HOrnbrod Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Good Lord, I thought this would never happen. The Navy's last bastion has been breached. So glad I'm retired............ http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/12/06/navy-pins-1st-nuclear-qualified-female-submariners.html?ESRC=navy.nl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody4359 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 with that mentality, "just looking for a few good men" you should move over here to WA. we just legalized ghey marriage :teehee: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 xcause they really have room on a submarine to store things like tampons. congrats to the women, of course...but i wouldnt want to be stuck on a submarine with one at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64 Cheyenne Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I aint putting my Gloria cap on, but over the years working in the construction field I have come across a few women who could hold there own against many men. Besides their differences in plumbing, many of them were way more dedicated reliable and a lot better employees than some of the men. Something about bearing children that men will never understand. Myself, being mom and dad for my daughter, I sympathize with them. Granted a submariner has always been a traditionally male role but look at where we are at as far as humanity, and technological advances, we have the best war machines in the world, I'm pretty sure that a woman call pull the trigger same as a man when the time comes. To say that a submariner (woman) couldn't, wouldn't,won't does disservice to those that earned their dolphins and those crew that are on those boats who have to have trust and rely on every other qualified crew member (those that wear the dolphins) to keep them alive. Don I know you aren't saying smack (hope not anyway) just a change of times, tradition, I think women, properly trained will do just as good a job as a man if not better when the time comes. I say give them a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpnjim Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Lol, Judging from the topic name, and author, I thought this was going to be about Youk going over to the dark side. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Well, that's gotta be better than keeping sheep on board. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbyrambler Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 JOINED YEARS AGO - SHORTLY AFTER THE BOY SCOUTS GAVE IT UP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCARENA Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Well the joke about 60 men go down and 30 couples come up, just won't be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 Lol, Judging from the topic name, and author, I thought this was going to be about Youk going over to the dark side. :) That too. :fs1: I'm all for women's equality in both the military and civilian life, but not on the boats. Keep them on the tenders and other surface craft; morale is tough enough to maintain as it is. But with today's military and the way the mission has changed, it was only a matter of time before this happened. AFAIK, subs were the last to allow women to serve on them. Admiral Rickover must be rolling over in his grave.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexia Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 That too. :fs1: I'm all for women's equality in both the military and civilian life, but not on the boats. Keep them on the tenders and other surface craft; morale is tough enough to maintain as it is. But with today's military and the way the mission has changed, it was only a matter of time before this happened. AFAIK, subs were the last to allow women to serve on them. Admiral Rickover must be rolling over in his grave.......... Does not sound like you are for equality at all if you are saying they can not do something. :P Besides, a good woman can do a lot for your moral. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 Does not sound like you are for equality at all if you are saying they can not do something. Who said anything about what women can or can't do? They can probably perform their jobs better. Sooner or later when you're cooped up for 3+ months underwater like the boomer boats do, with zero privacy, sharing the same head, some asshat young sailor will try something. It happens all the time on surface craft and it'll just be escalated on a boomer. It's a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbyrambler Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Dollphins No Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64 Cheyenne Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Might be too old to sign up, but I'm definitely not too old to do that, so where do I sign up? Nice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody4359 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 sharing the same head. Ummmm.... Maybe more women are needed down there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 And hot bunking, don't forget about the hot bunking!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexia Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Who said anything about what women can or can't do? They can probably perform their jobs better. Sooner or later when you're cooped up for 3+ months underwater like the boomer boats do, with zero privacy, sharing the same head, some asshat young sailor will try something. It happens all the time on surface craft and it'll just be escalated on a boomer. It's a bad idea. Replace woman with aggressive ghey male and the same situation would occur. If they can not handle being in cramped conditions like that then they are not up to the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbyrambler Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 c'mon - All these how many angels can dance on the head of a pin sexual senarios are bogus - DH is right - It's a bad idea - Mainly because of the distraction caused - I, like most, have always behaved, but the attraction-distraction is ever present - always has been-always gonna be - From the garden of Eden til sometime later this month around th 21st - That and you gotta be half off to get on one of those things anyhow - Ditto for those that jump from airplanes - They just don't need any more distraction than what's already clouding their better judgement. 'tis a bad idea. This day and age we're living in Gives cause for apprehension With speed and new invention And things like fourth dimension. Yet we get a trifle weary With Mr. Einstein's theory. So we must get down to earth at times Relax relieve the tension And no matter what the progress Or what may yet be proved The simple facts of life are such They cannot be removed. You must remember this A kiss is just a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh. The fundamental things apply As time goes by. . . . . it's still the same old story A fight for love and glory A case of do or die. The world will always welcome lovers As time goes by. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Sad fact of the matter is, women don't want protecting. It's the times we're in. As bad as an idea it is, there's not much that can be done. The best we can do is hope that since these women have made it as far as they have, they can hold their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 Sad fact of the matter is, women don't want protecting. It's the times we're in. As bad as an idea it is, there's not much that can be done. The best we can do is hope that since these women have made it as far as they have, they can hold their own. Hoping women can handle it doesn't hack it on a sub. When you earn your dolphins, it means you can respond to any situation at any time anywhere on the boat. Danbyrambler hit it on the head stating females would be a distraction. Distractions cause mistakes. The safety record for submarines is pretty damn good mainly because every crew member knows exactly what to do in any given situation. I'm not saying females are unable to do this, but I'd prefer not to take that chance. The submarine service is purely voluntary. You can transfer out whenever you want to. And from what I'm reading, a lot of them are doing just that lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huck731 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Besides, a good woman can do a lot for your moral. ;) this is the exact reason why women should not be on subs. it isnt because of equal rights or anything. bad isht is gonna happen with that many men on board and a couple of females. the military already has a large enough issue with sexual assualt and rape. even if the woman is willing, it is still creates a non-cunducive work environment for everyone around you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW86 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 hey, they could be the same chicks that were taking on the whole football team after games, you guys don't know. it could be their dream job :rotfl2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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