Who would win?

[shelbyluvv]

If he is running 3" pipes on that NA motor he just killed any and all low end torque that the Honda had. Big pipes on a 4 popper are not always a good thing. I have 3" on my 4 banger car. But, it also has a turbo and a little shot of squeeze.

[dasbulliwagen]

tail gate down=more wind drag. just ask mythbusters.

Well, I'll be bamboozled!

 

IDK - this guy has a cone air filter, over sized fuel injection tubing, 3" exhaust pipes, new old stock parts, and over priced spark plugs...

 

Does the car run?

 

 

I hope youre just kidding about the "new old stock" parts. You do know that this means NITROUS OXIDE SYSTEM right?

[87Warrior]

I hope youre just kidding about the "new old stock" parts. You do know that this means NITROUS OXIDE SYSTEM right?

:yes:

Isn't NOS an energy drink too? How can we be sure what this guy actually has?

 

Typically if your car is on the bottle, you would provide more information than "NOS". That is like saying 'my Jeep has big tires'.

[freakjeep93]

lol honda= 90 maby 100-110 horspower to be nice and give him an advantage.

 

jeep = 4.0 165 -175 horse power auto so mabye 3.55 gears and rear drive .....

 

 

i think the jeep will desroy the honda

[mnkyboy]

I guess it depends on if he really has nitrous and how much he's running.

 

 

stock vs stock the honda doesnt have a chance,an EX coupe is around 2200-2300 lbs and i would guess a 4 door would be more. a stock D16 or 1.6L SOHC engine is around 107HP and the car should run a 17-17.5 sec 1/4mile

 

now nitrous or other forced induction changes everything, a D16 civic can get into the 10's with enough juice.

[shelbyluvv]

a D16 civic can get into the 10's with enough juice.

 

Maybe in the 1/8th.

 

There is no way a stock D16 bottom end will handle that much squeeze and reach the end of the 1320 in one piece. I have 22 psi of boost and a little shot (50) of juice. My car has all forged internals though. The fastest I have got it to in the 1/4 was 11.46 & 110.

[project88mj]

yes you would win

 

the trick is to use your torque aginst him.

 

as long as you don't spin your tires off at the start youll be fine. he sounds so wound up about it it looks like he will spin big time. just hook and go.

i bet finishes fast in other areas of his life too (in bed i bet) :rotf:

[1990 Pioneer 4x4]

try it and let us know...

[DJM/78]

:agree:

 

It's all about power = weight ratio ( to the wheel ) forget horsepower and you have to add in wheel weight and resistance.

 

I doubt he has the cheese for a direct-port injected nos kit , besides the stock honda motor wouldn't take it very long anyway..

 

Just get an avenger 4x4 supercharger and blow the bondo off his door skins . More bolt on power than that motor even produces

 

stock !!!!! :chillin:

[mnkyboy]

a D16 civic can get into the 10's with enough juice.

 

Maybe in the 1/8th.

 

There is no way a stock D16 bottom end will handle that much squeeze and reach the end of the 1320 in one piece. I have 22 psi of boost and a little shot (50) of juice. My car has all forged internals though. The fastest I have got it to in the 1/4 was 11.46 & 110.

 

 

 

I don't see why its not possable,ive seen a stock internal EX coupe run mid 11's with full interior. now the engine didnt live very long like that but it did it.

 

so why couldnt you take an early hatch or CRX strip it down, turbo the crap out of it and get a pass in the 10s

 

the fastest D16 runs mid 9's so the engine is capable of it,as long as it held together 10's are possable.

[Joop]

I hate to say this, but I guess the honda would win! You're driving a pickup built to haul stuff around, he's got a streetcar. If he knows what he's doing, well.. I hope you don't bet money on this race! And if you race him, remember that it is 375903 times better to loose with style, than to win driving some jap-crap that looks more like a bondo-commercial than a real car :nuts:

 

 

 

But idk, I would beat both of you with my VOLVO!! :yes: :clapping:

[Eagle]

:rotf:

 

 

my thoughts exactly, a turboback catback? sounds fancy, wish I had one.

Ummm ... guys, a catback is an exhaust system from the catalytic coverter back. And a "turbo" exhaust is just a baffled muffler with fewer baffles than most OEM mufflers.

 

But a 3" exhaust on a ricer 4-banger is pretty lame. The thing can't make any torque with that setup.

[89eliminator]

:rotf:

 

 

my thoughts exactly, a turboback catback? sounds fancy, wish I had one.

Ummm ... guys, a catback is an exhaust system from the catalytic coverter back. And a "turbo" exhaust is just a baffled muffler with fewer baffles than most OEM mufflers.

 

 

thats not what i'd like to think.

[Eagle]

... the car should run a 17-17.5 sec 1/4mile

But the original post specified 1/8 mile.

 

For an eighth, I'll still take the Honda. Sorry. I love my XJs and MJs, but I have owned a couple of Civics and an Accord. For the eighth, the Honda has it all over the MJ. Front wheel drive with the weight over the drive wheels, vs. rear wheel drive with no weight to help you hook up. Not gonna happen, GI.

[Eagle]

thats not what i'd like to think.

So what do you think a turbo muffler is?

 

Jump to page 7:

http://www.thrushexhaust.com/pdf/thrush.pdf

[89eliminator]

thats not what i'd like to think.

So what do you think a turbo muffler is?

 

something you bolt to the intake of the turbo to lessen the intake noise. :shake:

[Eagle]

thats not what i'd like to think.

So what do you think a turbo muffler is?

 

something you bolt to the intake of the turbo to lessen the intake noise. :shake:

Wrong.

 

Next victim?

[mnkyboy]

... the car should run a 17-17.5 sec 1/4mile

But the original post specified 1/8 mile.

 

For an eighth, I'll still take the Honda. Sorry. I love my XJs and MJs, but I have owned a couple of Civics and an Accord. For the eighth, the Honda has it all over the MJ. Front wheel drive with the weight over the drive wheels, vs. rear wheel drive with no weight to help you hook up. Not gonna happen, GI.

 

 

on paper the MJ is about .5 sec faster then the civic 1/8th mile.

 

my brother had a 93 XJ 2wd 4.0L/aw4 and was constently street racing the neighborhood kids,it had no trouble against the average riced out civic

[89eliminator]

thats not what i'd like to think.

So what do you think a turbo muffler is?

 

something you bolt to the intake of the turbo to lessen the intake noise. :shake:

Wrong.

 

Next victim?

 

agree to disagree

[Automan2164]

Do I have to separate you two?

 

Rob L. :fool: :fool:

[shelbyluvv]

But the original post specified 1/8 mile.

 

For an eighth, I'll still take the Honda. Sorry. I love my XJs and MJs, but I have owned a couple of Civics and an Accord. For the eighth, the Honda has it all over the MJ. Front wheel drive with the weight over the drive wheels, vs. rear wheel drive with no weight to help you hook up. Not gonna happen, GI.

 

Do not forget about weight transfer off the line. He is going to dump the clutch on the Honda and remove all the weight from the front tires and plant it on the rear ones. Making the front end light. Sending the tires up in smoke.

[shelbyluvv]

a D16 civic can get into the 10's with enough juice.

 

Maybe in the 1/8th.

 

There is no way a stock D16 bottom end will handle that much squeeze and reach the end of the 1320 in one piece. I have 22 psi of boost and a little shot (50) of juice. My car has all forged internals though. The fastest I have got it to in the 1/4 was 11.46 & 110.

 

 

 

I don't see why its not possable,ive seen a stock internal EX coupe run mid 11's with full interior. now the engine didnt live very long like that but it did it.

 

so why couldnt you take an early hatch or CRX strip it down, turbo the crap out of it and get a pass in the 10s

 

the fastest D16 runs mid 9's so the engine is capable of it,as long as it held together 10's are possable.

 

 

Do you know how much more power it takes to go from mid 11's (where I am) to the 10's? This is not a easy task. For any engine. That Honduh will need about 450-500 ponies to pull that off. The car would need to weigh about 1000 LBs.

 

I am not saying it is not possible. I am saying that the internals will not survive off juice alone. I want to see someone put a 400 shot on a stock D16.

 

KABOOOOOM!!!!!

[DJM/78]

:agree:

 

My sport bikes barely run 9 sec 1/4 s with 160 @ at the wheel and weigh less than 380 lb dry.

 

and their Honda's too .

 

Best Honda makes . :smart:

[mnkyboy]

If you could get the car to 2000 lbs which you should be able to do with a CRX or hatch you should only need 345-350 HP to touch the 10's.

 

if you could keep everything tuned just right the engine should hold,forged internals are only insurance for when things go wrong.

 

maybe saying 10s was going a bit far,although it could happen under the right conditions. 11s-12s would be more realistic,but still only short term on the stock engine.

[mnkyboy]

But the original post specified 1/8 mile.

 

For an eighth, I'll still take the Honda. Sorry. I love my XJs and MJs, but I have owned a couple of Civics and an Accord. For the eighth, the Honda has it all over the MJ. Front wheel drive with the weight over the drive wheels, vs. rear wheel drive with no weight to help you hook up. Not gonna happen, GI.

 

Do not forget about weight transfer off the line. He is going to dump the clutch on the Honda and remove all the weight from the front tires and plant it on the rear ones. Making the front end light. Sending the tires up in smoke.

 

this is correct,my EXP had no traction till i stiffend the rear suspension. rear would drop and front tires would spin like mad