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I just learned that I can offset my 2 monitors exactly at the angle that they are on my desk (the lower is my laptop, the upper is a 32" tv anchored to the wall) as opposed to simply side-by-side.  welcome to tech from 20 years ago.  :laugh: 

 

 

 

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Something I learned lately, rules against riding in a pickup camper are… lax.

Most US states allow passengers to ride in a pickup camper.

Only Arkansas, Maine, Mississippi, and New Hampshire prohibit it completely.

In Hawaii, pickup camper passengers must be over 13.

In Nevada, your pickup camper passengers can have open liquor.

Georgia requires pickup camper passengers have direct access to the driver compartment.

Montana, New Jersey, North Dakota, West Virginia, and Wisconsin allow passengers in a pickup camper or fifth-wheel trailer.

California, Oregon, Pennsylvania, and South Dakota allow passengers in a pickup camper or fifth wheel with an audio or visual connection to the driver compartment.

Arizona, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, and North Carolina are free for alls. Any camper, any trailer, anywhere. No restrictions.

Kansas will also let you ride anywhere, so long as you’re over 14.

 

Surprisingly this doesn’t really change in Canada, either.

Only BC, Alberta, and Newfoundland prohibit pickup camper passengers. Saskatchewan officially recommends against it but still allows it.

Quebec and Nova Scotia are the only jurisdictions in Canada or the USA requiring pickup camper passenger to have seatbelts.

PEI is the only free-for-all province.

 

This info came from an article (c. 2013) I stumbled onto while trying to find flat towing regs. Not all of the claims were cited, and some may be out of date eight years later, so obviously confirm your local regs before attempting. Not that I think you should attempt to ride without a seatbelt or in a trailer at all. I’ve seen what that junk looks like after a crash and it ain’t pretty… campers are clearly not designed with passenger collision protection in mind.

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4 hours ago, gogmorgo said:

Something I learned lately, rules against riding in a pickup camper are… lax.

Most US states allow passengers to ride in a pickup camper.

Only Arkansas, Maine, Mississippi, and New Hampshire prohibit it completely.

In Hawaii, pickup camper passengers must be over 13.

In Nevada, your pickup camper passengers can have open liquor.

Georgia requires pickup camper passengers have direct access to the driver compartment.

Montana, New Jersey, North Dakota, West Virginia, and Wisconsin allow passengers in a pickup camper or fifth-wheel trailer.

California, Oregon, Pennsylvania, and South Dakota allow passengers in a pickup camper or fifth wheel with an audio or visual connection to the driver compartment.

Arizona, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, and North Carolina are free for alls. Any camper, any trailer, anywhere. No restrictions.

Kansas will also let you ride anywhere, so long as you’re over 14.

 

Surprisingly this doesn’t really change in Canada, either.

Only BC, Alberta, and Newfoundland prohibit pickup camper passengers. Saskatchewan officially recommends against it but still allows it.

Quebec and Nova Scotia are the only jurisdictions in Canada or the USA requiring pickup camper passenger to have seatbelts.

PEI is the only free-for-all province.

 

This info came from an article (c. 2013) I stumbled onto while trying to find flat towing regs. Not all of the claims were cited, and some may be out of date eight years later, so obviously confirm your local regs before attempting. Not that I think you should attempt to ride without a seatbelt or in a trailer at all. I’ve seen what that junk looks like after a crash and it ain’t pretty… campers are clearly not designed with passenger collision protection in mind.

Not exactly true.

 

I can't speak for the other states.  But I can assure you, Indiana requires anyone riding in a vehicle to be in a safety restraint. 

 

I am unclear if by "truck camper", you mean a fiberglass shell topper or a full on slide in truck camper. Either way I don't belive it would be legal unless there were approved seating and safety harnesses in place.

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3 hours ago, watchamakalit said:

Not exactly true.

 

I can't speak for the other states.  But I can assure you, Indiana requires anyone riding in a vehicle to be in a safety restraint. 

 

I am unclear if by "truck camper", you mean a fiberglass shell topper or a full on slide in truck camper. Either way I don't belive it would be legal unless there were approved seating and safety harnesses in place.

I believe the article was referring to slide-in campers.

 

Here’s a slightly more recent sum-up. I couldn’t find the original I was referrencing in a two-minute search.

https://www.rvia.org/system/files/media/file/Riding in Towed RVs.pdf

Indiana (and a few others I called “free for alls”) in this one is listed as “no specific previsions” I guess meaning they couldn’t find anything that specifically address riding in the camper, but that wouldn’t mean it might not be covered under something else. It’s interesting how the two sources addressed the scenario though. 
 

As far as passenger restraints, this one could’ve been updated more recently. It was only about five years ago that my home province updated the seatbelt rules to stop allowing unsecured passengers in cargo areas so long as all seatbelts were occupied. I graduated from high school twelve years ago, but still went on some fully legal field trips in the back of my teacher’s truck. There were definitely regulations against riding in trailers.

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Just spent two days trying to figure out exactly how the navigation system works on a 2013 Ford Flex (SYNC). Seems great for getting me to the house across the street, but for long trips (one state to another) SYNC has a mind of its own. How do you deal with your vehicle navigation systems? Do you just OBEY it? Is it smarter than us? Can you custom make a high mileage trip simply?

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I've come to hate and fear the in-car nav setups. :fistshake2: the one in the Durango likes to randomly get you off the freeway, only to put you back on it immediately.  I feel like I have to babysit it way more than I should.  :dunno:  It's like they don't really want to spend much on them because they know you didn't buy the whole car for the awesome GPS software.  I prefer a standalone or phone based (like Waze) when at all possible. 

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Yeah, I’ve witnessed that ON/OFF highway stunt. Flying down the highway, being instructed to exit highway, drive through downtown small town just to be told go back on the highway. What a joke.

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I haven’t ever bothered to figure out a factory nav system. Maybe if there was one in a car I actually owned it might be worth the effort, but in the odd rental I’ve ended up in, it just didn’t seem worth the time. Usually I just use google maps on my phone. But I also will look through the route it chooses to see what it wants me to do first, and figure out at what point I actually want to turn on the nav if at all, if it’s simple enough I’ll just memorize the turns. Often I’ll just use the map as a map.

On long trips between states I don’t really see much point in using nav, unless you need to follow some twisty route that jumps from highway to highway. I just don’t see a ton of point in using navigation just to follow the one road you’re already on. 
The times I’ve found nav to be most helpful are when I’m following a highway through a city where there isn’t really a bypass, which can help to avoid some predictable traffic snarls, stay away from downtown, etc., (Calgary and Saskatoon come to mind), but at the same time I’ve been navigated around in an endless loop a couple times going through some cities where I’ve had to give up and just drive in a straight line in one direction until it figures out a completely new route instead of sending me in the same large circle back around for a redo.

 

I’ve also learned that when certain routes don’t make sense I should double check I don’t have nav set for a bicycle. You’d think it would figure out you’re not on a bike as you’re doing 70mph down the highway, but then again…

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