GeorgiaJeeper93 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 So I found this rear bumper online and I really like it. Only issue is that it says it only fits 87+ MJs. Is there a difference in the 86s? http://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Bumpers-Jeep-Tire-Carriers/Rear-Bumper.aspx?t_c=64&t_s=26&t_pt=3486&t_pn=WES63000&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping&emlprox=out&ppcfon=1&gp=1&gclid=CInI86b4wMgCFdgagQodVcgFdA#questions_Container Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyinajeep726 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 No. This is a universal fit bumper. It will work on the '86. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 If it fits an 87, it'll fit an 86. But there is a difference, it just doesn't matter here. In '86, there were no short beds, they weren't introduced until '87. Originally, the bumper brackets sat completely flat against the frame, as they would do on any long bed MJ from any year. On the short beds, the rear spring shackle hanger is much closer to the end of the frame, to the point where the bumper bracket needs a bulge in it to clear it. '86's and some earlier long beds got the flat brackets until stock ran out, but they stopped making the flat brackets and both short and long beds started getting the clearanced brackets. But that doesn't really affect you. If it fits an 87+ short bed, it'll fit an '86 or any other year long bed, it's just not guaranteed to go the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyinajeep726 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 If it fits an 87, it'll fit an 86. But there is a difference, it just doesn't matter here. In '86, there were no short beds, they weren't introduced until '87. Originally, the bumper brackets sat completely flat against the frame, as they would do on any long bed MJ from any year. On the short beds, the rear spring shackle hanger is much closer to the end of the frame, to the point where the bumper bracket needs a bulge in it to clear it. '86's and some earlier long beds got the flat brackets until stock ran out, but they stopped making the flat brackets and both short and long beds started getting the clearanced brackets. But that doesn't really affect you. If it fits an 87+ short bed, it'll fit an '86 or any other year long bed, it's just not guaranteed to go the other way. EXCELLENT INFORMATION! :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 It's a Westin (Fey) universal, as previously noted. Remember that it also needs the Westin (Fey) mounting brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheKid45 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 It's a Westin (Fey) universal, as previously noted. Remember that it also needs the Westin (Fey) mounting brackets. No necessarily, I have an FEY bumper mounted with OEM MJ Brackets on my Dads 89 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 It's a Westin (Fey) universal, as previously noted. Remember that it also needs the Westin (Fey) mounting brackets. No necessarily, I have an FEY bumper mounted with OEM MJ Brackets on my Dads 89 ;) Did you weld it on? Doesn't look to me like the factory brackets will mate up with the Few bumper. (I have three of them.) That said, there were two different patterns for the factory rear bumper brackets, and I've only seen one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 It's a Westin (Fey) universal, as previously noted. Remember that it also needs the Westin (Fey) mounting brackets. No necessarily, I have an FEY bumper mounted with OEM MJ Brackets on my Dads 89 ;) Did you weld it on? Doesn't look to me like the factory brackets will mate up with the Few bumper. (I have three of them.) That said, there were two different patterns for the factory rear bumper brackets, and I've only seen one of them. did anyone ever figure this out? I want to get an FEY bumper but don't want to spend the 50$+ for the brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 The two styles of factory bumper brackets are effectively the same. One just has a bulge to accommodate the rear spring hanger on a short bed. The bolt holes are identical. Will the Fey bumper mount to them? That I can't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Fey / Westin brackets: Image Not Found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheKid45 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Wow, I've missed the activity in this topic. Anyway I mounted it on a lwb truck, stock brackets and fey step bumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Wow, I've missed the activity in this topic. Anyway I mounted it on a lwb truck, stock brackets and fey step bumper. did it mount up easily or require some persuasion? Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheKid45 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 It's been a few years now but I remember just bolting it on essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaJeeper93 Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Could someone please post the parts number for the brackets I will need to mount it to my 86? I've read I may not need one, but I'd rather get one to play it safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Fey / Westin p/n 97900. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fey-97900/overview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaJeeper93 Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Fey / Westin p/n 97900. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fey-97900/overview/ Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY-J24 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 My 86 came with a rear bumper mounted like this. Is this normal/stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 It should mount to the side like this .. Original bumper and brackets .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 There should be one bolt going into the bottom, four in the side. Can you post a pic of the whole bumper? Doesn't look stock, especially not with a sticker like that, if it reflects actual load ratings on the bumper hitch. Those aren't the Fey numbers, either, so I'm wondering what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY-J24 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 It was barn kept 36k by an old guy. I doubt it was changed. It's an 86 so maybe the first year and a different mount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gogmorgo Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Looks a lot like the Fey. Maybe they were different back then? It was fairly common back in the day for trucks to ship without rear bumpers, as they weren't required. Lots of dealers or the first owner would either add a custom or aftermarket bumper as a cheaper alternative to the factory bumper, or else just leave it off. The Fey bumpers are pretty common. I've also seen a few dealer-installed tube bumpers. So yours could be the "original" bumper to the truck, but still not be a factory bumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Looks a lot like the Fey. Maybe they were different back then? It was fairly common back in the day for trucks to ship without rear bumpers, as they weren't required. Lots of dealers or the first owner would either add a custom or aftermarket bumper as a cheaper alternative to the factory bumper, or else just leave it off. The Fey bumpers are pretty common. I've also seen a few dealer-installed tube bumpers. So yours could be the "original" bumper to the truck, but still not be a factory bumper. This is correct. But in the early 90s, the pickup truck manufacturers were mandated to supply bumpers with all the trucks they sold. As a result manufacturers of aftermarket bumpers lost a lot of their sales and went belly-up. Hercules Automotive, the original manufacturer of your bumper, went out of business and was acquired by Westin who continued most of their products with their name on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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