86ComancheXNate Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I'm looking to lift my mj however I do not have much $$. Who does nowadays? Well I'm looking for just enough lift to clear 31"s and to make a smoother ride. I have heard people say zj front coils would fit but what would I do for the rear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 31" tires will fit a stock MJ, but ZJ V8 front coils, and some Chevy drop shackles in the back will give you what youre looking for. Make sure to do an alignment after you do the lift, as it will screw up the toe in your steering, and maybe make your steering wheel off center. And for whoever does the alignment, make sure they adjust your caster too. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkbruin Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 31" tires will fit a stock MJ, but ZJ V8 front coils, and some Chevy drop shackles in the back will give you what youre looking for. Make sure to do an alignment after you do the lift, as it will screw up the toe in your steering, and maybe make your steering wheel off center. And for whoever does the alignment, make sure they adjust your caster too. Good luck! Bingo. V8 ZJ coils up front, chevy (88-97 c/k 1500)2" drop shackles in the rear. OR: ZJ coils plus Camaro isolater, 3" AAL in back. OR 3" coils up front, 3" AAL in back OR 3" coils up front, 3" Hell Creek leaf pack in back. For a minimal lift and 31's, I would go with the ZJ coils and chevy shackles. Coils are usually free, and lift shackles are $40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkenvol Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Please expand on "Camaro isolater". Is there a thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkbruin Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 The spring isolater (basically a 'puck') on the Camaro's will fit the XJ/MJ and give anywhere from 3/4 to 1.5", depending on who you ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Chief Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 How much actual lift will you get with the zj coils and chevy shackles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkbruin Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 1-1.5" You can fit 31's stock with rubbing, this alleviates the rubbing (but doesn't allow much uptravel for heavy offroad use). Example: MJ on 31's on factory suspension, front trimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 that's with aftermarket rims. stock rims will prevent rubbing on the fenders, but cause a small amount of rubbing on the control arms at full turn. this is fixed with either a washer behind the steering stop, or with WJ lower control arms (the ones with a clearance bend in them). 31s on a stock 4wd MJ with stock backspaced rims: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunferferth Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 How does an AAL work with MJ's are spring under? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkbruin Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 How does an AAL work with MJ's are spring under? It works the same as any other AAL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 AALs aren't the same as blocks. They arch the spring more, which lifts the truck up. SOA vehicles also gain the tiny amount from the leaf's thickness, but that's not a factor with SUA vehicles. The distance between the axle and main leaf remains the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunferferth Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 thanks...i just never have used them..always bought spring packs..i was just thinking about the thickness moving the axle toward the vehicle rather than arching the spring pack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 AALs on SUA vehicles doesn't move the axle closer to the vehicle. AALs on SOA vehicles go between the axle and main leaf, therefore it moves the axle. On SUA, the AAL goes under the main leaf and axle. Axle remains snug against the main, so it's not moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I too am looking to put a 3" lift in my 86 mj longbed. I'm looking at the rough countey 625 kit. I can get it for 250ish. Questions I have are will I need to do anything to the steering? I'm trying to lift it just enough without changing the geometry. What are the best wheels as far as size and offset/backspacing. I want to run 31" or 32" tires. This kit comes with springs all around. not the pucks for the front. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Rough Country is a lousy company. They shorted me on parts that were supposed to be included in the kit TWICE and refuse to make it right. I am hardly alone on this issue and you can find several posts (on most every jeep website) about them. Even their biggest fanboi's admit it takes several phone calls to get what is promised. In addition, the ride of their kits sucks. I'll be dumping mine as soon as $$ premit. I listened to a fanboi and did not due enough of my own research and I really regret it. For a $50 lift to easily clear 31's, go to O'Reilly or where ever. Get the front coil spacers for about $7/ea and a rear drop shackle for a Chevy for about $30 and you are good to go. Both are in their little suspension area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkbruin Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I too am looking to put a 3" lift in my 86 mj longbed. I'm looking at the rough countey 625 kit. I can get it for 250ish. Questions I have are will I need to do anything to the steering? I'm trying to lift it just enough without changing the geometry. What are the best wheels as far as size and offset/backspacing. I want to run 31" or 32" tires. This kit comes with springs all around. not the pucks for the front. Thanks Stay away from Rusty's and Rough Country. I know people that went from RC to F150 coils and the ford coils rode better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I too am looking to put a 3" lift in my 86 mj longbed. I'm looking at the rough countey 625 kit. I can get it for 250ish. Questions I have are will I need to do anything to the steering? I'm trying to lift it just enough without changing the geometry. What are the best wheels as far as size and offset/backspacing. I want to run 31" or 32" tires. This kit comes with springs all around. not the pucks for the front. Thanks Best wheels are stock wheels 15x7 with original backspacing of around 5 1/4", and you can't lift it and not affect the steering, if you don't get an alignment, youll eat up your brand new tires in no time! AND maybe cause death wobble! GET AN ALIGNMENT TOO! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Toe alignments are easy to do yourself. http://www.4x4xplor.com/alignment.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 a 2" lift can be done with minimal fuss and minimal cost and you can fit 31s on stock rims. If costs are a concern, it's a good way to go. :thumbsup: Costs and headaches go up exponentially as lift height increases. Going 3"+ means brake lines, shocks, control arms, sway bar links, etc. all need to be reevaluated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.deady Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 http://www.jcwhitney.com/suspension-lif ... 169y1987j1 this is the one i got. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Rough Country is a lousy company. They shorted me on parts that were supposed to be included in the kit TWICE and refuse to make it right. I am hardly alone on this issue and you can find several posts (on most every jeep website) about them. Even their biggest fanboi's admit it takes several phone calls to get what is promised. In addition, the ride of their kits sucks. I'll be dumping mine as soon as $$ premit. I listened to a fanboi and did not due enough of my own research and I really regret it. For a $50 lift to easily clear 31's, go to O'Reilly or where ever. Get the front coil spacers for about $7/ea and a rear drop shackle for a Chevy for about $30 and you are good to go. Both are in their little suspension area. Tell me more about the rear shackles. What year chevy? I don't have an orileys in Mass. autozone or advanced ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86ComancheXNate Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 I found these and I think I might try them, but I'm not sure what else I'll need. http://www.4wheelparts.com/Lift-Kits-Su ... =RANRS6423 http://www.4wheelparts.com/Lift-Kits-Su ... RANRS60913 Skyjacker has similar kits but I'm not sure how the two brands compare. I'm thinking about keeping it 2wd for a while. Thats a project that I don't want to tackle right now. Is there anything else I'll need to get to make something like this work? I'm probably going to get new shocks as well. I'm just looking to make something work so I can sport these badass tires. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirteatr717 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 If your going to spend 170 on 2 inch coils they better ride like a caddy and make you coffee in the morning.... Get $30 pucks and shackles :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 If your going to spend 170 on 2 inch coils they better ride like a caddy and make you coffee in the morning.... Get $30 pucks and shackles :cheers: x2. I don't see ubolts in that aal kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86ComancheXNate Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 I don't think there are u-bolts in the aal kit. I would have to get them. So should I just look for some coils and leafs in a jy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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