SuperWade2 Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 on a different note, i have never been able to comprehend how anybody can drive less than 10-12k per year, even just running to the store and back, but jeez, you'll have both of your jeeps for YEARS. fortunately, my MJ was bought for working around the house and just general "pickup truck" needs, (and to fulfill that normal manly desire to just have a truck!) but will also keep some miles down on my car and all but park it in the winter here. I live just over a mile from where I work. I have 2 small kids (2 year old Twin girls), so we take my Chevy Tahoe if we drive anywhere with them, and the Tahoe gets probably 12-15K mi/year. To get to any of the wheeling spots, it's about an hour or so (or 4-5 to get up to the Sierra's for places like the Rubicon). I just finished doing the upgrades on my TJ, but plan on trailering it to the far away wheeling place so I have room to be comfortable with the kids and all of the junk required to take them camping and stuff. So yah, the TJ is almost 9 years old, and I plan on driving it until I'm dead (I'm only 33yo)... I'm sure I will go before it does. The MJ should hopefully last just as long! Thanks for everyones help on here... I really enjoy the conversations on this site, and it already feels like a very close nit group of Comanche guys looking to help each other out how ever they can! :cheers: SW2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWade2 Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 With the Dana 44, you just might have a factory Metric Ton package. Count the leafs on the rear spring. Think you need 5 for the Metric ton package. FYI, Only 4 Leafs... means I probably don't have the M/T Package and someone just added the D44 as a stand alone option. Maybe... I requested a Build Sheet from Jeep, but not sure if they keep them all the way back to '89 Wade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I'm pretty sure you got it. I am almost positive the MT pkg was 4 leafs instead of 3 because when I followed a thread about that before. I checked mine because I'm also pretty sure I have the D44 but I DON'T have the metric ton pkg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWade2 Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 I'm pretty sure you got it. I am almost positive the MT pkg was 4 leafs instead of 3 because when I followed a thread about that before. I checked mine because I'm also pretty sure I have the D44 but I DON'T have the metric ton pkg. So 3 leafs normal W/O the Metric Ton package and 4 is with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 i'm searching my previous threads here and on jeepforum as we speak to confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 oops, i was wrong. found the thread on jeepforum i followed where Pete said it is 5 leafs. i am almost certain i have a D44, and i have factory towing pkg, but it is not metric tonne. i can't say 100% my tow pkg is factory, but this truck has frickin' everything else factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 The Metric Ton has 5 total leafs (including the overload) and normal MJs have 4 total. The Dana 44 was available with the "tow prep" package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 So Pete, factory tow prep pkg and D44 are possible w/out metric ton? If so then it appears that's what I have. When I was under there a couple of weeks ago and realized I had a 44, I was stoked to say the least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 SW2, if you haven't read this yet, some really good info in here. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135806 Pete, is there a similar sticky on this sight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 non-metric springpacks are 3 leaves plus the overload. Here's a pic of the ones under my MJ before I tore them apart and redid them: Jeff Image Not Found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWade2 Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 non-metric springpacks are 3 leaves plus the overload. Here's a pic of the ones under my MJ before I tore them apart and redid them: Jeff Ok, here is a newbie ? (from a guy whose never owned a Jeep with Leafs), what is the "Overload"? I looked under the thing from the side and could see 4 Leafs, but don't really know what the "overload" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 the short thick leaf at the bottom of the pack :cheers: I changed the pic with a better one, so you can see what they are.... Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWade2 Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Here is what's under mine now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroader461 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 yea u have the same set-up i do...3 leaves then the overload...that is a factory D44 just w/ the tow-prep...mines the same way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWade2 Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 I guess Jeep still has some build/spec sheets that can provide info on older vehicles... here is what they sent on my '89 Pioneer...So D44 option, but no Metric Ton Package Monotone Paint Nickel Metal Hydride Battery Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes 10x2.5 Rear Drum Brakes Straight Back Bench Seat Carpets - Floor and Cargo Area Passenger Assist Handles Mini Floor Console All Manual Transmissions 5-Speed Manual Transmission Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System Dana M30/181MM Front Axle 3.07 Axle Ratio Dana 44/226MM Rear Axle Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle All Engines Tinted Glass Windows Tinted Windshield Glass Front Door Tinted Glass Fixed Door Vent Glass Rear View Day/Night Mirror Left Painted Mirror Driver Mirror Heater w/Instrument Pnl Ventilation Instrument Panel Analog Instrument Cluster 85 MPH Primary Speedometer Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers Cigar Lighter Inst Panel Mounted Hood Release Key in Ign/Seat Belt Warning Buzzer Shift Indicator Warning Lamp Glove Box Lamp Halogen Headlamps Black Front Bumper Black Front Bumper Front License Plate Bracket Body Color Headlamp Bezels Black Windshield Moldings Upper Door Frame Moldings Belt Moldings Body Color Drip Trough Molding California Emissions EVAP Control System Catalytic Converter 18.5 Gallon Fuel Tank All Radio Equipped Vehicles AM/FM Cassette Radio 4 Speakers Power Rack and Pinion Steering 2-Spoke Soft Feel Steering Wheel Standard Duty Shock Absorbers Rear Shock Absorbers Tilt Steering Column All Tires Full Size Spare Tire Tire Carrier Winch P205/75R15 BSW All Season Tires 15X7.0 Styled Steel Wheels Pickup Box -35F Protection Anti-Freeze Build To U S Market Specifications 5 Additional Gallons of Gas Rear Spring Group I GVW/Payload Rating Left Front Group XIV Right Front Spring Group XIII U.S. Dealer Retail Zone 73-San Francisco American Coin Merchandising Largo Tracking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Wade, so which of the build sheet/vin decoder sites did you submit for this build sheet? It looks more accurate than the one several of us have gotten from jeep/chrysler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWade2 Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 Wade, so which of the build sheet/vin decoder sites did you submit for this build sheet? It looks more accurate than the one several of us have gotten from jeep/chrysler. Was direct to Jeep/Chrysler... Lemme find the link (I think it was on this site, but maybe over on JeepForum). BRB... **EDIT** http://www.jeep.com/wccsapp/universal/J ... category=U I had to tell them that I was the new registered owner before they would send the info, but wasn't a big deal and only took a couple days (I think I submitted request on Sunday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 interesting. that is where i submitted to and my build sheet was about 75% accurate, although i did find out i have a 3.7L V6 HYBRID w/5spd auto! on the thread where i did that most of the other guys got the same mixed with newer vins. i know chrysler re-uses old vins, maybe pre-89 will not pull a correct sheet or maybe your vin just never got re-used. i might re-submit and see if i get something different, and also try the other decoder links posted on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatslug87 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I sent my request through that same site about three weeks ago for my '88 and was told they didn't have records for vehicles that old. Is '89 the cut-off point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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