Jesse J Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, 89 MJ said: Yes, but I would go so far as to say any Wrangler newer than 2007 is a lifestyle vehicle. Look at the Duck Duck Jeep trend. It's dumb. yes 100% those jks are soo annoying idk what it is with 12" lifts and 30" rims on them but it has too stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Just now, Jessemj said: yes 100% those jks are soo annoying idk what it is with 12" lifts and 30" rims on them but it has too stop. Here's the part that gets me: its a brand new Jeep (with coil springs on all 4 corners) and they ride worse than my MJ and barely get better fuel mileage. My parents have a 2017 JKU. I'm not a huge fan of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Just now, 89 MJ said: Here's the part that gets me: its a brand new Jeep (with coil springs on all 4 corners) and they ride worse than my MJ and barely get better fuel mileage. My parents have a 2017 JKU. I'm not a huge fan of it. tell me about it. I don't know if a barebones truck like the mj or the toyota pickup can or will ever sell again. especially with this new generation only learning how to drive auto cars with blind spot detection and back up cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Just now, Jessemj said: tell me about it. I don't know if a barebones truck like the mj or the toyota pickup can or will ever sell again. especially with this new generation only learning how to drive auto cars with blind spot detection and back up cameras. Don't start me on autos, blind spot detection BS, or backup cameras. I can wheel my MJ around way more efficiently (forward or backwards in a paved parking lot) than my girlfriend can wheel her little Mazda POS (don't tell her I said that LOL) with an auto and a backup camera. They are crutches that do not help. If you can't back the vehicle up without a backup camera, you shouldn't be driving that vehicle. I say the same thing about trailers. These new trucks have the trailer backup assist. If you can't back it up, you shouldn't be towing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, 89 MJ said: Don't start me on autos, blind spot detection BS, or backup cameras. I can wheel my MJ around way more efficiently (forward or backwards in a paved parking lot) than my girlfriend can wheel her little Mazda POS (don't tell her I said that LOL) with an auto and a backup camera. They are crutches that do not help. If you can't back the vehicle up without a backup camera, you shouldn't be driving that vehicle. I say the same thing about trailers. These new trucks have the trailer backup assist. If you can't back it up, you shouldn't be towing it. your speaking my language man. I Think I would be way worse at driving in a car that had all that bs in it the constant beeps and warnings. It makes you think does it really make the road safer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Jessemj said: your speaking my language man. I Think I would be way worse at driving in a car that had all that bs in it the constant beeps and warnings. It makes you think does it really make the road safer? Probably, until there is a malfunction. And that is a when, not an if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse J Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, 89 MJ said: Probably, until there is a malfunction. And that is a when, not an if. yeah. its scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 as a michigan-grown dude, I can tell you that salt will kill everything eventually. it always wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-man930 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 12:03 AM, MiNi Beast said: better then the bronco imo. Uh, no. That new Bronco is HOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi Beast Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 i think that bronco is a flop. i do live under rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMO413 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 10:40 AM, derf said: I hate to think about how heavy that thing is to have enough battery power for 350 miles. I know to be a dealer and get one your required to have a 8k fork truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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