skidoo_j Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Okay so this may have been answered prior, but i've gone through 6 pages of searches and not found what I'm looking for. I see that some people are "upgrading" to an ax15 with external slave and paying 2-300 more for this style, but I have an AX15 with internal slave on the truck. Can an AX15 be converted from internal to an external slave? How difficult? Parts/ Prices? Bell Housing Modifications? I did find one thread about an internal to external conversion, but it was for an ax-4 and ax-5, I assume it is not all too similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Converting to an external on an AX-15 is pretty much identical to doing it on an AX-4/5. You need the external bellhousing, shift fork, throwout bearing, external style bearing retainer, slave cylinder, and the line. I believe you can get Master/line/slave combos already assembled and bled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidoo_j Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 Converting to an external on an AX-15 is pretty much identical to doing it on an AX-4/5. You need the external bellhousing, shift fork, throwout bearing, external style bearing retainer, slave cylinder, and the line. I believe you can get Master/line/slave combos already assembled and bled. Do you have a ball park guess as to price on the external bellhousing/availability? I'm assuming this is a JY part not something i can p/u at napa/autozone etc. What vehicles came with the external slave bell housing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 94+ XJ/YJ/TJ will have an external slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankTheDog Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 For what it costs in parts you'll be better off just picking up an ax15 with external slave and swapping it in. Check your local off road forums and keep your eye on craigslist for parts rigs for cheap. I'm buying complete running XJ's for less than $500 with working transmissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 :agree: I make it a point to buy the complete vehicle. Remove what i need, sell what I can that I don't need and sell what's left for scrap. Many a time I have bought the whole car for close to or less than what the JY wanted just for the part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 is there something broken in your current setup? I ask because the only thing wrong with the internal slave is that when it fails, you have to drop the trans to replace it. to convert to an external, you have to drop the trans and thus either way you'll be dropping the trans. as long as you use a Jeep factory slave (aftermarket ones have a poor track record), there's nothing much wrong with just keeping the internal design. it should last another 150k miles. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidoo_j Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 is there something broken in your current setup? I ask because the only thing wrong with the internal slave is that when it fails, you have to drop the trans to replace it. to convert to an external, you have to drop the trans and thus either way you'll be dropping the trans. as long as you use a Jeep factory slave (aftermarket ones have a poor track record), there's nothing much wrong with just keeping the internal design. it should last another 150k miles. :thumbsup: nothing wrong, clutch will need replaced in the next 20k. and had read external is better. I was looking to purchase the luk pro clutch kit and it comes with an internal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 The benefit to me is to not drop the trans in the future if you have a hydraulic problem. Very much worth in IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKB3 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I'm buying complete running XJ's for less than $500 with working transmissions. Care to reveal where you find all those running XJ's for less then $500? I have been looking for almost two months for a complete donor and most are about 2k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 They can be found. It's also a locale thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankTheDog Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I'm buying complete running XJ's for less than $500 with working transmissions. Care to reveal where you find all those running XJ's for less then $500? I have been looking for almost two months for a complete donor and most are about 2k. In CT and the rest of the northeast they dump salt on the roads which rots out vehicles like crazy. Also people have wrecks and they don't always bring them to the wreckers, the rigs are out there but you'll rarely get all the parts you need from one rig. Also, I said running condition, not nice condition. If you want a complete XJ that'll have all the parts you need I expect that you'll spend over $1500 easy. I buy them mostly for clean drivetrains and I don't worry about body panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1987Comanche Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I've been collecting parts for my external slave conversion, slated for when the engine comes out. What am I missing>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64 Cheyenne Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I've been collecting parts for my external slave conversion, slated for when the engine comes out. What am I missing>? I don't see the spring clips on each end of the throw out fork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1987Comanche Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 There are spring clips on both sides? The donor had one on the ball stud side but not one for the slave cyl side. What's the P/N for the spring clip? Also how do you set the ball stud height to make sure it is correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjeepinjoe Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 There are spring clips on both sides? The donor had one on the ball stud side but not one for the slave cyl side. What's the P/N for the spring clip? Also how do you set the ball stud height to make sure it is correct? 04338855 that is the spring clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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