BIGHEEP Posted June 27, 2006 Posted June 27, 2006 I have a chance at a MJ D44 w/ 3.07 gears (same as my truck currently) with good brakes and drums. What is it worth?
comancheman Posted June 27, 2006 Posted June 27, 2006 I'll tell you after you tell me what town its in :brows:
BIGHEEP Posted June 27, 2006 Author Posted June 27, 2006 :thwak: I already agreed to buy it. :chillin: I was just wondering the going rate. I did some searching around and it is a fair price.
Oizarod115 Posted June 27, 2006 Posted June 27, 2006 well since its literally a DIRECT swap in, id say priceless lol. my brother bought a XJ44 with only one brake drum for 300+shipping
Cabz Posted June 27, 2006 Posted June 27, 2006 I picked up my MJ d44 for $350.00 it has 3.55 gears and it had a busted trac lock. $250.00=$350.00 is generaly what I see em go for
BRC 88MJ Posted June 27, 2006 Posted June 27, 2006 FWIW, I got mine for $100 out of a junkyard (included the leafs, too) but the brakes were shot.
Cooter Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 They can be found for less, but they are worth about $300-$400
Bounty Hunter Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 Why pay that when you can get a Ford 8.8 with discs, 4.10, and limited slip for $100 to $300? Much stronger than a D44.
GirsMJ86 Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 Why pay that when you can get a Ford 8.8 with discs, 4.10, and limited slip for $100 to $300? Much stronger than a D44. know anywhere i can get one of those on the cheaper end of that scale? lol alex
Pete M Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 Pull-your-part junkyards generally have axles for $75-$150
Bounty Hunter Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 I paid $100 for my 4.10 8.8 complete, you just have to do the legwork at the local junkyards. You pick the axle out of a pile of axles, or pull your own, and you can get it for $100 to $150. You go to a salvage yard and they pull you one off a sheld, you'll pay $350+.
Cooter Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 Why pay that when you can get a Ford 8.8 with discs, 4.10, and limited slip for $100 to $300? Much stronger than a D44. Because the MJ D44 is bolt in. Much stronger is highly debatable....
Bounty Hunter Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 d44 is not a c-clip axle :) You're correct. But what does that have to do with anything? That argument is played out.
Bounty Hunter Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 Much stronger is highly debatable.... The axle shaft strength tested by Warn Ind: F8.8= 6,500 (lb. ft.) D44= 4,600-5,000 (lb. ft.) D35C= 4,000-4,300 (lb. ft.) ------------------------------- COT: Continuous output torque rating MOT: Maximum output torque rating (Numbers from January edition of Fourwheeler, page 60.) Dana 35 rear axle COT: 870 MOT: 3480 Dana 44 rear axle COT: 1100 MOT: 4460 Ford 8.8 28spline COT: 1250 MOT: 4600 Ford 8.8 31spline COT: 1360 MOT: 5100 Dana60 semifloat COT: 1500 MOT: 5500
Cooter Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 Still have to discuss the tubes in the axle housing. also- I have sold over 25 XJ/MJ D44s, and about 12 8.8s. Whenever I go to the JY I see about 10% of the 8.8s with broken axleshafts. I have yet to see a broken D44 shaft in the JY. Torque in a fixture isn't real world. (And I highly doubt the 28 spline would have a real world torque rating over a D44)
BIGHEEP Posted June 29, 2006 Author Posted June 29, 2006 well since its literally a DIRECT swap in, id say priceless lol. I think this is the best answer thus far. I am not a hardcore wheeler and I doubt I will ever brake the D44 (heck I am yet to brake my welded D35) Not to mention the D44 is a dirrect bolt in. no fabbing or adapters required.
Catatonic Comanche Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 Why pay that when you can get a Ford 8.8 with discs, 4.10, and limited slip for $100 to $300? Much stronger than a D44. That is an easy one...because its a FORD! No Ford parts will ever pollute my lawn ornament! Comanches & Beer! :cheers:
pingpong Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 I have seen a lot of parts breakage on the trail. As for what is stronger the 8.8 or the d44.. I don't know, but I know I wheel the piss out of my rig with an 8.8 and no failures. I also know of another guy with a d44 in his tj who broke the pinion with less then 10000 miles on his rig. The plus to swaping in a 8.8 is they are cheap, have disc brakes, and come with a lsd and 4.10 gears. The d44 you will have to more then likely swap gears (140 for gears plus time and labor.. did I mention the install kit), add disc brakes... figure a couple hundred for that.. and then add a LSd ... another few bucks. You tell me what is better
Pete M Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 Any axle can break. The ford 9" is touted to be mighty and all, but I have a loose yoke and a dead posi in mine from 33s and a day of tough dirt trails. Stupid axle. :mad:
feerocknok Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 Seems to me like one 1/2-ton axle's not gonna last much longer than another. If you're gonna bust a 44, do you think an 8.8 is gonna be unbreakable for ya? I think things like locker, gear, and brake selection are bigger deals, and just finding a nice conditioned axle. All this is not considering if you're planning on throwing bucks into things like chromoly shafts though.
BIGHEEP Posted June 30, 2006 Author Posted June 30, 2006 I have seen a lot of parts breakage on the trail. As for what is stronger the 8.8 or the d44.. I don't know, but I know I wheel the piss out of my rig with an 8.8 and no failures. I also know of another guy with a d44 in his tj who broke the pinion with less then 10000 miles on his rig. The plus to swaping in a 8.8 is they are cheap, have disc brakes, and come with a lsd and 4.10 gears. The d44 you will have to more then likely swap gears (140 for gears plus time and labor.. did I mention the install kit), add disc brakes... figure a couple hundred for that.. and then add a LSd ... another few bucks. You tell me what is better I have looked into doing an 8.8 and it is not just buying the axle and putting it in. Most if not all I have come across need brakes. If the hardware is not missing it is worn. Also, so what if you do not currently have 4.10 gears up front? Then you need to swap those out also to match the rear. As I stated in my first post (titled MJ D44 what's it worth? not 8.8 or D44?) the D44 I am getting is the same ratio I currently have, has good brakes and is a dirrect swap.
Bounty Hunter Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 Also, so what if you do not currently have 4.10 gears up front? You can find them with many other common gear ratios. D44 v. 8.8 is much more fun than something as ambigous as how much is a D44 worth :banana:
pingpong Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 Seems to me like one 1/2-ton axle's not gonna last much longer than another. If you're gonna bust a 44, do you think an 8.8 is gonna be unbreakable for ya? Well when I can find 31 spline shafts at the j-yard all day long.. It don't seem like much of a problem. Scrambelr you are right.. for you the d44 is a direct swap, and seems like the easiest option. The 8.8 is what I am running, and has proven to be a strong axle for the style of wheeling and driving that I do. As for the 8.8 not being a direct swap... it isnt far from it. brakes are easy to overcome, and there are plenty of good condition 8.8's in the j-yard, d44's are getting harder and harder to find
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