comanche13 Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 my moms looking for a new vehicle and I have been trying to get her into a jeep right now we have a 1985 fj60 land cruiser but she wants something new and 4 door. what do you guys think of the 4 door JK are they built well what is there to avoid all them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 I'm morally objected to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirteatr717 Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 gas mileage sucks and they only look cool when u have things done to them and ive seen a 2 inch lift kit for them run about 600 :nuts: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ is dead Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 I love em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Wayy better than any toyota!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sam Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 SFA, 4 door, removable top. What a great combo, too bad the diesel is not sold here in the US. Also, check this out: http://jeepin.net/news/aev_brkts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Toy FJs are great vehicles with a long international rep for reliability, but in your neck of the woods the 85 60 series is prolly toast by now. :D If it's served you well, and they usually do, consider another newer FJ. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sam Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Toy FJs are great vehicles with a long international rep for reliability, but in your neck of the woods the 85 60 series is prolly toast by now. :D If it's served you well, and they usually do, consider another newer FJ. :cheers: Is being able to see out of the vehicle a concern at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Not a problem for most of the world. But may be in CO? :nuts: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sam Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Not a problem for most of the world. But may be in CO? :nuts: Every person that I have talked to about them all agrees that the visibility is lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sam Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Also, here are two google searches, you can see the difference in the results: http://www.google.com/search?client=saf ... 8&oe=UTF-8 http://www.google.com/search?client=saf ... 8&oe=UTF-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Have you ever spent any quality time in any FJ Sam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemsee Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Back to the original question. The only thing I dislike about the 4dr JK is the lack of power with the minivan engine. Fuel economy is gonna vary by driving conditions. If I keep the one I'm driving under 70, I can eke out 20 mpg. Push it over 70 and I lose 3 mpg or more. I can't imagine her FJ did any better than that. The longer wheel base of the 4dr is a vast improvement in ride quality and stability in bad weather over the 2dr. Best thing is to have her go and drive one. If she gets one, have her spring for the factory remote start. But try and avoid the MyGig radio. $2000 POS. There is also going to be a redesign of the interior for 2011. If she waits a couple of months she can see if she likes the new or old, and probably get a better deal on the 2010 version if she doesn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pioneer Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 :agree: with the lack of power. However, i feel that these are the only true jeeps that are still being built. My buddies mom has a black 4 door rubicon and its nasty . 44 front and rear selectable lockers and BFG mud terrains. I like them :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEAD_NOT_FOLLOW Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 ive seen a 2 inch lift kit for them run about 600 :nuts: Maybe a OME Coil Lift (OME lifts are expensive anyways); but you can lift a JK 2" for less than $130 with high quality parts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glundblad Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 JK's really got a bad rap but personally, I like how it sits, rides and drives. I bought a 2 door Rubicon last year. I live on a rough dirt road that suspension on that thing eats it up. It does surprisingly well on plowed frozen corn fields if your mom does that frequently on the way to the grocery. It is a wind brick though. My daily driver is a chevy tahoe and I doubt the Rubicon gets any better gas mileage. Rubicon gets you a D44 f&r, locker, electronic sway bar disconnect, better transfer case and 4.10. Rubicon also has some funky springs and shocks that never cease to amaze me. I took it to the badlands last summer and it did very well. The engine gets a bad rap (perhaps deserved and possibly not). It is a very proven engine but it is not a muscle car. I don't think I would want a JK with any gear ratio other than 4.10. I like the 4.0 much better. But heck, I like my comanche better. But I can certainly tell the JK has 20+ years of engineering ahead of the comanche. Personally, I don't care for the appearance of the 4 door unless it is a rubicon. Rubicons have slightly oversized tires and the 4 door looks out of proportion to me with smaller tires. And of course, for the price, you get a lot more stuff. If you need ammo to convince her, tell her they depreciate slower than anything on the road. Have her take a look at kelley blue book for a 3 year old Grand Cherokee Limited. Then a 4 door Rubicon of the same year. One depreciates like a brick. The other only feels like one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Well said, but you forgot to mention the best part... Its not a toyota! :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Warrior Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 In all honesty I think the 4door JKs are hideous. I like the 2 doors. But, that is about all I can complain about. Sure their motors were designed after a minivan block, but let's face it the 4.0 was inspired by the germlin. The JK still has the heart of a Jeep and some small quirks that all jeepers expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Don't like the JK but want a 4 door wrangler? Just buy two TJs and cut and weld together! This is my friend Alan's 4 door TJ, it was featured on the powerblock... Custom 4 link front/rear, sterling 10.25 rear, dana 60 front, injected 350, etc. etc. (and no that is not Alan in the picture, that's brandon... he's not very smart) sorry :hijack: I thought it was slightly relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sam Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Have you ever spent any quality time in any FJ Sam? It was either an FJ or a cardboard box, its hard to say because the visibility out of either is about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemsee Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Have you ever spent any quality time in any FJ Sam? It was either an FJ or a cardboard box, its hard to say because the visibility out of either is about the same. :D :D . I agree with Sam. I didn't think anything could have worse visibility issues than some of the Chrysler products (PT, Pacifica) but the new FJ is really pretty bad with those giantic rear pillars. Almost like driving a cargo van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepdoggydogB Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 http://www.aev-conversions.com/vehicles/jk_builder.php Might like it better with the Hemi :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheYeti1775 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 The new FJ Cruisers do have visibility issues. Driven a friend's a few times and didn't really like it. The new JK 4drs Like and hate it. :D Likes SFA Optional Front and Rear D44's Optional Front and Rear Lockers and Sway bar disconnects Actually fairly roomy for a 6' 350lbs guy like myself Optional 4.10's Dislikes Those optionals are only available on the Rubicon models. If you get the tow package you get 3.73 gears, so order the no tow package and just add an after market one. Lack of a V8 option from factory. Overall though, they do make for nice rigs and I wouldn't turn down one given to me. If your mom wants a daily (and seeing your in Canada) with 4x4 I would say it is a solid choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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