oh crap !!!!

[cz777]

my dad's 2012 Overland Sport Utility with v-8 [ we love jeeps] ...very nice but i see a major recall in the works worst then the ford 4.6 plastic intake manifold spitting open!!! this is NO joke take a look under the engine .....see a plastic oil pan !!! yes you read right ,a plastic oil pan !!! this is getting nuts with plastic !!!

[AMCJeepMJ]

No point in crying wolf- none of us have a crystal ball to see the future if this will or will not be an item of potential recall. It may be a non-issue, your concern.

[mnkyboy]

Its probably stronger then the cast aluminum ones many car companies have used for years.

[Pete M]

maybe they actually listened to polymer experts this time rather than what they did with the intake manifold crossover... :dunno:

[dfreeman616]

lots of cars use plastic intakes, just the 4.6 is noted for the higher failure rate.

[Pete M]

it wasn't the "air" part of the intake that failed. Ford tried to integrate the coolant crossover (previously made of aluminum) into the rest of the plastic and did it in, um, poorly. :yes:

[TylerJY]

No way... Ford did something wrong? Shocker!

 

The only thing they've done right is circle the problem :)

[sinkrun]

:rotf:

No way... Ford did something wrong? Shocker!

 

The only thing they've done right is circle the problem :)

[Dadinator]

It's funny you guys say this. Out of all the cars I've owned over the last 33 years, (and there have been several) the Fords and Jeeps have been the best by brand for me as far as reliability. ChryCo's after that.

The GM's have been the worst. And it's not even close.

[Zenobian_84]

No way... Ford did something wrong? Shocker!

 

The only thing they've done right is circle the problem :)

:yes: Haven't had a good laugh yet today, thanks for that.

 

I've driven a number of Ford, Chevy, Dodge, and GM Trucks, and I can say that the F-150s were the absolute worst of the lot. Granted, the 150s were the 80s-mid 90s models and I haven't driven any of the NEWER F-150s, but still. Chevy's were in the same timeline, my old co-manager had a 2002 Dakota. Loved that truck. Was a real gas-hog though with that Magnum V6, but it had real get-up-and-go power.

 

I had more faith in my boss's little 2.2 GMC Sonoma than I did either of his 2 F-150s (1 I6 and 1 V8) he had hanging around for the company to use. Always breaking down, un-reliable, rode like a rickity push-cart, could barely get out of their own ways, and most of all, didn't have any of the torque left that his little 4 cylinder still had. The only credit I'll give either of them is that the interiors were amazingly plush and comfortable, and the layout on the dash was nice...

 

But then again, most of the gauges in either of them didn't work.. so it's a bit of a moot point.

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Getting back on topic though, I'm not surprised at the plastic use in todays cars. You have to remember though, that todays plastic is 10x better and more durable than the crap everyone used to get in the 70s and 80s. I'm also just going to assume that since Jeep is USING the stuff, it must be reliable. Either that, or Marchionne is more clever than I originally gave him credit for.

[dfreeman616]

it wasn't the "air" part of the intake that failed. Ford tried to integrate the coolant crossover (previously made of aluminum) into the rest of the plastic and did it in, um, poorly. :yes:

yes, and so do some chryco motors which have problems for other reasons. point being, it can be done fine. but that doesn't mean it is done well.

[Car RamRod]

I had more faith in my boss's little 2.2 GMC Sonoma than I did either of his 2 F-150s (1 I6 and 1 V8) he had hanging around for the company to use. Always breaking down, un-reliable, rode like a rickity push-cart, could barely get out of their own ways, and most of all, didn't have any of the torque left that his little 4 cylinder still had.

 

I can't say I've ever heard someone complain about the 300 i6's torque output. Those had some balls.

[Zenobian_84]

I had more faith in my boss's little 2.2 GMC Sonoma than I did either of his 2 F-150s (1 I6 and 1 V8) he had hanging around for the company to use. Always breaking down, un-reliable, rode like a rickity push-cart, could barely get out of their own ways, and most of all, didn't have any of the torque left that his little 4 cylinder still had.

 

I can't say I've ever heard someone complain about the 300 i6's torque output. Those had some balls.

I've driven a 300 that was in pretty good shape. I'll admit, it's got the power, but it still feels bogged down; to me at least. :dunno: Not bashing the 300, as I am still impressed with their overall design and lastability; just simply throwing my 2 cents in.