WahooSteeler Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 What axles were available on the YJ? I'm assuming D35 was stock during its production? Optional axles available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 could be wrong but I don't remember it getting anything but the 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) You know. I have never looked at YJ parts. Lets go see. Pete is probably right on this one. Catalog shows there to be a D44, comes with a ratio of 3.54 as the only option. But if one is found with a D44 I am curious to know if it is a non U.S. thing to have them or not. Edited March 13, 2020 by eaglescout526 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 YJ in the US only came with the d35 which was a non c-clip axle with 10” drums from 87-89 then went to the regular c-clip style in 90 as far as I know. Export versions had d44 options as well it seems, but they weren’t too common. If you want a nice d44 for a swap I’d grab a rodeo/passport axle. I’ve done several write ups on them and can help you out if you want to go that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 A ford 8.8 would be more common in your area. Cheaper and easier to convert....and the wheel bolt pattern is a match. One correction on the post above....it would be Import versions.....if you are Talking about a YJ in the US.....if they were built here I have a 92 and a 93 both came with D35's (one is stock the other a 8.8) I have never personally seen a Stock YJ 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Thanks for the feedback everyone. The reason I was asking, I plan to regear to 4.10s at some point but not in a huge hurry. Regardless of when, I regularly look on FB marketplace and craigslist for axles that already have 4.10s and if I find any that seem like an exceptional deal I'd be willing to grab them for when the day comes I need them. I believe you can save a lot more money when you don't "have to have" something than when emotion or urgency of need are a factor. Anyhoo, a set of YJ axles w/4.10s popped up the other day on FB, not much info and my message to the seller has not been returned yet. I have a D44 already in my truck and got a great deal on a Detroit Locker recently so I'll likely just get the existing axle regeared when I'm ready. But the D30 will need a different carrier along with the new gears and a shop to do the work which will add up to a hefty price. I don't plan on locking the front so based on what I've learned on here swapping in another D30 w/4.10s could be substantially more economical than regearing etc. I understand condition of the donor will be important etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 15 hours ago, ghetdjc320 said: YJ in the US only came with the d35 which was a non c-clip axle with 10” drums from 87-89 then went to the regular c-clip style in 90. Export versions including Canada had d44 options but they weren’t too common. If you want a nice d44 for a swap I’d grab a rodeo/passport axle. I’ve done several write ups on them and can help you out if you want to go that route. I have seen zero evidence that Canadian versions could have the D44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, DirtyComanche said: I have seen zero evidence that Canadian versions could have the D44. As I said, they weren’t too common. I ran across a couple in Mexico that had them. Otherwise it’s just been pictures of YJs or previous owner experience. I don’t have it in front of me now but the parts list for early YJs list it as an option for export models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Here is a bit of documentation (scroll down to the 44 section) I might have more https://jeep.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Jeep_axles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 You can Buy Parts for them https://www.quadratec.com/jeep-replacement-parts/wrangler-yj/yj-dana-44-rear.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 As for the 8.8 swap vs a rodeo/passport d44. It would be good to keep in mind that most all of them (Rodeo/passport d44s) came with 4.10 - 4.88 ratios. If you find the right axle, it will be the same width, have disk brakes, could even have the correct gear ratio along with a limited slip. Perches, shock tabs and wheel adapters are much easier than regearing. Plus, the axle itself will likely be much cheaper. It’s a lot leaner of an axle too while still being plenty strong. I wheeled the snot out of one on my built YJ with a stroker all through Moab and trails in Arkansas and Texas. Never once did the rodeo d44 let me down. And I had better ground clearance and less unsprung weight than any of the 8.8 anchors sitting under other rigs running the same 35’s. Yes, I’m venting a bit... been couped up in the house for almost a week fighting of this stupid sickness. My disdain for the 8.8 is coming out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, ghetdjc320 said: As I said, they weren’t too common. I ran across a couple in Mexico that had them. Otherwise it’s just been pictures of YJs or previous owner experience. I don’t have it in front of me now but the parts list for early YJs list it as an option for export models. Canada is NOT an export market in the eyes of AMC, Chrysler, FCA, etc. I know there is people claiming that it was possible, but it's based on the same flawed idea that Canada was an export market and thus could order options that were not available in the US. You couldn't, and the only difference between the models was the gauge clusters and some mandatory features depending on year. As to the Isuzu rear, how do you deal with it being 6 lug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 YJs were built in Canada for a few years then (I believe in 92) they went back to US made. Whatever you want to call them (domestic/import depending on where you live), the fact remains that some YJs that were not in the US had d44s not sure of which ones. I can only speak to the ones I have seen. As for a rodeo/passport d44, use wheel adapters/re-drill to 5 on 4.5/use 6 on 5.5 up front/get a waggy front end/ there are plenty of ways to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 minute ago, ghetdjc320 said: YJs were built in Canada for a few years then (I believe in 92) they went back to US made. Whatever you want to call them (domestic/import depending on where you live), the fact remains that some YJs that were not in the US had d44s not sure of which ones. I can only speak to the ones I have seen. As for a rodeo/passport d44, use wheel adapters/re-drill to 5 on 4.5/use 6 on 5.5 up front/get a waggy front end/ there are plenty of ways to do this. My point, it isn't an export market. They built all sorts of different Jeeps here (along with every other brand of vehicle) and normally they're 99% the same as the US versions since they will supply either country from the same plant. We don't get anything special. So stop spreading the lie that you could get them in Canada. The Wagoneer D44 front is the biggest waste of time ever, and that's coming from somebody that actually swapped one in. And the complicated 5x4.5 to 6x5.5 (or vice versa) adapters are a horrible compromise as well. I'll expand on either point if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, DirtyComanche said: My point, it isn't an export market. They built all sorts of different Jeeps here (along with every other brand of vehicle) and normally they're 99% the same as the US versions since they will supply either country from the same plant. We don't get anything special. So stop spreading the lie that you could get them in Canada. The Wagoneer D44 front is the biggest waste of time ever, and that's coming from somebody that actually swapped one in. And the complicated 5x4.5 to 6x5.5 (or vice versa) adapters are a horrible compromise as well. I'll expand on either point if you want. I’ve swapped in a couple of waggy axles as well and there are a few gains to be had and some drawbacks. Actual spindles with locking hubs are nice to have and the larger brakes are a bonus. Wheel adapters are used all the time to adapt jk/jl wheels onto YJ/xj/mj/tj/ZJ. It wouldn’t be my first choice but I have run them in the past with good success. The old Reid racing knuckles for the d44/d30 were a nice setup also and would let you run bigger lug patterns. Obviously this topic has gotten out of hand and the OP just wanted to know what options were available in a YJ. I’d say that it is possible he may find one with a original d44 but most will have a d35. I edited my post to exclude “Canada” to avoid further contention. And I apologize for any offense I may have caused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetdjc320 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Here is the parts listing from Spicer. Here is the website for reference: http://www.canadawideparts.com/downloads/catalogs/danaspicer_1978-1998models_X510-9.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Jump to 7:20 He drives the S--t out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxmj Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 21 hours ago, WahooSteeler said: Thanks for the feedback everyone. The reason I was asking, I plan to regear to 4.10s at some point but not in a huge hurry. Regardless of when, I regularly look on FB marketplace and craigslist for axles that already have 4.10s and if I find any that seem like an exceptional deal I'd be willing to grab them for when the day comes I need them. I believe you can save a lot more money when you don't "have to have" something than when emotion or urgency of need are a factor. Anyhoo, a set of YJ axles w/4.10s popped up the other day on FB, not much info and my message to the seller has not been returned yet. I have a D44 already in my truck and got a great deal on a Detroit Locker recently so I'll likely just get the existing axle regeared when I'm ready. But the D30 will need a different carrier along with the new gears and a shop to do the work which will add up to a hefty price. I don't plan on locking the front so based on what I've learned on here swapping in another D30 w/4.10s could be substantially more economical than regearing etc. I understand condition of the donor will be important etc. I do not have a clue what the post above has to do with your question ........but 1) Keep in mind that a D30 from a YJ will be spring under and will need to be drastically altered to fit your MJ (if that is my understanding of what you want to do) 2) If it has 4.10 gears then it came from a 2.5 truck and finding a 44 behind a 2.5 from the factory would be rare in any jeep not just a YJ (no matter were it was built) 3) All YJ D30's are CAD (not that there is anything wrong with it.....I like the extra strength built into the housing because of it) IMHO your best bet is to keep on the same search everyone is on.....look for a 4x4 XJ or MJ that came stock with a 2.5......easy peasy ......direct bolt it.....and they are out there. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEmptyEveryPocket Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 car-part.com Why not just find exactly what you want? Freight shipping was really straight forward from what I recall and total cost for me was ~$300. For a bolt in axle already set up with 4.10 gearing, why not go this route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahooSteeler Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, JustEmptyEveryPocket said: car-part.com Why not just find exactly what you want? Freight shipping was really straight forward from what I recall and total cost for me was ~$300. For a bolt in axle already set up with 4.10 gearing, why not go this route? I've used car-part for some stuff before, not sure if i want to drop that coin on a yard turd that could be damaged. No guarantee buying locally used either but I'd rather look a guy in the eye and talk about what he's selling me than trust a JY a few hundred miles away that I'm getting what I'm paying for. That said, I have looked on there before for this and I wouldn't totally rule out this option. Plus there's no thrill in the hunt on car-part LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, yxmj said: I do not have a clue what the post above has to do with your question ........but I assume you are referring to my post? For your entertainment. 19 hours ago, DirtyComanche said: The Wagoneer D44 front is the biggest waste of time ever, My post? For the thinking man. As for wheel adapters, vid............sourced D44 from Wagoneer, sourced D60 from ambulance..IIRC........same bolt pattern, apparently. Same width, apparently. And he drives the holy F out of it, no failures. You Canadians are a real PITA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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