Zenobian_84 Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 Am currently running the OEM stock mirrors (old picture) And I was thinking about going this route eventually, because for whatever reason, I like the look of these type of mirrors better than my current ones. I won't get these exact mirrors, but I'll probably end up shelling out bucks for the OEM chrome Jeep ones w/ all the mounting bracketry etc. Now, aside from making the truck look like it has "wings", and being made fun of for having them; can anyone tell me if there are any serious cons to these mirrors? Aside from the obvious "I will have to drill holes in the door, water can leak inside from the mounting holes, they're fugly, etc etc" what are your opinions on them?
Pete M Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 the trucks with factory mirrors like that came with braces inside the door.
Harley Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 if you were closer I would swap ya doors. Mine had those originally and now I have the ugly threaded holes on the doors but all the mounting brackets are built in just as Pete said.
Zenobian_84 Posted April 14, 2012 Author Posted April 14, 2012 if you were closer I would swap ya doors. Mine had those originally and now I have the ugly threaded holes on the doors but all the mounting brackets are built in just as Pete said. So then mounting that style of mirror would be a no go? Since the brackets aren't inside my door?
Pete M Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 you can certainly instal them. I'm just saying that there might be a reason why the factory re-enforced them. or it might not matter. :dunno: hopefully someone out there has done what you're contemplating and can chime in.
fiatslug87 Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 There is only one bracket per side listed in the '90 parts manual and they appear to be rivited in place.
neohic Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I did just that on an old truck but mine but were cheap-o mirrors from a clearance cart at an auto parts store. I didn't add any additional support inside the doors and I hated them. At speed, the mirrors would vibrate back and forth on the door skin making a hellacious noise that would come and go. On one hand, it wasn't so bad because very rarely were the doors even on in the summer. On the other, the mounts for the original mirrors were in terrible shape that they would randomly fall off around corners and over bumps.
Harley Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 if you were closer I would swap ya doors. Mine had those originally and now I have the ugly threaded holes on the doors but all the mounting brackets are built in just as Pete said. So then mounting that style of mirror would be a no go? Since the brackets aren't inside my door? You could but I personally wouldnt. I would imagine they would vibrate so much ya wouldnt be able to see anything in them anyway. On the other hand, if your handy with a welder ya could always fabricate your own braces. Lot of work for just mirrors though IMO.
90 mj eliminator Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I have a set of new old stock factory mirrors,door braces,gaskets,bolts. email mpdwyer1@hotmail.com if interested
Eagle Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 There is only one bracket per side listed in the '90 parts manual and they appear to be rivited in place. Well, yes there is "only" one bracket per door ... but look at it. The one bracket runs the full height of the door and has reinforced mounting plates welded onto it. It's a lot more than just putting a small piece of angle inside the door skin at each mirror mount. The purpose, obviously, is to keep the mirrors rigidly in place. If you mount them just to the door skin, they'll move all over the place as the skin flexes.
Dirteatr717 Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 The newer 97+ mirrors are bolt on, I put some on my truck. Check page 12-13 in my build thread
Zenobian_84 Posted April 15, 2012 Author Posted April 15, 2012 There is only one bracket per side listed in the '90 parts manual and they appear to be rivited in place. Well, yes there is "only" one bracket per door ... but look at it. The one bracket runs the full height of the door and has reinforced mounting plates welded onto it. It's a lot more than just putting a small piece of angle inside the door skin at each mirror mount. The purpose, obviously, is to keep the mirrors rigidly in place. If you mount them just to the door skin, they'll move all over the place as the skin flexes. Interesting. Probably going to second guess doing this then. Still, it's always nice to learn something new.
ComancheChic Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 :idea: If you want to sell the old black mirrors that mount at corner of window, I'm looking for a pair & would buy 'em. I'm missing the passenger side & it drives me crazy when I :idea: gotta back up w/ a big load in the MJ!
87MJTIM Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 There is only one bracket per side listed in the '90 parts manual and they appear to be rivited in place. Where can I find a company that sells the door skins with the attached brackets?
Harley Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 The skin has nothing to do with the mirror brackets. The brackets are part of the internal door structure.
87MJTIM Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 The skin has nothing to do with the mirror brackets. The brackets are part of the internal door structure. OK. Where can I purchase the brackets? My doors are rusting at the inside bottom, where the skin folds over. Would old bracket come out and put into a replacement door? Tim
Harley Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 hmm, not so sure you can buy just the brackets. From that exploded diagram it appears that they may just bolt in and are removable. so maybe ya can get lucky and find a metric ton in a jy. I've never looked at mine close enough though. I'm sure somebody will chime in. While we're on the topic, I will have a pair of rust free doors with those factory mirror mounts that I will be getting rid of in the near future when I swap my doors out for full power. If anybody is interested and really wants that style mirrors, let me know.
Harley Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Just noticed this but 90 mj eliminator said he has all the hardware needed. Send him a note and maybe he'll set ya up with what ya need.
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