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what rubbing occurs will depend on the exact tire you have (they vary in size) and which rims you have.  some guys have had minor rubbing, but I had no contact at all with 30" BFG ATs and the stock aluminum rims (15x7)

 

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The tires are Michelin LTX  M&S . Bought them on CL for $80 with 70% tread ( used on on a Wrangler ) .   Plan to mount them on stock Jeep alloys (15x7 ) . Considering new or upgraded front springs as I'm sure after 23 years there's bound to be a sagging factor . .......Hey Pete , your photo must go back a few years ? .....I think this may give me the inspiration to attend to getting the front suspention up to par ( long over-due ) :cheers:

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http://www.dakota-truck.net/tirecalc/tirecalc.html

 

A 30 x 9.5 x 15 is equivalent to a 241/79R15 (I know this tire size doesn't exist).

 

I'd say you'd probably rub the flares, especially under load or at full turns.  Consider some 1-1.5 inch spacers and shackles and you should be good.

 

A 30x9.50 is almost the same size as a 235/75-15. A 235/75-15 is 28.9" diameter (that's one brand -- call it 29") and 9.3" in cross-section width. A 30x9.50-15 is 29.5" diameter and 9.5" in cross-section width.

 

A 30x9.50 will not touch the flares if run on stock Jeep 15" rims. As commented above, there may (or may not) be slight rubbing of the tire shoulder on the lower control arms. If so -- either shim the steering stop, ir just live with it. A lift will NOT cure this.

 

However, if you use 1-1/2" spacers, then you WILL rub the flares.

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:agree:

 

On my xj I have run both Canyons and now Ravines, both are 15x8, with different brands of 30/9.50s, with no problems, and that is with the stock, probably sagged 1989 springs.

On the mj I am currently running 265/75/16 Nittos, on 16x7  Icons,  MUCH taller than the 215/15 that came new on it, I did adjust the steering stops slightly but am currently at stock height, with only the occasional slight rub,  tho to do serious offroading it would need to go up a little in front.

The other day I took 2400 lb of busted up concrete to the dump, nooo problemo.

Aftermarket wheels with different offset from factory will definitely rub on the flares.

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http://www.dakota-truck.net/tirecalc/tirecalc.html

 

A 30 x 9.5 x 15 is equivalent to a 241/79R15 (I know this tire size doesn't exist).

 

I'd say you'd probably rub the flares, especially under load or at full turns.  Consider some 1-1.5 inch spacers and shackles and you should be good.

 

A 30x9.50 is almost the same size as a 235/75-15. A 235/75-15 is 28.9" diameter (that's one brand -- call it 29") and 9.3" in cross-section width. A 30x9.50-15 is 29.5" diameter and 9.5" in cross-section width.

 

A 30x9.50 will not touch the flares if run on stock Jeep 15" rims. As commented above, there may (or may not) be slight rubbing of the tire shoulder on the lower control arms. If so -- either shim the steering stop, ir just live with it. A lift will NOT cure this.

 

However, if you use 1-1/2" spacers, then you WILL rub the flares.

I should have specified coil spacers, not wheel spacers.  I was not aware of the control arm rubbing issues.

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Hey guys , you always come through with great info  :cheers:  I'm going to go ahead with the Michelins on stock Jeep alloys  for now , as I've already adjusted the steering stops previously when I went to the Nokian 235/75 r15 's about 5 years ago . The front suspension project can wait a while ( that sigh you heard , was my wallet flinching every time I mention "project" ) .Most of my driving is commuting 'bout 80 km ( 50 miles) a day and 3-4 trips up country to the B.C. cariboo ( mountain ranch country ) on Forestry roads which are challenging but hardly hard -core off roading . The old girl has served me well for a lot of years ......she's a keeper and I'm a Jeeper . :D

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that photo is from around 97 when I first bought her. 2wd at the time.

I remember reading in a book somewhere about your build. I can't believe that's what it once looked like. I didn't even know what the hell a Comanche was outside of Piper before my brother showed me that. My brother and your build gave me inspiration and look where I am now: a 25 year old truck in my driveway and no money, haha. Best investment of my life. 

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glad I could help spread the disease. :D  I caught it from a guy named Rob Bryce and his Black and Tan build. 

 

you should have seen her when I bought her.  sporting tiny 195 size tires, a hideous aluminum cap and those awful gold stripes running down her sides.  fast as the dickens though. :D don't have any pre-mods photos of her unfortunately. 

 

 

you're referring to The XJ Builders Guide. :D  I still find it hard to believe my baby's in a book! :eek:

 

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glad I could help spread the disease. :D  I caught it from a guy named Rob Bryce and his Black and Tan build. 

 

you should have seen her when I bought her.  sporting tiny 195 size tires, a hideous aluminum cap and those awful gold stripes running down her sides.  fast as the dickens though. :D don't have any pre-mods photos of her unfortunately. 

 

 

you're referring to The XJ Builders Guide. :D  I still find it hard to believe my baby's in a book! :eek:

 

Yep, that's it. My brothers got a modded XJ, I don't have any pictures of it unfortunately. Your comanche in that book is the highlight. You flip through the pages of XJs and WHAM. What the hell... is that an XJ with a bed? I want me one of them! haha. I've had several people come up to me and ask what the MJ was, and if I modded an XJ with a pickup bed. 

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30's are on !  All's good , much more comfortable & quiet too  :thumbsup:   Now to replace the speedo gear ( there's got to be a link to get the correct size ) to get a true reading  :???:

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Here's a good start: http://www.transmissioncenter.net/speedometer_calibration_______va.htm?gclid=CMHQv8KD27YCFeo7OgodsQsAIQ

It lists axle ratios and tire sizes, gets pretty in depth. I have 30 inch tires as well, but I just compensate on the speedometer. when it reads 45, it's really 51. When it's 55, it's really 62. 35 is about 38, the lower the speed, the closer to accuracy the speedometer is.

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Here's a good start: http://www.transmissioncenter.net/speedometer_calibration_______va.htm?gclid=CMHQv8KD27YCFeo7OgodsQsAIQ

It lists axle ratios and tire sizes, gets pretty in depth. I have 30 inch tires as well, but I just compensate on the speedometer. when it reads 45, it's really 51. When it's 55, it's really 62. 35 is about 38, the lower the speed, the closer to accuracy the speedometer is.

WHOOPS so I have been speeding like crazy for 2 years. I always do exactly 35, 45, 55, means I am ALWAYS speeding. Havent got a ticket for that yet though.

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I bought my MJ with BF Goodrich All-Terrain 30's on it.  I haven't had any rubbing issues.  Good info on the speedo conversion link.  I knew it felt like I was going faster than it was reading but didn't know what the factory tire size was.

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I do so much swapping around that I quit worrying about speedo gear. When ever I change something I just hold it at 60mph and time the distance between the a couple mile markers. Then I just make mental adjustments. Close enough for government work, and radar guns.

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30" tires are about 6 percent larger than stock, so whatever the speedometer says -- you're going about 6 percent faster.

 

31" tires are 11 percent larger than stock, so whatever the speedometer says you're going 11 percent faster.

 

That's if you haven't changed either the speedo drive gear or the axle gears, of course.

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As I've posted numerous times before, I am running 31x10.50s on factory alloys on my '88 Cherokee at factory height ... and the Cherokee has a smaller rear wheel opening than the MJ. 30s are not a problem.

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