the design (free arch) of the 3+2s sits substantially higher, plus they are rated for about 300+ lbs. more load than the 4+1s. That's my theory and I'm sticking it................because I'm right. :smart: :D

dude, truck looks great, but something's not right with your front wheels, i.e. your driver side. also, great job on the interior, are you gonna swap on the newer doors too? that would finish out the great look in the cab IMO.

that's worth at least $1000 on eBay! :yes: forget the email for finding out the production number, you need to get on the phone with someone and keep calling until they tell you what we all want to hear....the LAST MJ. :bowdown:

CW Darren :fool: Me :rotfl2:

per pack, or $312 + shipping for a set. still not a bad price IMO.

Motion offroad has good reviews? LOL, on the product, yes I believe most have been happy with them. Now, regarding their past subversive marketing approach on here, that's another debate LOL.

both of those guys sell MT packs. actually, i believe hellcreeks are to factory spec and motion sells std load rating and "HD" load rating. all of motion's are "lift" springs, you can just get them in different load capacities. hellcreek has lift springs in std load rating and MT load rating. but they also make the 3+2 MT springs to factory spec and they are not "lift" springs, but on their own they reportedly sit @2-3" higher than std load springs, which, again, is accurate with how it was from the factory. i don't think i'm 100% accurate on all of this, but maybe those guys will catch this thread and chime in, or you can PM them. :thumbsup:

sorry about that, i ASSumed you wanted lift springs. i believe hellcreek may be able to make you std springs also. if not, i think a company called General Spring out of Kansas City might make them, possibly could get them through JC Whitney.

check out hellcreek suspensions and motion off-road. both are members on here (hellcreek and "lead not follow" screen names). hellcreek mfr's their own leaf springs, motion off-road out-sources them, both have good reviews from owners on here.

need some playa's!! c'mon fellas, this is a great time!

start a poll on it. :rotfl2:

Rob, I'm disappointed, this was a relatively hot topic on the "random comanches" sticky just a couple weeks ago. :fool: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=112&start=300

schweeeeet. i love this place. :bowdown:

thanks for the input dave and willy. Willy, that's part of what I was looking for as a response, is if it was worthwhile since I have no experience if that minor change would make a difference. Price just seemed to good to pass up if they would work. Fair enough then, sometime down the road I'll just stick to the original plan and go to 410's then. Not in a hurry so no big deal. :thumbsup:

need some help to clarify exactly what this guy is selling but if he's got 3.73s for $50, i may jump. i'm assuming these came out of his 05 Unlimited in his sig. i have an 88 w/factory 44 and "trac-lock". i'm 90% certain i have 3.55s, pulls too strong to be 3-oh-7s with my 31s, and too low rpms on the highway to be 4-tens. these are only 30 mins away from me and I think 373's would be my "goldilocks" set. You know, "355s too tall, 410s too low, 373s juuuuusst right". http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=835834 All input appreciated. 8)

at 130lbs, if it's a "busty" man, that would be EXTRA weird. i just saw a headline on msn.com or something the other day saying craigslist finally agreed to remove ad services for her type of services. what's a girl to do to market herself these days? sheesh!

See http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/clunkers.asp that's good to know. obviously it was a big enough problem of misinterpretation that they changed the wording on it. some idiot probably still lost their job over it.

Anybody heard from TAZ? I suppose with school and the new job, he's a tad bit busy right now. Just surprised we haven't heard from him on the new job.

wow, that looks crazy nice, and for $800?! awesome. how's the rust? interior? what did you do with the sweet turbine wheels and BFG M/T's? :thumbsup:

HellCreek's screen name is...............................HellCreek. :yes: