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What do you all like? My Crapsman "4 ton professional" took a dump so I'm looking around for a replacement. The Milwaukee Hydraulics model 40 is really tempting, but I'm also looking at the Hein Werner 3-ton or AC Hydraulics DK20. Thoughts/comments/suggestions? Don't bother suggesting anything from China. I don't care that your bro-in-law's friend bought a $50 jack from Harbor Freight 20 years ago and uses it every day and hasn't had a problem. "Quality doesn't cost, it pays". When it comes to motorcycle tires and jacks, price be damned, my life is worth a lot more.

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I have a kobalt floor jack from lowes and it's lasted great for $120 over this past year. It also came with two jack stands and is a one pump to the frame type of jack. The only real problem with it that I've found is it's been out side under my jeep for the past 5 months or so and the wheels are just about locked up. I'm sure that has to do With rain and sand around here but it's still kinda sad. Now that I think about it I think it's still under warrantie :idea:

 

Brandon

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No love for harbor freight?

 

I bought their 3 ton. Works great and has been for the last year. And it was cheap enough to scrap and get a new one if something happens....my Crapsman floor jack quit working one day. My other small jack is a no name that's at least 15 years old; works mint.

 

I like spending big money on parts, not tools! My cheap harbor freight jack, engine picker, 6 ton jack stands, Pittsburg hand tools have treated me great!!!!

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Nothing against HF, they carry some decent (ball joint service tool, 3/4" socket set) or even genuinely good stuff (6-ton jackstands, hi-flow air tool connectors, brand-name stuff like USA-made Goodyear air hoses). But I'm not looking for a disposable jack, I've probably gone through half a dozen and if I'd just bought quality to start with I would have ended up saving money. If I needed something in a pinch I wouldn't hesitate to get the cheapest one they make in order to get through the job but I am buying to last here. NONE of the generic china-made jacks you can walk into a big store and buy are repairable or rebuildable. Seems like you have to special order anything good these days, ever the local hydraulic shops near me didn't have anything decent that they don't have to order for you. Sad to say but if I get a premium jack it will likely outlast my MJ.

 

Crap tools are just acquaintances, here one day and gone the next, but good tools become old trustworthy friends...

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If you want something not made in China, I'm afraid your only option sir is you must first buy a Chinese made pick axe, better yet if you live in Colorado and you're lucky enough to stumble across one of the last American made pick axes left abandoned in some silver mine up in the San Juans from back around the 1880s, then you're golden. If not, you could also search one out I guess...I suggest starting somewhere around Leadville, CO and working your way in larger concentric circles until you find one, keep expanding said circles until you reach Deadwood, SD. If you don't find an original American made pick axe by then, well sir, you are screwed. If you do, then next you must locate the last surviving American made steam engine rail line stretching from the mine of discovery to the Monongahela Valley. We wouldn't want that purely American made product tainted by some form of travel involving an only 85% American made automobile now would we? The Monongahela Valley is by the way, way the hell back East if ya'll don't know. Its a good place to gather the natural God given materials to make steel, etc, or whatever the hell. Once you get there, find a good mountain side and start hacking away until you hit some iron ore. Once the iron ore is located. Start a big freaking fire...and I mean really freakin big!!! You're going to have to melt that dang ore into some,,,,,oh wait. First make a mold of every part required to assemble a hydraulic jack, jack stands, American made Chinese style throwing stars, nun-chucks, Cowboy spurs or whatever the heck you want to be purely American. Once the molds are done....start that dang fire and melt the ore. Wait a minute, stop!.....first make a mold of the container you are going to use to contain that melted ore, then melt the ore and pour it in the container...now I think we're on track again...where were we....okay, melt the ore, pour it in the container, then pour the melted ore into the molds. Once cool to the touch, assemble your new 100% American made item and proudly display to the wife or girlfriend. She will be more than impressed with your creation and will most likely succumb to your "manimalness" and well you know,,,, earn you some "alone time" with her. Then use item to make wanted but not needed improvements to your Jeep. The money you save by making Jeep items yourself and not going aftermarket will most likely award you even more "alone time" with the female species, most of which are easily impressed by such ingenuity. Last step, go drive your Jeep without female presence to feel your true reward, point the Jeep to the direction of the sunset and drive that way happy.

 

 

Disclaimer: this post is not meant to slight anyone, I posted it as a technical resource for anyone wishing to create American made items. I've done it and can attest to this method's effect on the female of the species, so its possible, just don't ask me to give up my trade secrets or where to find the dang pick axes.

 

very respectfully,

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  • 2 weeks later...

Think I got the last couple American made pick axes left, as well as a couple regular picks, axes, shovels cross cut saws, coal scuttles and a ore cart the last time I made the abandoned mine tour around here. :D

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Unpacked today after work, please enjoy the pics.

 

 

"Where you goin? NO where!"

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Built to last I hope.

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Some grease in the handle assembly.

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The saddle is massive.

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As soon as I opened the box these two bugs landed on it and started making out. Who knew made in USA jacks had that effect? :dunno:

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The guts.

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Casters seem nice. Not sure if that's a geaseable spot, will have to check the manual. The front wheels are for sure though (see the saddle pic).

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The handle. Already some grease inside.

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Test lift!

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Drum roll please. Here we go, maiden voyage!

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Look ma, no hands!

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First of many battle scars.

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Quality vs Craftsman wreckage. The silver jack in the middle is rated at 3 tons and the others at 4. I'll trust the Milwaukee to actually lift 4.

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First impressions? It's quality you can see and feel throughout. Despite weighting more than the old 4-ton, it feels like less weight. Why? The handle is so solid and sturdy it just moves the jack without flexing, and the T-handle aids so much with maneuverability I never would have believed it without trying it. The wheels and casters are just better; smoother and stronger. Jacking up was a piece of cake, and letting it out was smooth as butter. There was no "jumping" or "grittiness" that I was used to from every jack I've ever used before, just silky smooth release.

 

The entry price was steep, but now that I've had a chance to see and use it, I would buy it again if I had to. And really, I wish I had bought it long ago. It's really that nice.

 

Note to others deciding between the Model 20 (or comparable) vs the Model 40. I ended up choosing the 40 for the main reason that I felt I could do more with it. The 20 would be sufficient for my needs today for sure, but I'm sure I'll end up with a big heavy truck for towing horses and such in the future. So, the 40 will have more potential future applications. The main drawback to the 40 is the size, but then again the 20 is not really a low-profile jack, so neither fits that category. What I figured I would give up on the high end with the 20, I would not regain with the low end. So, if I need two good jacks, I'd end up with the 20 and a low-profile or the 40 and a low-profile, so I figure I'm better covered all-around with the 40 for now and if I need a low-profile later on in life so be it, I won't regret having the 40. Plus, I just wanted it. So there.

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WOW I did not even know there was such a nice jack anymore! can't afford one but it has me thinking my dad still has two a floor jack and a large bumper jack the one with two arms. They were his dads in his garage in the 50`s the floor looks like the Milwaukee maybe they can be rebuilt. Now I have another new project to mess with.

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