Swampy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I think I have a problem.... I have only truly taken my mj out wheeling once on 35s and I havent truly found the limit of my set up and I am already looking at 37s. Has there ever been a time when you were running 35s and wished you had bigger tires? I know I will get the question of what to you plan on doing with your truck, and to that I answer everything... if that's possible ?? Ideally a streetable trail rig, something to hit almost all the offroad parks between Florida and Washington state. It seems commonplace to just see everything on 40+ tires. Can 35s do almost everything (except like hardcore buggy lines)?? Pic of my current set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi Beast Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 35s are great. i enjoy my 37s loved my 40s once looked forward to 31s. 35-37s i feel are a great weekend wheeler tire size. if your gearing and suspension is setup for tire size you can have many adventures with the reliability of a overall functional rig. most large tires obstacles are typically found where your looking for it but even then there is usually a better line or more capable line to choose per your setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Some trails only allow up to 37s. Also, if you are looking for on road manners, the sidewall will have more flex as you go with a larger tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neohic Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I’d say that so much of it is the driver and picking the right line. My old Cherokee was on 33s but I’d keep up with rigs on 37”+ tires. I’m currently dreaming of the day of building a new trail rig and it’s tough keeping words like “streetable” in mind. Having fond memories of the XJ makes me appreciate a “small tire” rig in that they’re light weight and there’s less strain on the drivetrain. What is it that makes you want to bigger already? If you figure ground clearance, it’d only be another inch but your axles will definitely feel the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 52 minutes ago, 89 MJ said: Some trails only allow up to 37s. Also, if you are looking for on road manners, the sidewall will have more flex as you go with a larger tire. Very good points. The tire weight difference between 35/37 can be really significant. MJs sure do look good though on 37’s with the right lift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 53 minutes ago, neohic said: What is it that makes you want to bigger already? If you figure ground clearance, it’d only be another inch but your axles will definitely feel the difference. Honestly I don't know... I guess just chasing the next size. I had hardly any ground clearance issues when I went wheeling, and mostly the rock sliders more than made up for potential damage. 13 minutes ago, ghetdjc320 said: Very good points. The tire weight difference between 35/37 can be really significant. MJs sure do look good though on 37’s with the right lift MJs do look good with 37s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 you really need to start upgrading axles if you get over 35s in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, 89eliminator said: you really need to start upgrading axles if you get over 35s in my opinion I know. Just axles swaps are a lot of money, even the cheapest option of a waggy 44 front is some coin. So I was asking if 35's are enough for people or if they felt tire size was a limiting factor. I would do the waggy swap but I feel like I'm losing something from going to a lp from a hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Swampy said: I know. Just axles swaps are a lot of money, even the cheapest option of a waggy 44 front is some coin. So I was asking if 35's are enough for people or if they felt tire size was a limiting factor. I would do the waggy swap but I feel like I'm losing something from going to a lp from a hp. A low pinion Waggy 44 is still stronger than a high pinion 30. The stronger, of course, is a high pinion 44. But the low pinion is no slouch. A Waggy 44 is an upgrade no matter how you look at it. The whole housing from hub to hub is bigger and beefier. The ring and pinion are bigger and stronger. Sure, the low pinion is driving the coast side of the gears but people put too much emphasis on that. It's a front axle. It's pulling a lot less of the vehicle weight than the rear. By a long shot. That being said, tire size and limitations are different from person to person. I had a JK with 35's and I went all over the place. The biggest reason for me to let it go was that the wheelbase wasn't enough for the hill climbs here in Colorado and Moab. And I had a little bit of limitation on the top end trails. So I'm building my MJ with 40"+ tires. It has the wheelbase and will have the tires so I can go big and not have to go home. But I also wheel with a bunch of people who stay on 35's and have tons of fun on 80-90% of the trails out here. Are 35's enough? That's a question only you can answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Swampy said: I know. Just axles swaps are a lot of money, even the cheapest option of a waggy 44 front is some coin. So I was asking if 35's are enough for people or if they felt tire size was a limiting factor. I would do the waggy swap but I feel like I'm losing something from going to a lp from a hp. to answer your question, i am happy i made the jump to 37s from 35s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Swampy said: I know. Just axles swaps are a lot of money, even the cheapest option of a waggy 44 front is some coin. So I was asking if 35's are enough for people or if they felt tire size was a limiting factor. I would do the waggy swap but I feel like I'm losing something from going to a lp from a hp. I ran the waggy 44 with a rodeo 44 rear. Awesome combo and I have no doubt that it could handle 37’s but would probably benefit from axle shaft upgrades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 I didnt think starting a new thread would have been helpful so lets continue the conversation here. Would a tj44 be up to the task of 37s? I know it would have to be built but with 30 spline inners and outers, HD ball joints, truss kit and chromo shafts it should be well built right? I know Jantz has a kit to put jk44 ring and pinion into a standard 44 housing, so that would definitely help gear strength. the truss and a beefy diff cover should help with deflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi Beast Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 yes that be suffice. axle truss or sleeve tubes for solid beef. honestly i like to think over kill. get it rolling, go wheeling and ungrade as you go and learn of your weak points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 have your 35s let you down anywhere yet? seems premature to toss them before even finding their limits. beware of "inchitus". it can be quite expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Swampy Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 17 hours ago, Pete M said: have your 35s let you down anywhere yet? seems premature to toss them before even finding their limits. beware of "inchitus". it can be quite expensive Yeah I think I might have been infected with something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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