BEEDOSAUCE Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 so my motor just blew up today a little over 300k miles, I was wondering just how reliable 4.6 strikers are and if they’re worth it? or is it worth just rebuilding the motor how it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokeyyank Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I'd keep it stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 define "blew up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEEDOSAUCE Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 3 hours ago, Pete M said: define "blew up" Sorry blew up might not be the right term, but it’s been running bad, overheating tons, burning oil, and just yesterday i started getting misfires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I would address the issues one at a time before dropping change on an engine. a new block isn't going to fix an old radiator or sparkplugs or sensor that needs adjusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEEDOSAUCE Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Pete M said: I would address the issues one at a time before dropping change on an engine. a new block isn't going to fix an old radiator or sparkplugs or sensor that needs adjusting. I just serviced it not too long ago, i replaced the radiator, installed electric fans, new spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap and rotor. It was working fine until this week where everything just went downhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEEDOSAUCE Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 Just now, BEEDOSAUCE said: I just serviced it not too long ago, i replaced the radiator, installed electric fans, new spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap and rotor. It was working fine until this week where everything just went downhill ^ the truck would never overheat before either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 If I were you, I’d pull the engine, disassemble it, measure everything, and see if you could just get away with a dingleball hone, seals, and bearings. If that’s the case, I’d just do a stock rebuild. If the crank would need turned, then I’d go stroker, but that’s just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 6 hours ago, BEEDOSAUCE said: installed electric fans What fan setup did you install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75sv1 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 I'd do a compression check first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75sv1 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 As far as Stroker vs Stock. Depends on a lot of stuff. A Stocker can be built, modified or tuned to about 220 hp. There are various Stroker recipes. I have built and ran a bit a Mini-Stroker. I can't recommend that avenue. The low buck ones I see issues with that. Mainly, decking the block. I do have a Bishop-Buel assembled. $$. Presently looking at the Clegg Stage 2. About 9.3 CR. $1250 for the kit. No cam. The KB438c was changed a few years back. It has a closed combustion chamber. The main constriction is the head. A good ported head is probably worth 15hp to 20 hp. I've done 2-3. Still working on what I think would work best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEEDOSAUCE Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 19 hours ago, ghetdjc320 said: What fan setup did you install? I have a guy in mexico who does custom setups but if i’m remembering correctly the fans are malibu’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEEDOSAUCE Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 10 hours ago, 75sv1 said: As far as Stroker vs Stock. Depends on a lot of stuff. A Stocker can be built, modified or tuned to about 220 hp. There are various Stroker recipes. I have built and ran a bit a Mini-Stroker. I can't recommend that avenue. The low buck ones I see issues with that. Mainly, decking the block. I do have a Bishop-Buel assembled. $$. Presently looking at the Clegg Stage 2. About 9.3 CR. $1250 for the kit. No cam. The KB438c was changed a few years back. It has a closed combustion chamber. The main constriction is the head. A good ported head is probably worth 15hp to 20 hp. I've done 2-3. Still working on what I think would work best. have they been reliable so far? honestly i don’t want smth crazy just a little more power yknow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokeyyank Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, BEEDOSAUCE said: have they been reliable so far? honestly i don’t want smth crazy just a little more power yknow Stock refresh and a regear. More umph and reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 check compression first. maybe a leakdown too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 If you have all electric fans, check your voltage with the engine running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepSchmidt O'Guinness Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Didn't see it suggested yet, make sure ya have all the air out of the cooling system to address the overheating. But comp/leakdown test are wise to make sure the overheating haven't caused head/piston damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75sv1 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 I would add, that during the compression check, after the first measurement if low, squirt oil in the cylinder. Test again. If higher , then probably valves no sealing. As for the durability of a Stroker. I think there are a few with 100K or more and no complaints. Also, you can build them as Stock Plus. So, 9.3-9.5 static compression. 430-450 lift on the cam and stock Melling Springs. Also, with better materials and better oils than in the past, there is the possibility they will last longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golddigger Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 I have a new rebuilt 4.0 in California for you HO head fresh build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEEDOSAUCE Posted Tuesday at 10:42 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 10:42 PM On 5/23/2025 at 4:57 AM, ghetdjc320 said: If you have all electric fans, check your voltage with the engine running. could that lead to the overheating issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted Wednesday at 02:13 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:13 AM 3 hours ago, BEEDOSAUCE said: could that lead to the overheating issue? It can. The factory cooling system with the mechanical fan was sufficient when in new operating condition. Over time, coolant passages plug and cooling capacity diminishes. The mechanical fan could pull a much higher CFM than most e fans can. Converting to all e fans requires some careful planning and design changes. The aftermarket fan “upgrades” often struggle to provide adequate airflow. Then your cooling system becomes marginal. Add to that some corrosion/sludge in the coolant passages and/or an engine that has started to run lean and you have a recipe for overheating. Under hood temps in the engine bay are also difficult to manage so all these issue can compound and ruin an engine. Not saying that is what happened in your case but it does seem to be common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted Wednesday at 02:48 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:48 AM It is very typical for a clutch fan to flow more CFM than an electric fan. For me, part of my overheating issue was the water pump. 4.0s just don’t seem to like high rpms for long periods of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEEDOSAUCE Posted Thursday at 04:08 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 04:08 AM On 6/3/2025 at 7:13 PM, ghetdjc320 said: It can. The factory cooling system with the mechanical fan was sufficient when in new operating condition. Over time, coolant passages plug and cooling capacity diminishes. The mechanical fan could pull a much higher CFM than most e fans can. Converting to all e fans requires some careful planning and design changes. The aftermarket fan “upgrades” often struggle to provide adequate airflow. Then your cooling system becomes marginal. Add to that some corrosion/sludge in the coolant passages and/or an engine that has started to run lean and you have a recipe for overheating. Under hood temps in the engine bay are also difficult to manage so all these issue can compound and ruin an engine. Not saying that is what happened in your case but it does seem to be common. wow, I think that just might be my issue. I originally added electric fans because my AC guy told me it would help with pushing in more air but after having them installed that’s when the truck started overheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted Thursday at 04:59 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:59 AM 49 minutes ago, BEEDOSAUCE said: wow, I think that just might be my issue. I originally added electric fans because my AC guy told me it would help with pushing in more air but after having them installed that’s when the truck started overheating Stock electrical probably can’t supply enough amperage to keep a steady 14v to the fans when idling. The OE or similar design works best on most stock setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75sv1 Posted Thursday at 11:16 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:16 AM I do have the triple fans on my 2000 XJ. I do not note any overheating. I used the Dirt Bound fan frame and SPAL 10 inch fans. I do mainly open road, some intown. I think it cools a bit better while driving. I do have my concerns if I was to be in heavy stop and Go traffic. Also, if wheeling. The stock electric fan does flow a lot better than the SPALs. I did look into running two stock electric fans. A RH and a LH drive. Couldn't come up with a RH drive fan. From memory, SPAL 10 inch ones are 800 cfm(??? maybe lower). Stock ones are 1100 to 1200 CFM. There are some SPAL 10 inch ones that put out a higher CFM. They don't quite fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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