schardein Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I'd heard of this, but never seen one. I pulled this instrument cluster from a super clean 1985 XJ Wagoneer (2.8 V6 and manual trans... yes manual... with cruise control). I have always thought all Renix clusters are blue and all HO clusters are white. This is the exception to the rule, although I guess technically this is a pre Renix cluster. I suspect it would still work on an 86 MJ though. The XJ was one of those super clean rigs that almost makes you sorry to start taking parts off it. Almost. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 Pics of the rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 If you go back I'll buy the grille off of you and pay you for your time too . And the Marchals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 That keep us so beautiful still! Love that colorSent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 That XJ has no business in a scrap yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugalo Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 i would like to buy the front seats................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff J Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Interested in selling the plugs you cut from the harness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, Strokermjcomanche said: If you go back I'll buy the grille off of you and pay you for your time too . And the Marchals I have the grill, but it's not for sale. The lights were decent but I didn't grab them. If I remember right, the reflectors were rusted at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, krustyballer16 said: That keep us so beautiful still! Love that color Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk I had a 78 Chevy Scottsdale and still have my 79 Blazer, both with the camel interior. My favorite interior color by far, although the maroon in my 91 MJ has grown on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, tugalo said: i would like to buy the front seats................. I know right? I don't have them. This Jeep is 4 hours from me, and I won't be heading that way until the weather gets better. And they are likely gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jeff J said: Interested in selling the plugs you cut from the harness? Plugs aren't for sale separately, but the cluster is. I will post separately. I wanted to put this in tech to capture that pre-renix "white" clusters do exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff J Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 No problem. I've got one set coming now. I wonder since they changed the speedometer attachment in 87. Were the clusters white in 85 and 86 then blue 87, 88, 89 and 90? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/17/2019 at 12:19 PM, Jeff J said: No problem. I've got one set coming now. I wonder since they changed the speedometer attachment in 87. Were the clusters white in 85 and 86 then blue 87, 88, 89 and 90? I've pulled an 86 cluster from an MJ, and it was blue. See pics. That cluster went to a CC member, but I do not remember who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff J Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Interesting, that shoots my theory down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Who the hell scraps something like that? If I would've known, I'd have asked you to grab the radio out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, schardein said: I have the grill, but it's not for sale. The lights were decent but I didn't grab them. If I remember right, the reflectors were rusted at the bottom. At least you didn't leave it behind , that's really all I care about . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Mesa XJ Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 A shame it was scrapped. Honestly it’s s cleaner Jeep than my 85 wagoners when I bought it 20+ years ago. And I know there were cowboys jacking up the repairs and trying their hand at wire splicing.The 84-85 wagoners are the two headlight models, after that it’s four. Also got those xj have s weird headlight harness plug that runs under the battery , 84-85 only and a PITA to find. as is the dash harness and engine, those it looks like a old amc bulk head connector, where the 86-90 have a renex style plug and 91-95 have the HO style bulk head. I’m sure there are some one off 84-85 wagoners, being they dying days of amc they used whatever they could supply. my 85 has always been such a pain to find electrical harness, so much so now it’s sporting a 88 dash harness and 86 engine harness, with a 94(? I think) headlight harness.The early amc clusters with tach are another one off, the printed circuit and cluster is different early 87 on, my problem down in the south was finding one with the printed circuit not peeling apart. A great old time Jeep parts guy gave his time freely to look up the old 84-85-86 xj parts catalogue this was 1998-2000s. Back then the printed circuit for the 85 clusters was NA. I bought the last printed circuit available for the next design which turned out to be the 1987 cluster. We didn’t know how close they would be based on what was available in the catalogues. That place was a great family owned Jeep dealer with a good crew, parts, sales, tech, all seemed to give a damn. Too bad they were one of the dealerships forced to close when the government stepped it.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Minuit said: Who the hell scraps something like that? If I would've known, I'd have asked you to grab the radio out of it. Well darn. I didn't realize it was worth grabbing or I would have. It was 18 degrees and already late in the day when I stumbled across it. Had it been earlier in the day, I might have reached out on here to see what people needed/wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 It always shocks me that things like this end up in a wrecking yard. That poor Waggy is in better shape than literally everything I own. Hopefully it's parts go to good use at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just look at that carpet. The carpet on my '91 isn't that clean and it's two years old. It must have had a loving owner to look that nice after 34 years and 164,000 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schardein Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Minuit said: Just look at that carpet. The carpet on my '91 isn't that clean and it's two years old. It must have had a loving owner to look that nice after 34 years and 164,000 miles. There is no doubt that someone took very, very good care of it. You hit the nail on the head, how can the interior look that good at 164,000 miles? I do think though that the carpet had been touched up with paint or dye. Possibly some of the other parts as well, but very well done. That steering wheel... the plastic horn button looked NOS, like a mirror. Not a single smudge or scratch on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/17/2019 at 12:39 PM, schardein said: I'd heard of this, but never seen one. I pulled this instrument cluster from a super clean 1985 XJ Wagoneer (2.8 V6 and manual trans... yes manual... with cruise control). I have always thought all Renix clusters are blue and all HO clusters are white. This is the exception to the rule, although I guess technically this is a pre Renix cluster. I suspect it would still work on an 86 MJ though. The XJ was one of those super clean rigs that almost makes you sorry to start taking parts off it. Almost. . This is what the parts manuals refer to as a "Type 1" cluster. I much prefer it to the cluster that came in my '88 XJ. It should work in any 6-cylinder XJ or MJ through 1990. However, the Type 1 clusters can't be adjusted for 4-cylinder / 6-cylinder operation. The Type 2 tachometer has a potentiometer that can be used to calibrate it to 4 or 6 cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastguy1955 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 So to continue this thread , If Quote This is what the parts manuals refer to as a "Type 1" cluster. I much prefer it to the cluster that came in my '88 XJ. It should work in any 6-cylinder XJ or MJ through 1990. However, the Type 1 clusters can't be adjusted for 4-cylinder / 6-cylinder operation. The Type 2 tachometer has a potentiometer that can be used to calibrate it to 4 or 6 cylinders. If that's the case , how would you adjust the tach to compensate for a 4cyl operation? I can't imagine they would have two different clusters for each configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Fastguy1955 said: So to continue this thread , If If that's the case , how would you adjust the tach to compensate for a 4cyl operation? I can't imagine they would have two different clusters for each configuration. You can't adjust it. That's the problem. If you have a 6-cylinder engine you have to use a cluster that came from a 6-cylinder donor vehicle. They did have two different tachometers. The 4-cylinder tachometer was part number 8350-0308. The 6-cylinder tachometer was 8350 0309. Long story" Somewhere in the circuit there's a resistor. Someone who knows what it is and where it is, and who is skilled at doing printed circuit soldering, could replace the resister with one of a different value to change the tach from 4 to 6 cylinders, or from 6 to 4 cylinders. For 97.3 percent of us, that translates to "It's not adjustable." The speedometer also uses a different cable connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Eagle is correct as usual. The later models have a trimmer potentiometer that works as the adjustment. If you can figure out the value and circuit position of this trimmer, no reason you couldn't do some "customization" of the tachometer and add it yourself. Sure you'd have to calibrate it, but no reason it wouldn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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