feerocknok Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I'm trying to decide on tires, and was hoping to get some first hand info on a few different buddies. The stats (this took a long time to type up, and I'll probably be looking for used tires, but the prices will still be reflected then): ......................................................Actual Height...Summit Racing...4 Wheel Parts....Size................Complaints Pro Comp Xterrain.........................32.4..................170.50.............170.99...............33x12.50R15...small Pro Comp Mud Terrain...................32.5..........................................158.99...............33x12.50R15...small Super Swamper Radial/TSL...........32.7..................163.95.............164.99...............33x12.50R15 Pro Comp Xtreme Mud Terrain.......32.8...................................................................33x12.50R15...can't find BFGoodrich Mud Terrain T/A KM.....32.8..................175.95.............173.99...............33x12.50R15 Goodyear Wrangler MT/R...............32.8.................198.95.............208.99...............33x12.50R15...expensive TrXus Mud Terrain..........................33....................147.95.............149.99...............33x12.50R15 Mickey Thompson Baja Claw..........33....................181.95.............171.99...............33x12.50R15 Toyo Open Country Mud Terrain....33.1.........................................235.99...............33x13.50R15...wide, expensive I'd like to hear from anyone that has used any of these tires, what conditions they've used them in, and how they've done. If you have any other suggestions, holler em out! I personally wheel in soft dirt, light mud, lava rocks, and at speed, but want a tire I can trust in any condition. I also put alot of road time in, but am not overly concerned with wear, as much as pulling and heavily excessive noise. Also, snow fall is kind of big where I live, and the ice can get bad in Jan/Feb. My ears are open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I can comment on 2 diffferent sets. The pro comp tires while aggressive looking don't do well in mud :eek: unless you have lots of wheel speed. Also they are loud for what they are, and don't wear very evenly. You really have to experiment with tire pressure, to get a good foot print. BFG.... by far these are the best wearing tires out there if properly balanced and rotated. My only gripe is their sidewalls tear like toilet paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldtooth Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 i did quite a bit of back road and off road driving in southeast, eastern and notheastern oregon in my zj and did most of it on goodyear mt/r's. drove from cali border by lakeview up to walla walla, wa over the course of 4 years, almost all gravel/trail. also had them in the northwestern mud where they were decent. good on the street and i trusted them in the sharp rocks in the east, too bad they are so expensive. probably will go with bfg at's on the mj cause they are inexpensive. nathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88MJay Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I agree with pingpong on the BFG's. Good friend ran the X-terrains. They wore out quickly and are useless on the trail after half tread. MTR's get my vote out of that list. Really tough sidewalls, great on road (just rotate them every 2000 miles) and do great on the trail, especially rocks. They aren't the best in deep mud but are comparable to every other tire on your list except the Swampers. The Swampers are by far the best mud tire but not a good street tire at all. my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 wheeling in the midwest I've seen mostly loose dirt and mud. My observations: I wheeled with a YJ and procomp mud terrains, every hill was a full throttle attack to get the tires to clean. They sucked. Lot's of people use the BFG muds here, good performance, great street manners, but sidewall issues like was mentioned. I've got 34x9.5 TSL's on the MJ right now. Let's just say that I'm looking for some street tires, they're loud, take 10 miles before they're round and aren't wearing that great. They are exceptional offroad though, I walked through some really nasty mud at big rock without even needing to spin tires. Ice and snow are scary though. Truxus MT would be my choice for a dual purpose tire, a few people in the MWC run those and they seem to do well in all situations, decent in mud, good in rocks, and they street well. Balancing issues are the major complaint, but I think that's with the larger variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I forgot to mention the baja claws, this was another tire I saw in action at the mud in big rock, they plug up with mud and loose traction unless you spin the hell out of them. Maybe I'm just spoiled in the muck with TSLs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 wheeling in the midwest I've seen mostly loose dirt and mud.Truxus MT would be my choice for a dual purpose tire, a few people in the MWC run those and they seem to do well in all situations, decent in mud, good in rocks, and they street well. Balancing issues are the major complaint, but I think that's with the larger variants. i would agree with that because i have heard they do great on ice and snow. i'm getting a set of TSL's this spring but i also have a set of BFG A/T's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I have seen a few wranglers running the pizza cutter TSl's (34x9.5) on stock steelies, and they seem to do really good if you like a narrow tire. Of course the 2 ppl I know who run them trailer their rig to the trail, and don't run them on the street. Screw just spend the coin and buy some IROKS :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comancheap Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Back away from Josh's Xterrains! Actually he doesn't want to sell them now I guess, but those probably woulda been great for you. Personally, I run the BFG MTs on my Nissan and love them. They're quiet and have great traction everywhere I've tried them, except for a couple REALLY icy spots (of course that can be attributed to the locker also). I bought them at like 40% (or I'm sure you saw them, what would you rate them at?), put 4k or so on them so far, and I can't see any wear. I love them! I think if I lived down there in Bend and drove over lava rack etc, I'd go for the MT/Rs though. Great sidewall, good traction, and air them down and they'll grip anything. Seems like it anyway. A buddy of mine is living down there going to COCC and put MT/Rs in the 33x12.5 size on his Toyota, hasn't had a problem yet. As opposed to Josh's Xterrains, several problems with those. Overall, I'd say get what you can. A good price on tires can make up for it not being the "perfect" tire. For instance, Xterrains wouldn't be my "perfect" tire, but I definitely woulda bought those 33s from Josh if I could fir them. Just my .02 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I have seen a few wranglers running the pizza cutter TSl's (34x9.5) on stock steelies, and they seem to do really good if you like a narrow tire. Of course the 2 ppl I know who run them trailer their rig to the trail, and don't run them on the street. Screw just spend the coin and buy some IROKS :D that's what I'm running right now. They look nice, perform freaking awesome off road, but yes, they're bias ply TSLs, and that's about all you need to know for how well they drive on pavement. Here's my junk with those tires on rockkrawlers w/3.75" BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 what about the kuhmo mud terrain... anyone ran that tire? it got pretty good ratings/price on tirerack.com... anyone know about it personally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Trent, apparently I'd be 4th on the list for Josh's 33s, and he ripped open 2 sidewalls on the 31s I have now. A recap... Complaints so far: ProComp Xterrain -sidewall strength, mud, use after 1/2 tread, loud, wear ProComp Mud Terrain - cleaning, and traction on mud and dirt TSL - road, ice/snow BFG MT - sidewall, ice MT/R - price TrXus - balancing Baja Claw - mud, rocks Praise so far: ProComp Xterrain - ProComp Mud Terrain - TSL - mud, 'offroad' BFG MT - road, wear, 'traction' MT/R - gravel, trail, sharp rocks TrXus - mud, rocks, street, ice, snow Baja Claw - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 i drive my xj a lot on the road, tire wear is a big factor for me. i run 33x10.5 BFG all terrains, and i can't complain on how they handle in the street on snow. and when i off road i air them down and they seem to do ok, they need some speed to clean out, but for the all around driver they are a good tire if you spend a lot of time on pavement. my bro has the goodyear m/t and he loves them, they are quiet and provide a ton of traction. my next tire will be the trxus m/t, the goodyear m/t, or the bfg m/t because they are all great tires for on and off road performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Sand, mud, snow, highway... my trXus have taken everything I've thrown at them (I've never wheeled in sharp rocks though). They are a heavy tire and some of mine have taken a bunch of weight to balance (one needed only a single small weight). No biggie though as they've maintained that balance just fine. The biggest concern is that you rotate them every 3-5k miles. They are a soft tire compound and they will show you any problems with your alignment. BFG muds and MTRs also get a nod from me (though I haven't run them on my trucks). Just don't think of the MTRs as a mud tire, they are an all-terrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Where'd you get the chart info? I really doubt 33" BFGs measure 32.8". My 35s measure like 33" when they're aired up to about 30LBS. I'll admit they are at about 40%. I put them beside the 37" MTRs and just started laughing at how small the BFGs are. Oh, I'm not into the BFGs just because of the sidewalls. I've got a couple plugs. A friend ripped 5 in 2 days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 Where'd you get the chart info? Most of the height numbers came from Summit Racing, and for the price, I listed for Summit and 4 Wheel Parts. The BFG number matches from both Summit and BFG. The 35 apparently measures 34.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZXJ Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Any interest in PitBull's ?? Dave 480-288-4213 Http://deserfab.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Any interest in PitBull's ?? Dave 480-288-4213 Http://deserfab.com/ pitbulls look cool, how well do they wear on road would be my concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 I didn't consider Pitbulls because I was thinking they were all bias-ply. My buddy just dumped a grand into a set of 39s, and adores them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandysMJ Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I've ran 33" claws, and run now 37" claws. I have nothing bad to say about them. I do mostly mud and i have no problems with them clogging up. They clear out very easily. I've run them on rocks, slick rocks, loose hills. They have never let me down. They are smooth and quite on the road. They aren't balanced and they don't shake at all. My dad runs 33" Trxus mt's. They are a very good tire. Do well in all situations. They are very quite on the highway. I think they are the best bang for the buck tire. Another tire i ran is the Firestone Destination MT's. I loved those tires to death. Excellent in anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I personally looked into the pitbull tires, and I was tempted to get them except they are WIDE, and look like ballons on rigs.... it might just be my perception though. Also they don't come in the size I wanted :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I personally looked into the pitbull tires, and I was tempted to get them except they are WIDE, and look like ballons on rigs.... it might just be my perception though. Also they don't come in the size I wanted :cry: You gotta run locks and a wide rim for them to look alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Where'd you get the chart info? Most of the height numbers came from Summit Racing, and for the price, I listed for Summit and 4 Wheel Parts. The BFG number matches from both Summit and BFG. The 35 apparently measures 34.8. Betcha that's what BFG says they are. I should throw the tape on the 100% one and see what it is. But I doubt it's 34.8". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowey Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 MT/R are almost as bad as ThornTurd's in thick heavy gooey mud. While its a passable rock tire, it really is more of a super aggressive AT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 my bfg 33'' a/t's are 31 3/4'' tall aired and on the ground mounted on my xj 35'' goodyear mtr are 33 3/4 aired and mounted on my brothers xj (i just walked outside and measured) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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